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MICHEL - SOLO NOTS DESTRUCTION!

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Blue Spirit, i am sorry but i do not have this data. The only thing i can tell you is that while posted as Solo Nots D of P i have heard of 4 Solo Nots / OT8 who died in a period of one year or so (Jo Roberts suicide, Beppe Guzzo cancer, Jose Luis Galicia Killed and Loretta Miscavige cancer.)

Michel
Hi Michel,
Great thread you started here. Very glad you are speaking up.

Many OT's have died of cancer although not all are NOTS PC's

Dennis Dubin died October 2008-new OT8 of cancer
His and other names are also posted here:
WhyTheyAreDead- My Theory
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=9717

Death Tally in Scientology ( as of 2008)
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/death-tally-scientology-5006/#post92478

There is another list on one of the forums that is more current as of 2009 sometime. Quite a few died in 2009.

Thank you for speaking up.

Mary McConnell
 
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Michel

Patron with Honors
Michel,

I would like you to tell us the whole story here. It would be pretty handy for me to know as I have been in communication with several people on solo nots.

I knew about the suicide of Greg Bashaw in '97 and Seve Brackett last October. I've also been following the Rex Fowler tragedy. I quote these stories and put them into sharp contrast to the "aims of Scientology " that Tommy so glibly quoted on 4 Corners the other night.

Are there any other suicides of OT VIIs and VIIIs?

Also see my signature....:coolwink:

No problem my friend,

I am gonna start a new thread on this subject.:yes:
 

Michel

Patron with Honors
Hi Michel,
Great thread you started here. Very glad you are speaking up.

Many OT's have died of cancer although not all are NOTS PC's

Dennis Dubin died October 2008-new OT8 of cancer
His and other names are also posted here:
WhyTheyAreDead- My Theory
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=9717

Death Tally in Scientology ( as of 2008)
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-discussion/death-tally-scientology-5006/#post92478

There is another list on one of the forums that is more current as of 2009 sometime. Quite a few died in 2009.

Thank you for speaking up.

Mary McConnell

Thanks a lot Mary,

I am going to start a new thread on this subjet.:yes:

Michel.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Now, there is a tag status for each solo nots auditor:

Green tag: audit 4 to 6 sessions daily and comes on time for his 6 months check.

Grey tag: audit less than 4 sessions daily and doesn't come on time for his 6 month check.

Orange tag: Not allowed to solo audit because of out ethics situation.

Purple tag: Not allowed to audit because of illness or sickness.

Black tag: Disaffected with the church.

How do the Solo NOTs auditors keep the HGC up to date? Do they email progress reports? Texts? Tweets? Is it all hard copy worksheets through the mail? I was wondering how the Board I/C gets the data needed to update the board. I was a Board I/C at the NOTs Div at Saint Hill around 1982. That must be a REALLY BIG-ASS board to have 5,300 people on it! At 1 square inch each and no border space even that's about 37 square feet. Allowing for a bit of space, about 4 foot high by 10 foot long.

Do people like Feral stay as black tags forever? Or do they quietly drop off the board as if they never existed.

What happens to people when they die? Is there a deceased category? Maybe a "next lifetime prospect", perhaps a silver or gold tag (except those colours look like grey and yellow)?

Paul
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
Every Solo NOTs Auditor faxes a non-Confidential Weekly Report to their DofP detailing sessions done, progress on the Level, how it's going, participation in Org Activities, wins etc (Michel can answer the rest).
 

Michel

Patron with Honors
How do the Solo NOTs auditors keep the HGC up to date? Do they email progress reports? Texts? Tweets? Is it all hard copy worksheets through the mail? I was wondering how the Board I/C gets the data needed to update the board. I was a Board I/C at the NOTs Div at Saint Hill around 1982. That must be a REALLY BIG-ASS board to have 5,300 people on it! At 1 square inch each and no border space even that's about 37 square feet. Allowing for a bit of space, about 4 foot high by 10 foot long.

Do people like Feral stay as black tags forever? Or do they quietly drop off the board as if they never existed.

What happens to people when they die? Is there a deceased category? Maybe a "next lifetime prospect", perhaps a silver or gold tag (except those colours look like grey and yellow)?

Paul


How do the Solo NOTs auditors keep the HGC up to date? Do they email progress reports? Texts? Tweets?

Every 2 weeks the SN auditor send to the SN C/S his worksheet, Confidential lits used during sessions, total hours done, any comm to the SN C/S.

