Mike McClaughry

[Lulu Belle]

Mike,

The gist of all of this...

Nobody gives a shit about OSA any more.

1) They have shown themselves to be weak and ineffective.

2) A lot of the OSA people who have tried to infiltrate these boards have "gone native" (such as Tory). Ex-Scientologists appear to be way more of a threat to OSA than the other way around.

3) The church has so much shit going against them which is so much bigger than anything going on on any internet message board that deploying any resources whatsoever here would just be another indication of their stupidity. It's like spending time swatting flies in your kitchen when your house is on fire.

My recommendation is that you relax, get rid of the paranoia and conspiracy theory stuff, and just post. I like a lot of what you've had to say so far. I know a lot of people have history regarding you and don't trust you. Whatever.

I'd like to give you a chance and hear what you have to say.

Welcome to Present Time.

 

[TheSneakster]

Excuse me, Ms. Moher. To the best of my knowledge, I certainly have engaged in no "head games", complicated or otherwise.

If that pink hat of yours ain't a "head game", I don't know what is.

The pink hat was bestowed by Emma herself on May 16, 2008.

Who am I to question Emma's wisdom ?

 

[Mick Wenlock]

The pink hat was bestowed by Emma herself on May 16, 2008.

Who am I to question Emma's wisdom ?

you do know that Emma is Australian?

 

[I told you I was trouble]

ere Mike, haz you got a goldfinger?

Hello, hello (taps keyboard) ... calling Mike ... Mike McClaughry ... this is Pussy Galore here, just trying to let you know that you forgot your play-lunch when you dashed out this morning to save ESMB from OSAOSAOSA.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQoSK9wibU&feature=related​

 

[lotus]

 

[I told you I was trouble]

you do know that Emma is Australian?

True ... but she's married to a Pom, so that in itself demonstrates a certain wisdom.


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[Terril park]

I don't work FOR or "on behalf of" anyone, I said with.

And that's all I'm gonna say about that, here, and at this time.

Also, I do not feel that what I have said already, needs to be brought into alignment with someone's idea of how they think things work.

When I came to this forum, I had some things to say and also some people I wanted to say things to.

I'm not interested in verbal jousting with any kind of agents here. Or with anyone who might as well be one, for how they present themselves.

Mike

Mike

Do you still think I'm an agent, and if so for who?

 

[Ogsonofgroo]

Sneaks, the pink hat, I suspect, hides your all-knowing-all-seeing third eye.... (maybe it was the contrast in colors? )




(when I first started reading here I was like~ wtf? Pink hats??? Lololol! its nice to see that some of you guys enjoyed the humour in it and kept them, good on ya!)




Oh, hell, I really wanted to say something else (not to you), oh yeh, FUCK YOU OSA FREAKY-ASSED-GERBILS *cough* sry, just spilled out.....

 

[lotus]

[video]http://youtu.be/hdmIhCkp3p4[/video]

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

Do you still think I'm an agent, and if so for who?

Not you, Terril, but I've always suspected that some people here are undercover life insurance salesmen.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Do you still think I'm an agent, and if so for who?

Terril,

You have no idea how hard I am restraining myself from answering that ... but it's almost Christmas so I'm going to try and behave now.


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[Leon]

So I'm going to wade in a tad here.

Mike says Scio is all bunk etc etc and should be destroyed utterly.

He also "infiltrated" Scio and worked in the GO causing all kinds of crap and doing essentially evil things to people. Ruining their lives utterly and so on.

While in Scio he and his missus discovered the squirrelness of SoloNOTs and revealed this to others and stirred up things there too.

When out of Scio the two of them presented themselves as being just about the only true ethical scios on planet earth and the rest of as are all degraded squirrels.

Now he is here wanting to know what we know about who might be an OSA operative.

OK so far?

OK.

