Money hungry book sales

[dt2000]

Just got an email from Bridge Publications (attached below)...

They are trying to sell out all of the old Key to Life books as I am sure the "new and improved" ones are scheduled to be released soon

So basically "here buy these books NOW so we can get some money for them before we need to make you buy the new ones in a few months!!!!"

Right now we have a few full sets of the Key to Life study reference books availabledirectly from Bridge (normally they are just sold with the course, but we have okayto sell these to you at a greatly reduced price).

These books are invaluable references to have at hand, whether you are an auditor, school teacher, house mom, etc., these books will help in any study or education environment!

Here is a short description of each and pictures of the inside book/illustrations:

THE NEW GRAMMAR BOOK

LRH researched the subject of grammar and isolated the
exact basics to enable anyone to learn and effectively use
this subject. Gone are the complexities and false data
that have plagued grammar for many years.

With The New Grammar, it is possible to greatly improve
one’s ability to communicate to others and understand
others’ communications to him.

Illustrated Hardcover, 607 pages.

SMALL COMMON WORDS DEFINED

It is the small, common words that are most often
misunderstood and form a major barrier to understanding. In
this book, more than 3,000 illustrations clearly show each
definition of the most common words in English. A unique
method of providing a firm understanding of the basic building
blocks of the language.

Illustrated Hardcover, 750 pages.

HOW TO USE A DICTIONARY PICTURE BOOK

Using a dictionary is something people often take for granted.
But few have ever been shown exactly how to gain all the
benefits a dictionary can provide or how to use it efficiently.
This illustrated and easy-to-understand text explains proper
dictionary usage to both young students and adults, giving
them this vitally needed skill.

Illustrated Hardcover, 263 pages.

ORDER INFORMATION

Previously only available for in the Key to Life course package for $1,250, now you can get them all for a separate package for only $375 (and this includes FedEx shipping to anywhere around the world).

The package for all 3 education books is $375 USD total and this includes all shipping & handling.

To order, call any one of the following numbers:

Direct Order Line: (323) 899-1034
Bridge Reception: (800) 722-1733 or (323) 953-3320

Or order on-line using our secure order site here:

http://www.lrh-books.com/order_mult.php?item=dict,small_common,new_grammar

Limited sets have been available to be sold on this basis, so I urge you to contact
us right away to order your own!

 

[Tiger Lily]

I remember the release of KTL. Remember how super-secret those books were? I don't remember the specifics but I remember stuff about how powerful this course was, and you had to go in a specific order or you'd get caved in, and the books had to stay at the Org under lock and key . . .

Now they're clearing them out to anyone who's willing to pay for them. Maybe the course maybe wasn't so full of "liquid lightening" as they said?

-TL

 

[Dulloldfart]

None of the KTL materials were ever really confidential apart from the Clay Table EPs. Hubbard made it a High Crime to deliver part(s) of the KTL Course as separate items, and I think this suffered some kind of law or definition creep, i.e. it's illegal to open a KTL book if you're not on the course.

If THEY want to get you, they will get you. So if you're a KTL sup, and you let anyone look at the small words dictionary, for instance, then you are laying yourself open to being charged with that High Crime. It doesn't apply, but as we all know, truth and logic and rationality are not usually factors, except by coincidence, in the Findings and Recs of a Comm Ev. Plus the org staff would want people to pay for and do the KTL/LOC line-up, and if anyone can see the books anytime they want, then that carrot disappears.

When I was suping at ITO, and even when KTL was being piloted in NWC, if someone was desperate and couldn't clear up one of those small words from a regular dictionary, they were allowed to use the KTL one. But it was rare.

Having said all that, I think that thick heavy Small Common Words dictionary is wonderful for defining those words. You can find a few definitions that aren't in it, but almost all of them are, and they are very well written. Whoever did it. I don't think it was Hubbard - too much research and work involved.

Paul

 

[exscilon]

I once received a call from Bridge Publications. They tried hard-selling me one of LRH's science fiction books. Never had any interest in those sci-fi books though and the call really irked me.

