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Yvonne was one Helluva attractive woman.,
From a 2007 ESMB post by Alan Walter, a student on the Class Eight course on the ship, recounting the overboarding of Julia Salmen:
The scene with overboarding on the Original Class VIII Course was if an auditor did not get an F/N on their pc at examiner - they were thrown overboard.
We would line up on the well-deck in the morning at 8.00 am - LRH would look down from the deck above and announce who would be thrown overboard.
He was surrounded by his Aides. Also he was recording all of this on camera....
I remember looking up at them - I was staring into the face of sheer madness and evil.
Usually 8 to 10 people were thrown overboard each morning.
It was about a 30 foot drop into a filthy feces laden water from the other ships and the Apollo directly releasing their sewage into the channel...
This was October 1968.
....Ron had Julia Salmen thrown overboard... terribly overweight and could not swim.
The people who threw her overboard struggled to get her over the side; she was terrified; she kept crying out "I cannot swim!" On her way down she hit the side of the ship - I could hear her screams - it was obvious she was injured and drowning.
The people on the deck all stood around too afraid to do anything. Fearing to originate any action less the become the target of LRH's displeasure.
I ran and jumped over the side and rescued her. I then pulled her over to the ladder that led up to the ground level of the dock........it was about 20 feet straight up. She could not climb the steps. I had my shoulders under her butt pushing her up..... no one still had come to help.......but at the top of that ladder stood LRH filming us.....such evil.......
Anyway after an immense struggle with Julia's help I was able to push her up to the top of the ladder....finally some help arrived.
Over the years the unthinkable thought pushed forward more and more....it was "that I observe that LRH was demonic at that time." I did not want to know that, did not want to believe that.......that was too incredible to be believed - even for me - I did the usual make nothing of myself.... "you're seeing things," "what do you know," "you've got overts" - much easier to blame self than confront what is.
Hmmm..... now let's see.... here we have Yvonne - that's the lady "in her best years" on the right side:
And here we have Terri, her daughter - on the right side too:
I don't know why I would choose Terri.... maybe all-knowing-Ron has an answer ?
No, young feller, you're sadly mistaken...1) That Pic is Not of Yvonne during her "Best Years" (which you apparently judge through your own personal lense based upon poorly shot amateur photos from 4 decades ago)...2) What makes a women truely attractive cannot be copletely shown, conveyed or revealed in ANY photo.
No, young feller, you're sadly mistaken...That Pic is Not of Yvonne during her "Best Years" (which you apparently judge through your own personal lense based upon nothing more than 2 poorly shot amateur photos from 4 decades ago of a mother in her 50's and her daughter in her late teen's. Also, a large part of what makes a women truely attractive cannot be copletely show, conveyed or revealed in ANY photo.
No, young feller, you're sadly mistaken...That Pic is Not of Yvonne during her "Best Years" (which you apparently judge through your own personal lense based upon nothing more than 2 poorly shot amateur photos from 4 decades ago of a mother in her 50's and her daughter in her late teen's. Also, a large part of what makes a women truely attractive cannot be completely shown, conveyed or revealed in ANY photo.
No, young feller, you're sadly mistaken...That Pic is Not of Yvonne during her "Best Years" (which you apparently judge through your own personal lense based upon nothing more than 2 poorly shot amateur photos from 4 decades ago of a mother in her 50's and her daughter in her late teen's. Also, a large part of what makes a women truely attractive cannot be completely shown, conveyed or revealed in ANY photo.
Hmmm..... now let's see.... here we have Yvonne - that's the lady "in her best years" on the right side:
And here we have Terri, her daughter - on the right side too:
I don't know why I would choose Terri.... maybe all-knowing-Ron has an answer ?[/QUOT
Terri looks more like Peter ( Gillham) than Yvonne.
What used to define a true artist, was the ability to capture a sense of the essence of a person and convey it in a painting or sculpture, something which (as you note) cannot be done from just a photo (although there are photographic artists who can come very close)
I was always an "observer" around Yvonne. I stayed away from her from the time I went to one of her lectures at the San Francisco Org. At that lecture, she did an exercise with the audience based on the Tone Scale. Yvonne actually had the audience 'doing' the Tone Scale from the Top down, rather than from the Bottom up. Can you imagine where that left the peeps? Set a bunch of 'em up for the Reg cycle, for sure).
I simply never trusted Yvonne after that. I didn't feel that her interest was in making peeps feel better, but to push them down into Apathy, or worse, so that they would buy services.
That was just me. Everyone else loved her.
Beautiful.... but farouche.... bewitching... and dangerous.You got that. My wife is no longer the slim girl with the perky breasts that I first met over 35 years ago, but I still find her beautiful.
Here's some pics of Yvonne in her younger days:
So do you want to confess that you are slightly prejudiced concerning the case "Yvonne or Terri" ?.....
I might well have not continued very far into Scn and most certainly would have not joined the SO/Flag Crew if it had not been for my interactions, impressions of and relationship with Yvonne.
Beautiful.... but farouche.... bewitching... and dangerous.
So to find an answer why I still prefer Terri I held today an OT57-session where I asked my remaining BT´s about that matter. The democratic result was unanimous:
"Because she is already perfectly trained to act as a delightful servant for older men"
Hmmm.... this is an argument which has to be accepted.....
So do you want to confess that you are slightly prejudiced concerning the case "Yvonne or Terri" ?
Oh well...
This is when $cientology threads become interesting...
How many young guys '" full of testoterone''' would stay in this cult if there as no siren to destroy any resistance of the soul....
You guys are cute!
Oh well...
This is when $cientology threads become interesting...
How many young guys '" full of testoterone''' would stay in this cult if there as no siren to destroy any resistance of the soul....
You guys are cute!
OYE EFFEN VEY, Lotus...OYE EFFEN VEY!
I was a 'young guy' when I was a scientologist and staff member, but it wasn't the sirens that drew me in and kept me there, it was Hubbard's empty promises. Having said that, there were some lovely ladies around, and they made up for the lousy pay and the long hours
You ladies aren't too bad either!