So here's what I reckon. Mike and his missus are Pinkerton agents on behalf of the US government. The got sent in to Scio in order to trash the subject. They did this by using Scio against itself, demanding the strictest adherence to what Hubbard wrote as to what Standard Tech is. In doing this they wreaked havoc by declaring people and ruining their lives with covert ops etc, knowing full well that (a) no one would oppose them [since this would show them up as being namby pamby pantywaists], and (b) any damage it created would be blamed on the CofS - and this has been shown to be effective. Scio stinks everywhere.

So. A successful mission to wreck scio and find out all they can for their masters.

Then - in order to make sure that the Freezone guys don't get up again - they start presenting themselves once more as the paragons of standardness and condemn every tech person they encounter as a wicked squirrel piece of shit, and they thereby create mayhem wherever possible in the freezone too.

Now he's here, still operating on his original mission orders from Pinkerton Central, in order to stir things up and find out more about OSA operatives if he can.

That's how it truly looks to me. I would sincerely like to be wrong about all this. In truth, I have always looked up to these two somewhat, but always found their intensity of being true to the cause somewhat over the top for me personally. But since that was all a sham - Scio being all bunk - well, unless he recovers himself somehow, I think maybe he has succeeded in totally dead-agenting himself. And V too.

Good riddance.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

Poor old Freezoner's ... they just can't win.

Yeah, that'll be it Leon.

Except .... I wonder what Pinkerton did to upset him and make him want to 'come out' on ESMB?

Reduced his superannuation contributions?

Started buying cheap and nasty coffee for the canteen?

Objected to all the tax claims he was putting through for special sekret equipment?

Started calling him Agent 2.5%?

Actually that last one would upset anyone, so maybe you're right.

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[Cherished]

What a fun thread.

Hi Mike.

That is all.

 

[MattD]

So I'm going to wade in a tad here.

Mike says

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dead-agenting himself. And V too.

Good riddance.

Your theory would sound better if you replaced Pinkertons with rouge elements of the intelligence structure. Or maybe that is what you mean by Pinkertons! I hope you don't mind me using your post as a springboard for my theory Leon.

Which is that Mike and Virginia have found out that Miscavige and Rathbun are really just fighting over the money and could give a rip about scientology. Operating on the principle that when someone takes aways your game, as both rathbun and mistercabbage have done to the McClaughry's, the game then becomes get the person who took the game away. The McClaughry's are trying to spoil Rathbun's and miscavige's little tussle, mostly for spite.

Scientology is just the playing field for self assumed big beings to fight amoungst themselves over the symbols that seem most important, dollars and perceived power.

I've got a sweet little side yard with a rose bush that I go and meditate in sometimes, and drink in at others. That and my daily meals and a roof and I am happy. But it is amusing to watch the big beings play sometimes.

 

[Mike McClaughry]

Well, I like what you said, and it is probably true, that the E-meter is FAR from being "perfect in detecting all". I know people who kept things hidden despite the E-meter, and I could make the needle F/N if I wanted to.

But, you also haven't answered HOW and WHY YOU INFILTRATED THE Church of Scientology.

Will you ever? Or, should we just keep that claim and assertion labeled as "total bullshit"? :confused2:

Your comment on the floating needle reminds me of something else about auditing. Let's say a guy is an axe murderer. They audit him on engrams and he can have any off-topic cognition he wants and his needle floats. He could have a cognition that he just realized why he likes bubble-gum, which has nothing to do with him being an axe-murderer. But according to Scientology technology, he got a floating needle so he has now "handled" being an axe murderer.... no he hasn't!

The false datum that "engrams are the single source of aberration" is a topic I could elaborate on sometime and state what is wrong with that. Too busy to do it now.

As to HOW I infiltrated the Church is easy - you just walk into an org and get involved.

As to WHY I did, that is pretty well known here, even if the full evil of Hubbard and Scientology is not completely known here, enough is known to answer the question.

Will I ever give you more data beyond these answers? I think so.

In the meantime, you can classify this in your mind as bullshit, I would not be offended. I would suggest that just because it seems unlikely to you, does not make it automatically untrue.

I am not trying to offend you or others who asked for further explanations about this, but the full answer to this question involves my friends, and I am not going to betray their confidence. Until the time when I have their consent, I will not further elaborate.