 

[Telepathetic]

None of the KTL materials were ever really confidential apart from the Clay Table EPs. Hubbard made it a High Crime to deliver part(s) of the KTL Course as separate items, and I think this suffered some kind of law or definition creep, i.e. it's illegal to open a KTL book if you're not on the course.

If THEY want to get you, they will get you. So if you're a KTL sup, and you let anyone look at the small words dictionary, for instance, then you are laying yourself open to being charged with that High Crime. It doesn't apply, but as we all know, truth and logic and rationality are not usually factors, except by coincidence, in the Findings and Recs of a Comm Ev. Plus the org staff would want people to pay for and do the KTL/LOC line-up, and if anyone can see the books anytime they want, then that carrot disappears.

When I was suping at ITO, and even when KTL was being piloted in NWC, if someone was desperate and couldn't clear up one of those small words from a regular dictionary, they were allowed to use the KTL one. But it was rare.

Having said all that, I think that thick heavy Small Common Words dictionary is wonderful for defining those words. You can find a few definitions that aren't in it, but almost all of them are, and they are very well written. Whoever did it. I don't think it was Hubbard - too much research and work involved.

Paul

I suffered through this course. I saw many people break down doing it. I think though, that it was one of the better things I did in Scientology.

I have the books and I agree with you,it is very helpfull when clearing small common words or if you have a question regarding punctuation or grammer. It's easy to use.

TP

 

[All Wrong Hubbard]

The "How to Use a Dictionary" book is 263 pages long!

With illustrations!!!

What is wrong with these people??

AWH

 

[Megalomaniac]

I suffered through this course. I saw many people break down doing it. I think though, that it was one of the better things I did in Scientology.

I have the books and I agree with you,it is very helpfull when clearing small common words or if you have a question regarding punctuation or grammer. It's easy to use.

TP

It was my favorite course in Scientology. Great books. But, you might want to wait until they are on ebay.

 

[Dulloldfart]

It was my favorite course in Scientology. Great books. But, you might want to wait until they are on ebay.

The KTL books have been on eBay for years. It used to be that they would sell for more than the $375 Bridge is asking for a set. I haven't checked prices of KTL books in the past year or so.

Paul

 

[Zinjifar]

The KTL books have been on eBay for years. It used to be that they would sell for more than the $375 Bridge is asking for a set. I haven't checked prices of KTL books in the past year or so.

Paul

Only one I see right now, at least looking under Scientology Key to Life:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Key-To-Life-Cou...8|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

It's not unlikely that others exist as part of other auctions or labeled differently.

Zinj

 

[Tiger Lily]

None of the KTL materials were ever really confidential apart from the Clay Table EPs. Hubbard made it a High Crime to deliver part(s) of the KTL Course as separate items, and I think this suffered some kind of law or definition creep, i.e. it's illegal to open a KTL book if you're not on the course.

If THEY want to get you, they will get you. So if you're a KTL sup, and you let anyone look at the small words dictionary, for instance, then you are laying yourself open to being charged with that High Crime. It doesn't apply, but as we all know, truth and logic and rationality are not usually factors, except by coincidence, in the Findings and Recs of a Comm Ev. Plus the org staff would want people to pay for and do the KTL/LOC line-up, and if anyone can see the books anytime they want, then that carrot disappears.

When I was suping at ITO, and even when KTL was being piloted in NWC, if someone was desperate and couldn't clear up one of those small words from a regular dictionary, they were allowed to use the KTL one. But it was rare.

Having said all that, I think that thick heavy Small Common Words dictionary is wonderful for defining those words. You can find a few definitions that aren't in it, but almost all of them are, and they are very well written. Whoever did it. I don't think it was Hubbard - too much research and work involved.

Paul

Don't know why I remember such secrecy then. It was a while ago though.

I remember being surprised by that too (they'd let us use Small common words book in the courseroom). It's ironic, it was when I was on Google looking for a copy of that book to buy that I ran across a post by an ex-staffer I knew and began my road out).

I actually bought that book, and it is one of the few Scn related books I didn't put away. I agree, it's very useful.

