Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Group

Terril park

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yeah we need more michael hogsons like we need more abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world.

This is nasty slander and inuendo from someone who dosn't know what
they're talking about.

This on ESMB from Gottabrain who worked with him:-


Originally Posted by Gottabrain
"Well yeh, but... Michael Hobson had the infants. And the exec infants at that. Basically, the "model nursery". Though it still fell short of the sort of model nursery you'd see at - say - a University with a Child Psychology Dept that provided all sorts of learning stimulus, he still had all the execs demands and used the execs' power to get those demands met. The man had a knack for infants, he had great parental instincts. A shame he attributed his instincts to Elron, but the big beings in little bodies thing isn't a problem until they start talking or something and one expects adult reactions and decisions. As it were, he accepted they didn't have bodily controls. His nursery was immaculate, he was attentive - never left it - he was loving and caring, and yeh, he did PATROL THE HALLWAYS if anyone made any noise! That picture cracked me up.

So yeh, it might have been a different scenario if he had toddlers or an older group or the kids of regular SO parents. But those are whatifs. As it were, he was a terrific nanny and his kids managed to know one thing - that security of knowing their needs WILL be met, that they WOULD be protected, that their nanny WOULD be there the next day - a hurdle of that age that many SO kids didn't overcome and maybe never did as adults, either. His did. We don't hear from them because they are doing just fine in life.

The whatifs are still whatifs. Michael Hobson was a good nanny for his age group by any standards. Sometimes we need to acknowledge what folks did right and did well. Still - a shame he attributed his excellent parental instincts to Hubbard.

Lots of Scns do that. It's wrong source.

So this is Michael Hobson being protective again. I can't be angry at him even when he's wrong."
 

In present time

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well, that is nice of gottabrain to defend him against what was obviously yet another one of his clusterfucks in the name of being "protective". good old michael, he kept the place clean and took care of the babies. uhhh, this isnt exactly heroic. i worked at day care for years. does this make me some kind of great person? not really, it's NORMAL.
otoh, i have personally pulled roaches out of the mouth of an s.o. newborn, so good on michael for keeping the pests to a minimum.

still having a hard time seeing what this has to do with anything at all though.
 
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TG1

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Frankly, I blame Karry Campbell for this. It was a stupid move to put Michael Hobson in charge of security and then give him "kha khan" status by not allowing anyone else criticize his pathetic efforts to police the internet.

Karry, man up and take Hobson's badge and gun away from him. He's hurt people already.

Also, IPT is right. Hobson's kindness as a caregiver to young children has absolutely nothing to do with this. He is a danger to others in his current role.

TG1
 

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Frankly, I blame Karry Campbell for this. It was a stupid move to put Michael Hobson in charge of security and then give him "kha khan" status by not allowing anyone else criticize his pathetic efforts to police the internet.

Karry, man up and take Hobson's badge and gun away from him. He's hurt people already.

Also, IPT is right. Hobson's kindness as a caregiver to young children has absolutely nothing to do with this. He is a danger to others in his current role.

TG1


It's pretty normal (if one bothers to look) to find something good and commendable about virtually ANYONE. Ron talks about this in deciding who the Anti-Social Personalities are. We must be very careful, Ron advises, to look at their good qualities.

Example: There was a perfectly lovely man who selflessly entertained neighborhood kids at his own expense, putting on parties for them as "Pogo The Clown".

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He was a terrific fellow. He was often cited for his humanitarian work. Why, here he is being congratulated by President Carter's wife, Roselyn. . .

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We should all look to the good aspects of John Wayne Gacy, not that black PR entheta about him strangling, raping and burying 33 young men under his basement floor. I mean, so what, some part of his case charge wasn't handled, that doesn't mean he wasn't a theta being.
 

Terril park

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well, that is nice of gootabrain to defend him against what was obviously yet another one of this clusterfucks in the name of being "protective". good old michael, he kept the place clean and took care of the babies. uhhh, this isnt exactly heroic. i worked at day care for years. does this make me some kind of great person? not really, it's NORMAL.
otoh, i have personally pulled roaches out of the mouth of an s.o. newborn, so good on michael for keeping the pests to a minimum.

still having a hard time seeing what this has to do with anything at all though.

Yes quite normal. However you said this:-

"abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world."

Positioning him as the above.Which is far from normal.

Note that this is a public forum and this is googleable.


Board Rules

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You are to respect every other user on the board despite any personal, religious and political differences. The following will not be tolerated:
Personal insults
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I'd have to consult Emma's lawyers to see if this applies to Ex members. However such rules are applicable to civilized behaviour anywhere.

You are not measuring up to that.
 

Terril park

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Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Frankly, I blame Karry Campbell for this. It was a stupid move to put Michael Hobson in charge of security and then give him "kha khan" status by not allowing anyone else criticize his pathetic efforts to police the internet.

Karry, man up and take Hobson's badge and gun away from him. He's hurt people already.

Also, IPT is right. Hobson's kindness as a caregiver to young children has absolutely nothing to do with this. He is a danger to others in his current role.

TG1

I havn't been interested in following those websites of a fundamentalist bent.

