I was not commenting on whether Scientology was needed and valuable, just commenting on Ralphs "solution" to a person who obviously wants nothing to do with Scientology is ... Scientology. It's an incredibly out-of-touch response, but very Scientological. (I actually assumed it was tongue in cheek)
As for Scientology being "needed and valuable", that's totally up to an individual. Society in general finds nothing needed or valuable in Scientology. But individuals have different needs and different value systems.
If the concept (idea) of the state "clear" was not even mentioned in dianetics or sicientology,
and extrapolating from the "clear" to the concept of OT,
would dianetics/scientology continue or have been in existence for as long as it has been now, 63 years.
I dunno know, w/o the clear concept, or my take, without hubbards implanted, postulated, goal of clear & OT (and given to others as a goal), what do we have? Nothing more than a better Freud but hyped up on sales/marketing/pr. :confused2: