Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Group

[guanoloco]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

This is nasty slander and inuendo from someone who dosn't know what
they're talking about.

This on ESMB from Gottabrain who worked with him:-


Originally Posted by Gottabrain
"Well yeh, but... Michael Hobson had the infants. And the exec infants at that. Basically, the "model nursery". Though it still fell short of the sort of model nursery you'd see at - say - a University with a Child Psychology Dept that provided all sorts of learning stimulus, he still had all the execs demands and used the execs' power to get those demands met. The man had a knack for infants, he had great parental instincts. A shame he attributed his instincts to Elron, but the big beings in little bodies thing isn't a problem until they start talking or something and one expects adult reactions and decisions. As it were, he accepted they didn't have bodily controls. His nursery was immaculate, he was attentive - never left it - he was loving and caring, and yeh, he did PATROL THE HALLWAYS if anyone made any noise! That picture cracked me up.

So yeh, it might have been a different scenario if he had toddlers or an older group or the kids of regular SO parents. But those are whatifs. As it were, he was a terrific nanny and his kids managed to know one thing - that security of knowing their needs WILL be met, that they WOULD be protected, that their nanny WOULD be there the next day - a hurdle of that age that many SO kids didn't overcome and maybe never did as adults, either. His did. We don't hear from them because they are doing just fine in life.

The whatifs are still whatifs. Michael Hobson was a good nanny for his age group by any standards. Sometimes we need to acknowledge what folks did right and did well. Still - a shame he attributed his excellent parental instincts to Hubbard.

Lots of Scns do that. It's wrong source.

So this is Michael Hobson being protective again. I can't be angry at him even when he's wrong."

DOX! DOX! DOX!

...sorry about that...I got all restimulated into Sneakster's valence...

I know what! Maybe Sneaks will come back and post here so I don't get over restimulated!

 

[Terril park]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

DOX! DOX! DOX!

...sorry about that...I got all restimulated into Sneakster's valence...

I know what! Maybe Sneaks will come back and post here so I don't get over restimulated!

Well I guess thats one way to walk a mile in someone's shoes

Try googleing the title of this thread to ease your craving for DOX or sneakster.
Do that 3 times per day until feeling better

 

[uncover]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Decades ago I met a guy who was in prison for years. So one could assume, that he was very experienced with different kind of people coming from the dark side. One day he said to me the following "wisdom":

"Uncover, you make a big mistake. You believe in the good in man. But if you search long enough, you will be able to find something "good" in everybody."

I think Hubbard and his hardcore worshippers can be used as a touchstone for this "wisdom" .....
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"Now let´s clear this planet and save the world - the goal justifies the means."

 

[In present time]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

In response to Terril posting about Michael's work with children; I don't think that anyone here doubts for a moment that Michael has some good qualities. I even get the impression that many people here critical of his behaviour see him as a victim of Scientology and the information on his family background shows that there are other factors that *could* have contributed to his current state of mind.

Terril also thought he knew my identity and threatened to "out me" some time ago. I get the impression that he got the wrong person and in the process could have caused a great deal of harm. Terril and Michael are posting under their real names when many of us choose not to do so. This is problematic when discussing other ex's conduct as the people who are anonymous only have their online posting history. Those who are not anonymous have their entire lives under scrutiny.

We may post in an anonymous fashion but our writings and this board is open to everyone. The Freezone boards are not and have a policy of operating in secrecy. Terril wants more people of Hobson's ilk here? They've never been stopped from registering and posting here. Hobson could have stayed but found posts about Hubbard's history too much to bear and instead hit the FZ and indie boards to discuss our shortcomings whilst many of us are banned from speaking freely on Marty's blog and Michael Moore's group. When freedom of speech is not allowed there is going to be a whole load of leaks. I'm sure most of us couldn't care less about leaks of personal emails and other stuff which should stay private but leaks of information put into private groups about other people are of great interest and as long as there are "ethics specialists" out there seeing OSA and enemies everywhere and revealing people's identities, the leaks will keep coming thick and fast. The information age has been Scientology's worst enemy.

indeed, if one looks back over the original thread, my so called "leaks" consist of me trying to figure out what the blow up was about with milestone two. i said, the indie facebook page was blowing up, and asked what was going on, and then comm i/c, i think it was, posted me a link to marty's blog that i had already read. i should have known marty's comments would have caused at major flap, because i should have remembered what you put so exquisitely. what marty said was true, and out in the open for all to see... and the indies are still hung up on "pr" instead of just being honest or open. once again i underestimated their paranoia and the "need to know" basis that they knowingly or unknowingly operate on.
if these people, or osa or any of the other of them were in the lsightest bit trustworthy, i would have openly posted links here to my website and etc. for all to see. i mean it's not like i run drug dens or anything, like someones twin sister

 

[TG1]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Terril,

Glass houses ....