How exactly has Mike Hobson hurt prople?
 

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I havn't been interested in following those websites of a fundamentalist bent.

How exactly has Mike Hobson hurt prople?


Great question!

It's a good thing that I just charged my e-meter, I can get an answer to that!! ML, Billy Blowdown.




L & N

HOW EXACTLY HAS MIKE HOBSON HURT PROPLE?


He hasn't! Low toned beings
said the same thing about Ron!

LFBD - DIAL WIDE FN - VVGIs - Item indicated
 

Claire Swazey

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Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

I havn't been interested in following those websites of a fundamentalist bent.

How exactly has Mike Hobson hurt prople?

I thought it was just another thread about people not liking someone (in this case Mike Hobson) til I saw In Present Time's posts the other day. IPT indicates that Mike outed him and that this has caused possible financial problems for IPT. Sneaks also accuses Blippie of being OSA.

Those are and would be the things worthy of censure. Not whether he's an Indie or that his Mom was ill or what where else he posts and with whom does he hang out.

If he outs people and does other things to harm them, then that's bad.

I got along well with Sneaks for a long time. I liked a lot of his posts that he wrote here. He was definitely a prickly pear and I even got a taste of it one day, which led me to unfriend him. Then, later, he helped me out on something and did not have to do it. That's really nice.

In past discussions I've had with him and posts he's made around the 'net, I noticed that he tends to look for reasons and come up with OSA as the answer- even when it obviously isn't the answer. I've said this before- it can be very harmful to a person's reputation to be branded as OSA. I don't like it when other exes do it and it's just as bad when Sneaks does it. Same standard for everyone.

I have no desire to delve into his past in the SO and pass judgement. This board is full of people who were in the SO and who were staff other places. And they all did what they did. They all were part of a nasty cult that was, little by little, tightening a concertina wire (clad in velvet) noose around their necks and by the time they could see that the velvet was off and the sharp metal was there, it was too late. I doubt very much that Sneaks' career on staff was any more censorious than any other exes. I think people are very angry and also very interested in the topic and they're discussing anything they happen to know or have heard about him.

I don't give a shit that he audits or works with some Indie group. And I sure as hell don't care about his Mom's past hospitalizations and present hospice care. I just think he needs to stop harming people's reputation. Of course I have no proof this happened- but I figure that In Present Time certainly would be the one to know and his word's good enough for me.
 

CO2

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Frankly, I blame Karry Campbell for this. It was a stupid move to put Michael Hobson in charge of security and then give him "kha khan" status by not allowing anyone else criticize his pathetic efforts to police the internet.

Karry, man up and take Hobson's badge and gun away from him. He's hurt people already.

Also, IPT is right. Hobson's kindness as a caregiver to young children has absolutely nothing to do with this. He is a danger to others in his current role.

TG1

Isn't it obvious?

Michael should be told that the internet is a dangerous place - filled with SPs, DBs, and evil children, who spend too much time in the basement of their mom's house.

Michael should be told, that on days ending in y, he should go outside and play with his Tonka truck and tractor. get a job at the local Baskin Robbins, and get in a summer program for children in trouble.
 

I told you I was trouble

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Posted by Claire Swazey

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Sneaks also accuses Blippie of being OSA.

In past discussions I've had with him and posts he's made around the 'net, I noticed that he tends to look for reasons and come up with OSA as the answer- even when it obviously isn't the answer. I've said this before- it can be very harmful to a person's reputation to be branded as OSA. I don't like it when other exes do it and it's just as bad when Sneaks does it. Same standard for everyone.




Lol, The Blippy (AKA Infinite) that I know and love wouldn't give a rats arse if he was 'branded' as OSA whether by Sneaks or anyone else ... and neither would I.

They're irrelevant and so is Sneaks.
 

In present time

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Yes quite normal. However you said this:-

"abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world."

Positioning him as the above.Which is far from normal.

Note that this is a public forum and this is googleable.


Board Rules

1. Treat others with respect.
You are to respect every other user on the board despite any personal, religious and political differences. The following will not be tolerated:
Personal insults
Ad hominems
Threats or promotion of violence

I'd have to consult Emma's lawyers to see if this applies to Ex members. However such rules are applicable to civilized behaviour anywhere.

You are not measuring up to that.
you're being ridiculous at this point. and btw, I challenge you to find even one instance where I mentioned this creep by name. you also included a partial quote by me out of context. knock it off.
 

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...

So, let's review, shall we?

Mike "Sneakster" Hobson is the Senior Security Investigations Officer. For a Facebook group that is saving the planet.

So, wouldn't that make him the "senior terminal" and web's de facto INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE CHIEF?

And, since we are SPs.........

Isn't Hobson, therefore, "our only terminal"? LOL

I think we're doing the standard thing by staying in com with Mike. Hi Mike, I'd like to get out of NE with you. What is needed and wanted to help you Clear the planet?
 

Vittorio

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Yes quite normal. However you said this:-

"abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world."

Positioning him as the above.Which is far from normal.

Note that this is a public forum and this is googleable.


