CommunicatorIC
@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Miscavige’s church losing control in South Africa
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1687
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1687
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1687
Comments of interest.First up. It is time to make a distinction. There is a growing number of people who no longer consider themselves part of the Church of Scientology. These are people either ‘under the radar’, have simply withdrawn from their org, or who have openly declared that they no longer stand with this organisation.
The vast majority of these people still call themselves Scientologists, but the association of the word is becoming more and more distasteful. The Joburg 18 were declared some 6 weeks ago and their declares stated, rather laughingly, “they are forbidden from calling themselves Scientologists”. As if they have the power to exert such control over a word.
So it is time to make a distinction. Those that call themselves Scientologists must reclaim the word. No offense to those who have ceased to be Scientologists but who still visit and read this blog. You are welcome, of course. But Scientologists, it is OUR word.
Let’s make a distinction. Those that have left, those that have chosen to no longer belong to the corruption calling itself the Church of Scientology – WE are the true Scientologists.
Those that remain in the Church are not Scientologists – they are simply members of David Miscavige’s church. Perhaps they could be called Miscavologists for want of a better description. And they are welcome to it.
Despite current efforts of new management, they are losing control of the South African Scientology community. Battle lines, predictably, have been drawn by the church. Your’e either with us or ‘agin us. But the time of large swathes of people immediately snapping to and saluting has passed. The efforts at more control are being balked at. The committee of evidence to “quell the restless natives” has not been met with much cooperation.
There are those that have made their undying loyalty known and will disconnect and report as much as they need to remain in favour. There will always be those sorts of followers. These are the people who believe they are being self-determined as they unquestioningly follow a system which has adopted the mantra of ’our way or the highway’. The Church of Miscavology has become a tyrannical regime.
But real Scientologists know better. And this is no more aptly described than by LRH himself:
AWARENESS
“Function is senior to structure, mankind as a spiritual being is senior to structure.
Nations are civilised not by new systems or force. They gain understanding and culture and dignity not from economics or politics but from man himself, and that most precious gift of AWARENESS. The building block of any civilisation is ‘A man thinking’.
‘The scrapyards of history are littered with the discarded derelicts of systems, political or judicial, which sought to oppress by various degrees of force, the right of sentient man to think freely and to communicate freely, his understanding.
‘Force met by force is not a solution. Many Saints and Sages and Scholars have been aware of this since the first syllable of recorded time.
‘Your potential is God given and Godlike. You have the right to seek to achieve understanding.
“Force, brutality, barbarism, lies can be viewed as they are. They can be confronted, they can be understood.
OUR WAY
‘In Scientology we believe we have the means to help man do this. It may not be the only way. It may not be the bravest or most dramatic way. It is our way, and we find it works. We can offer it to our fellows to have and to use or not.
But we do not, we dare not, force it upon them, for to do so would destroy the very purpose of our movement.
Excerpted from the Book of Ceremonies – 1973 Copyright version by L. Ron Hubbard
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1687
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1688Tony DePhillips on December 16, 2013 at 1:22 am said:
I don’t have anything on someone wanting to call themselves a Scientologist. I do think any true Scientologists would be outside of the cult.
I like a lot of Scientology but don’t call myself a Scientologist anymore primarily because I don’t want to identify myself with radical Scientology. I know the definition is that a Scientologist is “one who betters the conditions of himself and the conditions of others using Scn. technology”. Well I have done that and still do it to some degree but I still don’t think that is what it means to call my self a Scientologist. What I think it means, is that if you call yourself a Scientologist then you believe in the whole game created by LRH that the state of OT is attainable and we will Clear this planet and then move onto target 2. That is what I feel it means and I cannot say that I believe that anymore. I DO believe that through auditing people can get better and I don’t think I need to believe in all the rest in order to use the tech.
Like I said, I am fine if others want to identify themselves with the title.
I am also fine with people creating Scientology centers outside of the cult so as to deliver the tech. I think that is a fine purpose as long as you don’t start enforcing realities onto people the way the cult did and does.
http://backincomm.wordpress.com/201...-in-south-africa/comment-page-1/#comment-1711TRUTH on December 16, 2013 at 1:49 am said:
Hello Truth – thanks for stopping by. Your comment has been moderated as it violates our moderation policy – more specifically these points:
?This is not an “anti-SCN” or “anti-LRH” blog and as such we reserve the right to moderate any comment intended purely to offend those users who still consider themselves Scientologists. There are many “hate” blogs and websites extolling disdain for all things SCN and LRH – this is not one of them.
?We reserve the right to moderate comments that contain profanity, anti-religious speech (any religion) and violence (or threats thereof).
Many people visiting this blog still practice the technology of L Ron Hubbard outside of the Church, and they consider themselves to be Scientologists. Your comment therefore, was inappropriate in its content as you were clearly knocking both the religion and the founder.
scnafrica on December 16, 2013 at 5:41 pm said:
We received an email from someone taking exception to a particular paragraph in this post. We mostly agreed to the sentiment. We were asked to remove the offending paragraph when we declined but we are posting the email exchange to the objection and our response is on the public record:
__________
?I loved your blog and read it every day until today.
I am under the radar and XXXXXXXXX [edited for privacy]
If you truly mean to be inclusive of all sides, then this one paragraph contradicts your intention. It is an attack and offensive to many, whether they let you know about it or not. It manifests intense hate whether or not you realize that you harbor it.
Those that remain in the Church are not Scientologists – they are simply members of David Miscavige’s church. Perhaps they could be called Miscavologists for want of a better description. And they are welcome to it.
___________
Thank you very much for this. Your point is well taken. We have built this blog on the idea of inclusion and tolerance and similar ideals. I agree with what you are saying – it seems the frustration and anger does sometimes make its way to the surface.
We appreciate your interest and hope you will continue to visit regularly!
___________
Ok, then remove that paragraph from your article.
___________
It has to stand as that is what was said. Would you post your thoughts as a comment?