Try googling your own name: "Terril Park"

As you will see, your online reputation (earned by your own online behavior) requires more repair than the Sneakster's.

TG1

 

[In present time]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

DOX! DOX! DOX!

...sorry about that...I got all restimulated into Sneakster's valence...

I know what! Maybe Sneaks will come back and post here so I don't get over restimulated!

sneaks posted no dox in his accusation against me, the group just fell for it i guess. which implies misplaced trust.
sneaks don't need no stinkin' dox.
and after this accusation, i commented DOX OR STFU. i never got to see the response to that, i was booted. and targeted as the "suspect", which annoyed me no end, because i would have said that in defense of anyone on esmb. it just happened to be ipt.

but, i know i will never find redemption from them, because they missed my withhold and therefore they are right again! must apply standard tech standardly, ya know. black and white, or should i say red or green thinking. scientology has no rainbow.

i wonder if those of us that are really out on esmb have become the "psychs" of the freezone, errrmmm i mean indies? especially because i see indies admitting they see psychologists and take medications.

i remember way back when marty started his blog, i jumped on because i had been reading freezone magazines for years, and i stupidly said, oh the freezone! that's great we can all talk now, only to be set in my place that the fz are all squirrels. IT NEVER ENDS. there is nothing free or indy about any of it.

i think i have finally learned that lesson.

 

[In present time]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

[WIKI][/WIKI]

Well I guess thats one way to walk a mile in someone's shoes

Try googleing the title of this thread to ease your craving for DOX or sneakster.
Do that 3 times per day until feeling better

Terril, it sounds as if you are a friend to Michael.
Have you ever considered advising him to be a communicator and not an knee jerk accuser?
I mean if you are his friend, and you worry about his reputation, I think your time and energy would be better spent talking to him and helping him become human again.

 

[Terril park]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

[WIKI][/WIKI]
Terril, it sounds as if you are a friend to Michael.
Have you ever considered advising him to be a communicator and not an knee jerk accuser?
I mean if you are his friend, and you worry about his reputation, I think your time and energy would be better spent talking to him and helping him become human again.

I'm not a friend particularly of Michael and certainly not an enemy.
Don't think he likes me even. Probably thinks I'm a "squirrel".

You posted rude ad hominems to him which is unaceptable behavior.
I called you on that.

I still don't know the basis of your quarrel with him, as I'm not interested in reading fundamentalist websites.

If he actually outed you that is unaceptable behaviour on any Scn forum.

Had no idea you were ever interested in the FZ.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

I'm not a friend particularly of Michael and certainly not an enemy.
Don't think he likes me even. Probably thinks I'm a "squirrel".

You posted rude ad hominems to him which is unaceptable behavior.
I called you on that.

I still don't know the basis of your quarrel with him, as I'm not interested in reading fundamentalist websites.

If he actually outed you that is unaceptable behaviour on any Scn forum.

Had no idea you were ever interested in the FZ.

Really? OMG, Terril! lol

Terril, if they ever do a sequel to "The Graduate" (1967), I am going to write the screenplay and entitle it "The Gradient" and you are being cast in the starring role as the grown-up Dustin Hoffman ("Ben").

Here's a scene from the original:

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics.
Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?
​

Based on your still not knowing the basis of people's problem with Sneakster (and my sincere attempt to help you standardly handle your Study Barrier) here is a scene from the "The Gradient" (2013):​

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Clay.
Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?​

 

[Claire Swazey]

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No need to read my mind, just read the post.

Your sarcasm speaks volumes about you.

Yes, and all of it good.

You said something, I mentioned it, and it went on from there. That's all there is to it.

 

[In present time]

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Really? OMG, Terril! lol

Terril, if they ever do a sequel to "The Graduate" (1967), I am going to write the screenplay and entitle it "The Gradient" and you are being cast in the starring role as the grown-up Dustin Hoffman ("Ben").