Mike

 

[Leon]

Your theory would sound better if you replaced Pinkertons with rouge elements of the intelligence structure. Or maybe that is what you mean by Pinkertons! I hope you don't mind me using your post as a springboard for my theory Leon.

Which is that Mike and Virginia have found out that Miscavige and Rathbun are really just fighting over the money and could give a rip about scientology. Operating on the principle that when someone takes aways your game, as both rathbun and mistercabbage have done to the McClaughry's, the game then becomes get the person who took the game away. The McClaughry's are trying to spoil Rathbun's and miscavige's little tussle, mostly for spite.

Scientology is just the playing field for self assumed big beings to fight amoungst themselves over the symbols that seem most important, dollars and perceived power.

I've got a sweet little side yard with a rose bush that I go and meditate in sometimes, and drink in at others. That and my daily meals and a roof and I am happy. But it is amusing to watch the big beings play sometimes.

If you were ever sincere about Scientology then why would you join an outfit - the GO, and a particular branch of that GO - which is so obviously totally off-purpose and out-ethics on all dynamivs? And why would you relish the destructive acts you did there so intensely? and why would you continue after leaving the CofS to judge, invalidate and condemn every practising auditor who doesn't kowtow to the two of you?

Nah.

 

[Mike McClaughry]

Mike, we try to refrain from OSA witch hunts on ESMB and I'll tell you why.

There are wackjobs, narcissists, conspiracy nuts, assholes & sociopaths in society and sometimes we get them on ESMB. Instead of trying to work out whether they are OSA or one of the above categories, I make it simple and try to keep all of the above out of ESMB. I simply give a person enough rope and eventually if they are one of the above they will hang themselves & I don't have to wonder or care if they were OSA or not.

In a way, you took some of the words out of my mouth, as to what I was leading up to saying about OSA agents. I do not think the only explanation for wacky behavior is that the person is an OSA agent. It is not a hot topic for me, anyway, I'm not obsessed with whether someone is or is not an OSA agent, I could hardly care less.

But, when someone acts like one, I don't rule out that as a possible explanation for their odd behavior.

I am not on an OSA witch hunt, nor am I asking anyone else here to look for them.

My point of view about all of that is that people out here have not infiltrated OSA to find out who they are, so no one here has proof of who they are, but that really doesn't matter.

Certain individuals here or not here, have conducted a vicious black propaganda campaign against Virginia and myself on the internet, that is a fact that is known. Why they did it is left to speculation, are they OSA or just vicious people? We do not have to answer that question. What we can be certain about is that they did it.

For example, they spread around that I put LSD in the toothpaste of a pregnant woman, while knowing full well that is a lie, because the only way they know about it is my video about church intelligence, and in that video I clearly state I was not involved in that, and that I highly disapproved of that having been done.

Now, everyone here would agree that tactic is evil when Hubbard and OSA agents do it to people. It is no less evil when people do it, who are not OSA agents. It is never right to do that, regardless of who the targeted person is.

If a man was proven to be a serial killer, that is all you need to say about him, but to invent lies about him to make him seem even worse, is wrong every time. And who would stoop to such a lowly action is being just as evil as Hubbard and OSA for having done it. If they are not actually OSA, they might as well be, they're on the same level with them.

People here (and not here) have said that I am an OSA agent, which is not true. You don't see me starting a Black Propaganda (lies) campaign against them for it.

Mike

 

[Mike McClaughry]

Mike and his missus are Pinkerton agents on behalf of the US government.

Even though it isn't true - that was funny. You and David Griffin should get together.



Mike

 

[Mike McClaughry]

Your theory would sound better if you replaced Pinkertons with rouge elements of the intelligence structure.

....The McClaughry's are trying to spoil Rathbun's and miscavige's little tussle, mostly for spite.

Uh, No. On both counts.

I also don't subscribe to the whole BIG beings versus leetle tiny beings or expando-matic beings or half-breed beings or whatever along those lines.

Hierarchal horseshit.

Mike