Is it all hard copy worksheets through the mail?

Yes, sealed in a plastic envelop that is put in a yellow paper envelop.

I was wondering how the Board I/C gets the data needed to update the board. I was a Board I/C at the NOTs Div at Saint Hill around 1982. That must be a REALLY BIG-ASS board to have 5,300 people on it! At 1 square inch each and no border space even that's about 37 square feet. Allowing for a bit of space, about 4 foot high by 10 foot long.

Yes, the board was covering 3 walls in U shape. You are right, 10 feet x 4 feet

Do people like Feral stay as black tags forever? Or do they quietly drop off the board as if they never existed.

Yes, they are potential recovery PCs. There was a mission in 2006 that was working on the recovery of all Black tags.


What happens to people when they die? Is there a deceased category? Maybe a "next lifetime prospect", perhaps a silver or gold tag (except those colours look like grey and yellow)?

Yes, there is a special tank where the folders are kept....for the next lifetime!

Holly shit, i better find another planet next time.

Unless we manage to clear this planet before(no more scientology around):thumbsup:


Paul



Michel.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Every 2 weeks the SN auditor send to the SN C/S his worksheet, Confidential lits used during sessions, total hours done, any comm to the SN C/S. <snip>
Thanks for those answers, Michel.

Yes, they are potential recovery PCs. There was a mission in 2006 that was working on the recovery of all Black tags.

Hah! Good luck with that. That must have been one hell of a mission to be on.

I get it about the folders for the deceased pcs. Did they have tags on the board too?

Paul
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Every Solo NOTs Auditor faxes a non-Confidential Weekly Report to their DofP detailing sessions done, progress on the Level, how it's going, participation in Org Activities, wins etc (Michel can answer the rest).

Thanks Panda. Fax. How modern. :)

Paul
 

Michel

Patron with Honors
Thanks for those answers, Michel.



Hah! Good luck with that. That must have been one hell of a mission to be on.

I get it about the folders for the deceased pcs. Did they have tags on the board too?

Paul

No Paul, the dead ones aren't making any stat!:no: for right now.

They aren't on the board.

Michel.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
No Paul, the dead ones aren't making any stat!:no: for right now.

They aren't on the board.

Michel.

OK, thanks. I thought it might be interesting to see.

Next questions: :). I assume the tags are alphabetical by name, one tag per person. Is there a colour code on each one, or is the board divided into sections, one alphabetical section for each category (green, purple, black etc.)?

And what info goes on each tag? Obviously name, but also what? Phone number? How long they have been on the level? Credit card number? (joke)

Paul
 

Michel

Patron with Honors
OK, thanks. I thought it might be interesting to see.

Next questions: :). I assume the tags are alphabetical by name, one tag per person. Is there a colour code on each one, or is the board divided into sections, one alphabetical section for each category (green, purple, black etc.)?

And what info goes on each tag? Obviously name, but also what? Phone number? How long they have been on the level? Credit card number? (joke)

Paul

The board is divided into sections, but it became very complex to move the tags and make new tags and track the names, adress, phones, etc...

Thus, they computerized the entire system and the board wasn't anymore used.

The sofware they use can give you the list of auditors by color tag, by country and by D of P. You get access to the adress, phone number and email adress of all the SN Auditors.

When an auditor is found not auditing 4 to 6 sessions daily he must be downgraded from Green to Grey with RTC approval. Same for Grey to Purple, Orange or Black.

Of course the SN Auditor doesn't know that he has a Colored tag.

Michel.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Thanks, Michel. That makes sense.

They need RTC OK simply to downgrade someone from obvious data? Jesus. Micro-management again.

Paul
 

Idle Morgue

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hello everybody!

Here is a topic I really want to share with you guys.

I have been posted as Solo Nots D of P from April 2005 to November 2006. And then I blew the Sea Org! Actually, I replaced Dr Donna Shannon and I am pleased to know that she left the “Church” too.

I have spent 20 years of my life in Scientology, became a class 5 auditor and auditing on Solo Nots. I joined the Sea Org with the goal of helping this group clear the planet. After 8 years spent in the Sea Org i realized that this group will fail because it is oppressed by one individual: David Miscavige. A true Dictator!

When I realized that, I blew. From the inside it’s impossible to do anything!

The Solo Nots HGC is the most secured area in the entire Sea Org. Only a few people can access it.

