Gadfly
Crusader
A response to "Many people on this Board say that LRH policy also says that those wanting to leave are Degraded Beings. I do not remember hearing that. "
This is definitely pushed. For me personally, I first heard about it in reference to Ex SO. But this eventually also got used on anyone who routed off of staff. There is a reference out there, I think a F.O. written by hubbard that the only reason people leave the S.O. is that they are DB’s. Which I find interesting. Are you aware of how SO live their lives? The SO lives that I saw were degraded, bunk beds stacked 4-5 beds high, SO not having enough money to wash their laundry, the dirty, unmaintained quarters (despite all the white gloves) the mess hall, etc. I think, for the most part, that the life of an SO member is degraded.
There is definately a held view point that if you leave SO (and sometimes staff) you are a degraded being.
Yes, it is definitely in a Flag Order (FO). I am not sure of the title. Does anyone know, is there a source to download all or many of the Flag Orders anywhere on the Internet?
The same issue pushed the idea that ANY ex-Sea Org member may never be employed by any Church organization again. Why? Because he or she MUST be a DB, and would obviously screw up whatever job he or she was doing! Of course, I could never understand how members don't wonder, "gee, I am not a DB when I am in, but I suddenly become a DB when I go out, how does that make any sense?" Applying common sense to Church behavior is NOT exactly encouraged very much in the Church environment.
Hubbard constantly pushes the idea in the EPF (newbie Sea Org member training corps - Estates Project Force) that the Sea Org is THE ELITE. He states in some Flag Order that "any Sea Org member would be lionized just by walking into any Class IV Org". It never made sense to me when I was in the Sea Org. I remember watching these entirely untrained 15 years old CMO chicks walking around spouting off orders to people, with no understanding, often with "egos-a-plenty", and deserving of no respect in my universe. But, somehow, these CMO twits were "the elite", well because LRH says so. It still kills me how much nonsense members accept as true and believe just because Hubbard asserts it as true.
"LRH said it, therefore it MUST be right!" How droll. But members think with that idea day after day, week after week, and year after year.
I know a few younger people who left the Sea Org, and both went through a few years of inner pain and turmoil, mentally tossing and turning about how they "must be degraded, and possibly suppressive". Members internalize all this shit they are fed, think with it, and they often drive themselves quite crazy with deep self-criticism and constant self-questioning regarding ones worth and value as a human being. That Scientology creates that mindset and eventual mental turmoil is unquestionable. And of course, when one tries to leave by routing out on standard lines, you are bombarded with the viewpoint that the ONLY reason you could possibly want to leave is because something MUST be wrong with YOU! Either you are a DB, PTS, out-ethics, have missed withholds, have hidden undisclosed overts, are an SP, and so forth. It is entirely rigged against YOU, and for LRH and the Church organization. The idea that there actually might be something wrong with the Church that one might want to get away from is entirely unacceptable and disallowed as a thought.
The C of S involves SEVERE forms of indoctrination and mind control. That is why so many people have a real hard time when he or she leaves. Their minds are FILLED with the shit the Scientology indoctrination experience filled them with.
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