-TL

 

[sallydannce]

None of the KTL materials were ever really confidential apart from the Clay Table EPs. Hubbard made it a High Crime to deliver part(s) of the KTL Course as separate items, and I think this suffered some kind of law or definition creep, i.e. it's illegal to open a KTL book if you're not on the course.

If THEY want to get you, they will get you. So if you're a KTL sup, and you let anyone look at the small words dictionary, for instance, then you are laying yourself open to being charged with that High Crime. It doesn't apply, but as we all know, truth and logic and rationality are not usually factors, except by coincidence, in the Findings and Recs of a Comm Ev. Plus the org staff would want people to pay for and do the KTL/LOC line-up, and if anyone can see the books anytime they want, then that carrot disappears.

When I was suping at ITO, and even when KTL was being piloted in NWC, if someone was desperate and couldn't clear up one of those small words from a regular dictionary, they were allowed to use the KTL one. But it was rare.

Having said all that, I think that thick heavy Small Common Words dictionary is wonderful for defining those words. You can find a few definitions that aren't in it, but almost all of them are, and they are very well written. Whoever did it. I don't think it was Hubbard - too much research and work involved.

Paul

Yes you have this right. The clay-table EPs were the only confidential part of KTL. The materials however came under some vague system which made them "to be used only in the course rooms". You could own a set if you had done the course. This was done, in an attempt here to be fair, to possibly try to keep the whole thing per what Hubbard wrote.

As far as I recall the KTL materials were strictly forbidden to be sold to a person not enrolled on the KTL course i.e. buying the course. I suspect that was an arbitrary - or another sure way to haul in more money.

"It's a package, a package you hear!"

There are 2 policies on the KTL in OEC Vol 4:

1. Hubbard Key to Life Course High Crime (released 11 April, 1990) where he talks about it being a high crime to deliver the course if one has not successfully completed it first. And the concept of not taking aspects of his KTL course and using them separately. It's gotta to be done as he laid it out.

2. The other PL is Delivering the Hubbard Key to Life Course The Chicken and Egg Theory which covers the "you gotta do it first before you deliver it" theory more.

Neither of these talk about how to sell the materials. Or who could use them to look up a few words.

Hubbard's instructions were quite vague.

I notice in the email from Bridge it says:

(normally they are just sold with the course, but we have okay to sell these to you at a greatly reduced price).

Guess the rules have changed. Ha ha, maybe I can finally go buy me set. Nah, forget it! Don't want them now! I did KTL while I was on staff and I agree, the small common words dictionary, though far too heavy for me to cope with in every day use, was great. God how much did that book weigh? You could kill a cat with that thing. Drop it on your foot and you needed medical attention.

 

[Nicki]

I got the email too..I'm so sick of the constant selling, regging, etc......and I'm "guilty" of it too.

Just got an email from Bridge Publications (attached below)...

They are trying to sell out all of the old Key to Life books as I am sure the "new and improved" ones are scheduled to be released soon

So basically "here buy these books NOW so we can get some money for them before we need to make you buy the new ones in a few months!!!!"

 

[Kookaburra]

Don't know why I remember such secrecy then. It was a while ago though.

I remember being surprised by that too (they'd let us use Small common words book in the courseroom). It's ironic, it was when I was on Google looking for a copy of that book to buy that I ran across a post by an ex-staffer I knew and began my road out).

I actually bought that book, and it is one of the few Scn related books I didn't put away. I agree, it's very useful.

-TL

TL, you are not dreaming. I also remember this soooper sooooper seeekrit KTL course. The books were shown as a sealed package, otherwise, as you say, under lock and key and no-one was allowed to see them. No-one could know what the course was about. And everyone in the SO had to do it right now, now , now or else you'd be FB'd out. I got bulldozed onto it despite being smack in the middle of another action. It supposedly handled this huge chunk of abberation caused by the English language. What F*@*&*@g BS! The bloody thing was intolerable and took forever and ever and ever and on and on and on and I got so f*&@#*& sick I actually physically collapsed and that was the final straw for me in Scn and the SO. I was outa there. Gawd what a horrible experience. I wouldn't wish KTL on my worst enemy!