Now, here is a statistic every Scientologist in the world must be aware of:

There are 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors worldwide

2,100 of them are auditing daily.

3,200 are off the Level.

This is David Miscavige’s statistic!

Now, imagine 5,300 Solo Nots Auditors C/Sed by only 6 Solo Nots C/Ses! Each C/S has to handle 830 Solo Nots Auditors! Moreover, the C/Ses speak only English and there is no worksheet translation unit.

The result is 3,200 Solo Nots Auditors falling off the level!

I designed the Flag Advanced Organization back in 2001 . 85 Nots auditing rooms were added as well as 20 more workstations for Solo Nots C/Ses.

Guess what?

The 85 Nots auditors where trained right away and put on post. But, in November 2006, five years later, there was no Solo Nots C/S added!

Now, if one wants to make some good business, one doesn’t want people to Solo Audit for free, or almost (it cost $1,700 to get C/Sed for 6 months).

Thus, one has to “invent” some training and auditing actions in order to make some money out of the Solo Nots Auditors.

And here is the Golden Age of Tech for Solo Nots where you must study the new materials and re do the level again, because before it was wrong!

And here is the “6 months check” FPRD style which takes 2 – 3 Nots intensives every 6 months!

And here is the “Advance program” where you are told that you aren’t Clear and that you need some more Dianetics auditing, by a CL9 off course!

And how about your participation as Scientologist? You better donate to the IAS, SUPER POWER, YOUR IDEAL ORG, ETC…. if you want RTC to “accept” that you attest OT7.Otherwise, I am telling you, you won’t attest….I saw it!

Now, do you see how one man can oppress an entire Religion?

Now, do you see why so many OT7 and OT8 are with cancer, financially broken, commit suicide and, like William Rex Fowler, kill people?

Now, I have one more question……Who is oppressing DM…the IRS maybe?

Michel.

Thanks for the info - you can't do anything as a public either - it is going down - the Church of Scientology - and I am glad I had enough of my mind left so I did not go any further up the Bridge to total bankruptcy!

Who is oppressing DM? That is a good question - he has no one above him so it is not anyone - so let's get to the bottom of that question, shall we? I would love to know the truth!
 

Idle Morgue

Gold Meritorious Patron
I really understand you Feral. What a waste of time for all of us! What a shame. I read your story my friend. It hurts! Really bad! Now it's time to put some justice in, don't you think?

I am with you my friend. If you are looking for a class action, pls let me know.
Michel


I have may have an attorney (very good one) that would represent a class action - Private message me if you are interested.


I would love to sue this organization - they are getting really really weak right now - so the timing may be right!:yes:
 
Sue them on what grounds? Not applying standard LRH, by adding in 6 mo's checks, clear int's, not needed repair auditing? The class action suit I'd like to see is criminal fraud - the IAS and the Super Power scams in particular. It would be sweet to get my money back from the IAS, less the attorney fees.

Mimsey
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Thanks for the info - you can't do anything as a public either - it is going down - the Church of Scientology - and I am glad I had enough of my mind left so I did not go any further up the Bridge to total bankruptcy!

Who is oppressing DM? That is a good question - he has no one above him so it is not anyone - so let's get to the bottom of that question, shall we? I would love to know the truth!

Michel was posting up a storm here on ESMB, with very daming information but at one point, apparently pressure was brought on him and he's since stopped posting. I emailed him, as others have, and he's not replying. My take is that he got the all information out ( see his other thread on NOTS and his post at Flag) and is now concentrating on his business and life. Who can blame him. I am grateful for all he wrote.

If you are reading this, Michel, thank you!
 

onthepes

Patron with Honors
Correct. Additionally, the simple fact that auditing off a meter has been known to produce the same feelings of euphoria discounts the "electrical stimulation of the pituitary" hypothesis. :eyeroll:


Mark A. Baker


Yes I am not sure I would discount that theory. However from my own experience I got more euphoria from 50 hours of Book One Auditing than the same on the cans. Each to their own. One could say I had already got off a lot of charge on Book One prior to a couple of Bridge actions. Actually I did not get much out of holding the cans at all. But you see, that is Scientology. A complete jumble of contradictions. For instance, in DMSMH LRH mentions not to ask relatives about your incidents as they will cloud the issue. The big thing with Dianetics was finding our own truths. Then , on OT3, you are given the Xenu incident. HUH??
 
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