Board Rules

1. Treat others with respect.
You are to respect every other user on the board despite any personal, religious and political differences. The following will not be tolerated:
Personal insults
Ad hominems
Threats or promotion of violence

I'd have to consult Emma's lawyers to see if this applies to Ex members. However such rules are applicable to civilized behaviour anywhere.

You are not measuring up to that.

Terril, he's not positioning Hobson with those other groups of people, he's metaphorically saying that Hobson, is about as wanted in his field as these guy's are in theirs; i.e., they're abusive and not wanted at all.

Both you and C Swaizey have this habit of taking things that people write 100% literally and have a terrible habit of DERAILING TOPICS and turning them into nit picky squabbles.
 

Vittorio

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Oh, ok. Guess I misunderstood. You'd quoted my post then said



But I can totally see where I should have just read your mind.

No need to read my mind, just read the post.

Your sarcasm speaks volumes about you.
 

In present time

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Well, i am going to indulge myself and point out that I am a female. I am even on Winstons ESMB hotties list, lol.
It's kinda flattering that I come across like a guy, I am not sure why though;)
 

In present time

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Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Frankly, I blame Karry Campbell for this. It was a stupid move to put Michael Hobson in charge of security and then give him "kha khan" status by not allowing anyone else criticize his pathetic efforts to police the internet.

Karry, man up and take Hobson's badge and gun away from him. He's hurt people already.

Also, IPT is right. Hobson's kindness as a caregiver to young children has absolutely nothing to do with this. He is a danger to others in his current role.

TG1
well, i just give up on the indies entirely. they are all alike, NO REALLY, every single one of them have a certain demeanour that makes me feel uncomfortable and like i am stupid or have overts. that can't be right, that can't all just be ME. you can almost feel their brain gears mixing reality with tech and then spitting that out at you.
 

Vittorio

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In response to Terril posting about Michael's work with children; I don't think that anyone here doubts for a moment that Michael has some good qualities. I even get the impression that many people here critical of his behaviour see him as a victim of Scientology and the information on his family background shows that there are other factors that *could* have contributed to his current state of mind.

Terril also thought he knew my identity and threatened to "out me" some time ago. I get the impression that he got the wrong person and in the process could have caused a great deal of harm. Terril and Michael are posting under their real names when many of us choose not to do so. This is problematic when discussing other ex's conduct as the people who are anonymous only have their online posting history. Those who are not anonymous have their entire lives under scrutiny.

We may post in an anonymous fashion but our writings and this board is open to everyone. The Freezone boards are not and have a policy of operating in secrecy. Terril wants more people of Hobson's ilk here? They've never been stopped from registering and posting here. Hobson could have stayed but found posts about Hubbard's history too much to bear and instead hit the FZ and indie boards to discuss our shortcomings whilst many of us are banned from speaking freely on Marty's blog and Michael Moore's group. When freedom of speech is not allowed there is going to be a whole load of leaks. I'm sure most of us couldn't care less about leaks of personal emails and other stuff which should stay private but leaks of information put into private groups about other people are of great interest and as long as there are "ethics specialists" out there seeing OSA and enemies everywhere and revealing people's identities, the leaks will keep coming thick and fast. The information age has been Scientology's worst enemy.
 

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well, i just give up on the indies entirely. they are all alike, NO REALLY, every single one of them have a certain demeanour that makes me feel uncomfortable and like i am stupid or have overts. that can't be right, that can't all just be ME. you can almost feel their brain gears mixing reality with tech and then spitting that out at you.


LOL

Scientologists have semi-permeable filters.

Only "theta" (Scientology) is allowed in.

Only "theta" (Scientology) is allowed out.

Except for confronting and handling "suppression". Then they do or say anything they can possibly think of to utterly destroy you. It's a spiritual thing. It's religious, really. It's tech! Ron told them it's okay. Yayyy!
 

Terril park

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you're being ridiculous at this point. and btw, I challenge you to find even one instance where I mentioned this creep by name. you also included a partial quote by me out of context. knock it off.


This below is your quote in full:-

"yeah we need more michael hogsons like we need more abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world."

This looks more like poor spelling rather than concern for someone's reputation,
after all the whole thread is about him with his real name.

Guess what the first hit on a google of this thread name is!
 

Vittorio

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This below is your quote in full:-

"yeah we need more michael hogsons like we need more abusive husbands, street muggers, stalkers and pychos in the world."

This looks more like poor spelling rather than concern for someone's reputation,
after all the whole thread is about him with his real name.

Guess what the first hit on a google of this thread name is!

Terril I googled Michael's name it gave a load of Michael Hobson's and nothing about Scientology. I then googled his name again putting in Scientology and this came up first http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?21633-Top-100-Stupid-Moments-in-Scientology/page352 There's a video of you there Terril.

Michael has enough posts of his own which can speak for him. He's open about being a Scientologist and openly uses some of it's more controversial techniques. This has reaped terrible PR for the Church and is doing so for him. You have every right to protect and promote the more gentle side of Michael's character, as much as we have the right to promote the less gentle side of Hubbard's character.
 
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