 

[Tiger Lily]

TL, you are not dreaming. I also remember this soooper sooooper seeekrit KTL course. The books were shown as a sealed package, otherwise, as you say, under lock and key and no-one was allowed to see them. No-one could know what the course was about. And everyone in the SO had to do it right now, now , now or else you'd be FB'd out. I got bulldozed onto it despite being smack in the middle of another action. It supposedly handled this huge chunk of abberation caused by the English language. What F*@*&*@g BS! The bloody thing was intolerable and took forever and ever and ever and on and on and on and I got so f*&@#*& sick I actually physically collapsed and that was the final straw for me in Scn and the SO. I was outa there. Gawd what a horrible experience. I wouldn't wish KTL on my worst enemy!

Whew! Thanks Kookaburra! And Oh! I wanted that course!! They sold it as a cure for all the aberration caused by our 1.1 educational system. I guess I can be glad I wasn't "upstat" enough to pay for it!

TL

-TL

 

[AngryGayPope]

I can't believe they charge so much for common knowledge

It's one thing to charge a lot of money for the "custom BS" Scientology made up, like body thetans, that you can only get from them. But to charge so much for stuff that can be found in any library? Absurd!

 

[Dulloldfart]

It's one thing to charge a lot of money for the "custom BS" Scientology made up, like body thetans, that you can only get from them. But to charge so much for stuff that can be found in any library? Absurd!

Are you referring to the KTL books? The grammar book is fairly routine, although it is simple to use. I haven't seen a comparable "How to use a dictionary" book, possibly because most people think it is superfluous. The other one you won't find in any library, nothing close to it.

They are also oversize books, HUGE, with heavy glossy pages, a tremendous waste of resources and a strain on the fingers to pick up, and that $375 price is probably less than you would pay for books of a comparable, um, weight.

Of course, pdf copies would be much better. (I'm not going to be doing them.)

Paul

 

[Alanzo]

Are you referring to the KTL books? The grammar book is fairly routine, although it is simple to use. I haven't seen a comparable "How to use a dictionary" book, possibly because most people think it is superfluous. The other one you won't find in any library, nothing close to it.

They are also oversize books, HUGE, with heavy glossy pages, a tremendous waste of resources and a strain on the fingers to pick up, and that $375 price is probably less than you would pay for books of a comparable, um, weight.

Of course, pdf copies would be much better. (I'm not going to be doing them.)

Paul

The KTL books I paid for were $5,000.

Weren't they?

Or was that what the whole course cost - with the books?

 

[Kha Khan]

TL, you are not dreaming. I also remember this soooper sooooper seeekrit KTL course. The books were shown as a sealed package, otherwise, as you say, under lock and key and no-one was allowed to see them. No-one could know what the course was about.

I recall this was very true in the beginning, but dissipated and was at the very least ignored or not enforced, if not formally revoked, over time. In the beginning, it was VERY secret. Hence, the requirement of the separate course room. Yes, sealed packages. Don't you dare even think of looking in that room.

KTL was special. As noted above, separate course room. Separate, and separately trained and qualed course supervisors.

Think of it. In the Hubbard system, course supervisors are not "teachers" because the materials teach themselves, and of course the course supervisors can't explain anything. Verbal tech.

How convenient and economical. That means course supervisors need not (and usually are not) qualified to actually perform the duties or functions of any of the courses they are "not teaching." Supervise a Class IV student despite the fact that one has not completed Pro TRs? No problem.

Think of the confidence it would inspire if you found out that while in medical school your medical doctor was "supervised" (but of course was not "taught") not by licensed physicians, but only by individuals who had undergraduate degrees in education.

Now imagine that the only people who "supervised" (but of course did not "teach") your medical doctor didn't even have undergraduate degrees in education, but were instead high school drop outs who had completed the (insta-Hat) mini Course Supervisor's Course.

Yes, that is the person I want diagnosing me.

Your Div 2 course sup can supervise anything at your Class V org.

Except KTL and LOC.