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Mike Rinder's brother Andrew on Opening of Scientology Sydney Continental Org.

Mike Rinder: The Kool Aid Drunks
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/sydney-2/

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Unfortunately, and embarrassingly, this email epitomizes everything that is wrong with the “OT’s” who are the main Miscavige Minions keeping the illusion of ideal orgs alive.

My brother is the poster child for KoolAid drunks.

Leaked e-mail:
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014
From: Andrew & Pat Rinder <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: From the ANZO OT Committee Chairman

Hi guys!

We’ve reached a point in our Cont that is the turning point of this civilization. The opening of our Sydney Continental Org is not just opening the 2nd Ideal Org. It is exponentially 10 times or more the effect. It is the greatest thing you could do or attend. Your support is vital. We are honouring LRH with this building and the technology contained within it. An Ideal Org IS an island of sanity. It is the ONLY hope for this civilization. Whether you fully understand the significance of this Continental Org only your reality knows. But I know that this is the turning point for ANZO and this sector of the universe.

You have worked for many years to achieve this – you have ALL worked for many years to achieve this. Share your win – it’s YOUR org – be there to celebrate. Chairman of the Board RTC is making his 2nd trip down under. How could we not be there to honour that?

Drop what you are doing – it will be there when you return. And we will all be there together as this is the only thing you have never done on your track and that is creating an Ideal Org.

So see you there!

Ml,

Andrew Rinder
ANZO OT Committee Chairman

EDITED TO ADD:

FWIW, I find Mike's post poignant. It can't easy to confront the fact that your brother is "the poster child for KoolAid drunks."
 
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I particularly like one poignant sentence in that promo letter:

"An Ideal Org IS an island of sanity."

def
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Island of Sanity -idiom. 1. A safe space where delusional cult members can be efficiently bankrupted by predatory cult salesman who promise them non-existent supernatural states.
 

Thrak

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I particularly like one poignant sentence in that promo letter:

"An Ideal Org IS an island of sanity."

def
.

Island of Sanity -idiom. 1. A safe space where delusional cult members can be efficiently bankrupted by predatory cult salesman who promise them non-existent supernatural states.

yup
 

Rmack

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I particularly like one poignant sentence in that promo letter:

"An Ideal Org IS an island of sanity."

def
.

Island of Sanity -idiom. 1. A safe space where delusional cult members can be efficiently bankrupted by predatory cult salesman who promise them non-existent supernatural states.

Without being distracted by outside sources of non-sanity.
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
I doubt that he had much choice in that matter, Karen. What a terrible thing it is when scientology sets family members against each other.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Most of the Aussies know Andrew.
He's not a bad dude at all, just misguided in his Beliefs.

Originally Posted by Panda Termint
I doubt that he had much choice in that matter...


The above 2 posts made me wonder: What were you last lifetime, a Nuremberg Trial defense attorney?

Let me guess number #3: He was just following [STRIKE]orders[/STRIKE] the command channel?
 

BunnySkull

Silver Meritorious Patron
The above 2 posts made me wonder: What were you last lifetime, a Nuremberg Trial defense attorney?

Let me guess number #3: He was just following [STRIKE]orders[/STRIKE] the command channel?


Also, things are different today thanks to the Internet. Andrew is choosing to remain ignorant and in the thrall of the cult. He could simply get on the Internet, which he carries around access to in his pocket everyday, or better yet listen to his own damn brother who worked closely with DM for decades! He thinks DM, who has disappeared every notable CoS exec and his own wife, is to be believed over his own brother?!! He purposely prevented Mike from visiting his dying mother. Sad and inexcusable. His brother has smacked him in the face with the reality of CoS yet he continues to close his eyes to the truth and follow DM's marching orders.
 

David C Gibbons

Ex-Scientology Peon
I doubt that he had much choice in that matter, Karen. What a terrible thing it is when scientology sets family members against each other.

See, Dave, that's the wonderful thing: when you have no scruples, or are in mortal fear, you can do things like turning family members against each other without a second thought. That's the danger of dealing with Scientologists - they may look like decent people, and they may talk a good game, but they may do the most disgusting things because they believe their cause is just, or because they are in mortal fear of retribution from Scientology itself, or both.

Of course, this situation is not unique to Scientology, various cults or 'religious leaders' have manipulated their followers for millennia to commit the most heinous of crimes in the name of [fill in the blank], or in fear of eternal [fill in the blank].

The difference now is that more people are seeing what Scientology is really like because of places like this on the internet, and that is helping to break the power of Scientology over its followers. One can only hope that the internet is also helping break the power of Imams, 'Christian', 'Buddhist' , or any other spiritual leader who abuses faith to harm others, or cause others to harm others.

Faith is incredibly powerful, and incredibly dangerous. When someone like Hubbard, Miscavage, or their lieutenants abuses it, the results are appalling, as we have seen.
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
I doubt that he had much choice in that matter, Karen. What a terrible thing it is when scientology sets family members against each other.

I'd have thought it was obvious that anyone who stuck at scientology for any length of time must have, at least, thought that were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money.

Whilst it's probably comforting for some to think of it all as imagined, delusion, hypnosis or some kind of sleight of hand, the simple fact is that most (not all) probably got something out of it. Historical revisionism goes both ways, IMO.

ESMB, these days, seems to be mostly peopled by posters who've written the whole thing off as a bad experience, those who got little or nothing from scientology and/or those reluctant to even answer up to questions about any benefits they think they may have received through their participation in scientology.

Just my opinion. :)

Interesting contradiction. Good times had by all.
 
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Originally Posted by Panda Termint
I doubt that he had much choice in that matter, Karen. What a terrible thing it is when scientology sets family members against each other.


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Originally Posted by Panda Termint
I'd have thought it was obvious that anyone who stuck at scientology for any length of time must have, at least, thought that were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money.

Whilst it's probably comforting for some to think of it all as imagined, delusion, hypnosis or some kind of sleight of hand, the simple fact is that most (not all) probably got something out of it. Historical revisionism goes both ways, IMO.

Originally Posted by Panda Termint
ESMB, these days, seems to be mostly peopled by posters who've written the whole thing off as a bad experience, those who got little or nothing from scientology and/or those reluctant to even answer up to questions about any benefits they think they may have received through their participation in scientology.


Interesting contradiction. Good times had by all.


LOL

Another glaring contradiction in Panda's posts (above) is this:

(quoting)

"I'd have thought it was obvious that anyone who stuck at scientology for any length of time must have, at least, thought that (they) were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money."

"ESMB, these days, seems to be mostly peopled by posters who've written the whole thing off as a bad experience, those who got little or nothing from scientology and/or those reluctant to even answer up questions about any benefits they think they may have received through their participation in scientology."

Imagine for a moment that the cult being discussed was not Scientology but, instead, Jim Jones' "Peoples Temple".

The members of that suicide cult also thought "they were getting something of value in exchange for their time and money".

But at least Panda is 1/2 right. The 909 members who died at Jonestown (including over 300 children who were murdered) are "reluctant to even answer up questions about any benefits".

However, there appears to be a good reason why they are "reluctant to answer up".

 
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Panda Termint

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Thanks, mate. Yes, I did open it up by being so damn reasonable about those pesky scientologists and allowing that many people get something out of their time in scientology. That's just me being reasonable and making allowances for people. I do that all the time here on ESMB. :)
 
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