Here's a scene from the original:

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Plastics.
Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?
​

Based on your still not knowing the basis of people's quarrel with Sneakster (and my sincere attempt to help you standardly handle your Study Barrier) here is a scene from the "The Gradient" (2013):​

Mr. McGuire: I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Clay.
Benjamin: Exactly how do you mean?​

you are so funny, that made even ME laugh after storming out of the house, with a strong desire to shoot my #%€£*!¥ printer.
you really should charge for this hella

 

[Claire Swazey]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Terril, he's not positioning Hobson with those other groups of people, he's metaphorically saying that Hobson, is about as wanted in his field as these guy's are in theirs; i.e., they're abusive and not wanted at all.

Both you and C Swaizey have this habit of taking things that people write 100% literally and have a terrible habit of DERAILING TOPICS and turning them into nit picky squabbles.

I'm not sure who "C Swaizey" is, but I said several times that now that In Present Time has discussed what happened to him, that this caused me to completely change my mind about much of what was posted in this thread. The only reservations I had after that were the mentions (that were made here) of Mike's family and I said as much several times.

That particular subtopic was uncool but I no longer have disagreement with the other discussion of Sneaks- cuz I was uninformed when I wrote that first post and I've said this. That's why we humans post here. To find stuff out by discussion.

 

[Claire Swazey]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Also, how's it a derail if the topic of the thread is Mike Hobson and somebody comes on here and discusses Mike Hobson?

We are all discussing the same topic here, Terril, IPT, Vittorio and everyone else here. Mike Hobson. But we don't all agree and some of the posts weren't correct. (Like my first couple here, for example.) That's what happens with discussion. There's usually more than one opinion represented therein.

 

[Lulu Belle]

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They all were part of a nasty cult that was, little by little, tightening a concertina wire (clad in velvet) noose around their necks and by the time they could see that the velvet was off and the sharp metal was there, it was too late.

good description.

 

[In present time]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

I'm not a friend particularly of Michael and certainly not an enemy.
Don't think he likes me even. Probably thinks I'm a "squirrel".

You posted rude ad hominems to him which is unaceptable behavior.
I called you on that.

I still don't know the basis of your quarrel with him, as I'm not interested in reading fundamentalist websites.

If he actually outed you that is unaceptable behaviour on any Scn forum.

Had no idea you were ever interested in the FZ.

Ah Hom...really? Let's take a look at this.

Michael named me as a "nominal member" of the indie scn. group, ( a Post hoc accusation,)so that made me open to guilt of...something.
AND an ad hoc meaning, because I didn't post much, therefore I was probably a leak.

Which led to him assuming; Ad populum: because most people would agree, a member of an indie scientologist page that didn't post must be guilty.

BTW, that is also a Non sequitur ... since she didn't post much this must mean...

Which led YOU to Faulty emotional appeals: "Michael had a hard life, his mother is dying, he took care of babies in the S.O.!"

I am not sure you can call my comments ad homs, because Michael made no direct argument to me that I could hope to counter with any actual facts.

So he is stinky, and I don't like him...lol.

 

[Claire Swazey]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Ooh, and sorry I was referring to you as a guy...I just saw your other post. Dang.

 

[In present time]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Ooh, and sorry I was referring to you as a guy...I just saw your other post. Dang.

nah, it is okay, IPT is a neutral name, and what pictures i had posted before have since been deleted.

 

[CO2]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Ah Hom...really? Let's take a look at this.

Michael named me as a "nominal member" of the indie scn. group, ( a Post hoc accusation,)so that made me open to guilt of...something.
AND an ad hoc meaning, because I didn't post much, therefore I was probably a leak.

Which led to him assuming; Ad populum: because most people would agree, a member of an indie scientologist page that didn't post must be guilty.

BTW, that is also a Non sequitur ... since she didn't post much this must mean...

Which led YOU to Faulty emotional appeals: "Michael had a hard life, his mother is dying, he took care of babies in the S.O.!"

I am not sure you can call my comments ad homs, because Michael made no direct argument to me that I could hope to counter with any actual facts.

So he is stinky, and I don't like him...lol.

Heu, modo itera omnia quae mihi nunc nuper narravisti, sed nunc Anglice?

 

[Smurf]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

I'm not a friend particularly of Michael and certainly not an enemy. Don't think he likes me even. Probably thinks I'm a "squirrel".

Nah. I seriously doubt that. Otherwise, you would not be a Facebook friend of his.

 

[CommunicatorIC]

Re: Michael Hobson is now the Security Investigations Officer of a Indie Facebook Gro

Mike "Sneakster" Hobson is the Senior Security Investigations Officer. For a Facebook group that is saving the planet.

That is hyperbole. Michael Hobson is not the "Senior Security Investigations Officer" of the Indie Facebook group. He is merely the "Security Investigations Officer."

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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