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CommunicatorIC

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3:12 We in the Nation of Islam is getting ready to go to war with suppressive personalities. Wherever the SP is, and I'm saying to the members of the Church of Scientology, we in the Nation of Islam will confront them wherever we find them.

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TG1

Angelic Poster
It's hard not to appreciate the irony of this situation -- of the CoS in spiritual domination over the NOI:

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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

[video=youtube_share;5H-uM40MLwE]http://youtu.be/5H-uM40MLwE[/video]

Some impressions.

The NOI is making Dianetics and, yes, Scientology, their own.

If DM and the COS think they can control the NOI, or control the NOI's implementation and application of Dianetics and Scientology, they are in for a rude awakening.

If DM and the COS think the Members of the Nation are going to abandon their religion for Scientology they, you guessed it, are in for a rude awakening.

The following YouTube channel is worthy of review: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJandar111

YMMV

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Not surprising. Long term, the NoI will NOT follow orders from a bunch of white non-Muslims.
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

Not surprising. Long term, the NoI will NOT follow orders from a bunch of white non-Muslims.

While I take your point and think you are probably correct - let us not forget that members of NoI are in a cult that is every bit as controlling and insane as Scientology - Farrakhan's trips to the "mothership" are very reminiscent of Hubbard's visits to Heaven.

As members of a controlling cult predicting what the members will or will not do has to take into account what they are TOLD to do by their leadership.

Look how many idiots did the OT levels in Scientology and not only paid for that but went on to give even more money for nothing!!!
 

Xenu's Boyfriend

Silver Meritorious Patron
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3:12 We in the Nation of Islam is getting ready to go to war with suppressive personalities. Wherever the SP is, and I'm saying to the members of the Church of Scientology, we in the Nation of Islam will confront them wherever we find them.

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I haven't been following this thread enough, and I'm going to go back and read everything.

I find this clip absolutely horrifying - NOI talking about Scientology and SP's? This feels like something that a writer would dream up - a nightmare scenario.

I blame Tom Cruise and Will and Jada Pinkett Smith for this.

Tom Cruise has courted a friendship with the "Smiths" (Will is the black Tom Cruise) to infiltrate the black community. Will and Jada have spent millions furthering Scientology and LRH's study techniques are used in the school they opened. This feels so cynical and false - CoS doesn't give a shit about black people - but money, whether it comes from black or white hands, is green. And the black middle class has more of it.

This makes me sick to my stomach.
 

TG1

Angelic Poster
XB, the CoS doesn't give a shit about white people either.

Except for David Miscavige, who happens to be white.

TG1
 

Lone Star

Crusader
I haven't been following this thread enough, and I'm going to go back and read everything.

I find this clip absolutely horrifying - NOI talking about Scientology and SP's? This feels like something that a writer would dream up - a nightmare scenario.

I blame Tom Cruise and Will and Jada Pinkett Smith for this.

Tom Cruise has courted a friendship with the "Smiths" (Will is the black Tom Cruise) to infiltrate the black community. Will and Jada have spent millions furthering Scientology and LRH's study techniques are used in the school they opened. This feels so cynical and false - CoS doesn't give a shit about black people - but money, whether it comes from black or white hands, is green. And the black middle class has more of it.

This makes me sick to my stomach.

The courtship between the CoS and NoI has been going on for decades. TC and Will Smith played no role. Most black people don't have any regard for Calypso Louie and his army of bow ties.
 

secretiveoldfag

Silver Meritorious Patron
I haven't been following this thread enough, and I'm going to go back and read everything.

I find this clip absolutely horrifying - NOI talking about Scientology and SP's? This feels like something that a writer would dream up - a nightmare scenario.

I blame Tom Cruise and Will and Jada Pinkett Smith for this.

Tom Cruise has courted a friendship with the "Smiths" (Will is the black Tom Cruise) to infiltrate the black community. Will and Jada have spent millions furthering Scientology and LRH's study techniques are used in the school they opened. This feels so cynical and false - CoS doesn't give a shit about black people - but money, whether it comes from black or white hands, is green. And the black middle class has more of it.

This makes me sick to my stomach.

It's time this story was written up and spread around more.

Will Smith as well. He and his kids have been used as a poster-family by CoS in attempts to recruit in the Caribbean; the magazine I saw was designed for Santa Domingo. Argument is: Study Tech makes even poor black kids smart, rich and famous.

That made me sick to my stomach.

Mr Smith visited Brixton in London the other day and smiled at all the poor little black kids there. They loved it. Whadya bet TWTH is the next gift to Brixton? As it has been in Colombia and Aruba? Dorry, I know this is tending off topic but it seems CoS is targetting black people wherever they find them.

But I don't believe it will work out (whatever they are planning) for any of those involved. Hubbard was not a great benefactor of mankind, sorry, Louie.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
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3:12 We in the Nation of Islam is getting ready to go to war with suppressive personalities. Wherever the SP is, and I'm saying to the members of the Church of Scientology, we in the Nation of Islam will confront them wherever we find them.

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This sounds like DM has found his thug enforcers.
 

Mick Wenlock

Admin Emeritus (retired)
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

Ooh. I missed those. Does he mention them on a video somewhere? I know about the motherplane but didn't know Farrakhan said he has visited.

Paul

well I think that inside the cult its referred to as "The Wheel" it may well be that the term "Mothership" is just something us SPs use...

"In October 1989, at a press conference in Washington, DC, Farrakhan described a 1985 vision which he had in the country of Mexico. He was carried up to "a Wheel, or what you call an unidentified flying object", as in the Bible's Book of Ezekiel. During this vision, he heard the voice of Elijah Muhammad, the long-time leader of the Nation of Islam (1934–1975).["
 

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

well I think that inside the cult its referred to as "The Wheel" it may well be that the term "Mothership" is just something us SPs use...

"In October 1989, at a press conference in Washington, DC, Farrakhan described a 1985 vision which he had in the country of Mexico. He was carried up to "a Wheel, or what you call an unidentified flying object", as in the Bible's Book of Ezekiel. During this vision, he heard the voice of Elijah Muhammad, the long-time leader of the Nation of Islam (1934–1975).["

Alien technology that turns on "sonic" recall. Wow! Now were these marcabians or galactic federation aliens? Perhaps it was Captain Bill or ElRon Ray?

LF, just another victim of alien abduction... Oh my, how wicked these aliens are.
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

well I think that inside the cult its referred to as "The Wheel" it may well be that the term "Mothership" is just something us SPs use...

"In October 1989, at a press conference in Washington, DC, Farrakhan described a 1985 vision which he had in the country of Mexico. He was carried up to "a Wheel, or what you call an unidentified flying object", as in the Bible's Book of Ezekiel. During this vision, he heard the voice of Elijah Muhammad, the long-time leader of the Nation of Islam (1934–1975).["

Thanks very much.

Visions are sneaky, in that a person could tell others about such an event and not be considered as, shall we say "different," as someone insisting on an actual alien abduction.

Paul
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Nation of Islam Minister of Health endorses Church of Scientology Harlem Org


Dr. Alim Muhammad is the Minister of Health and Human Services of the Nation of Islam.


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HT: http://www.facebook.com/groups/ScientologyInvasion.of.the.BlackCommunity/permalink/430969833651164/


Dr. Abul Alim Muhammad is the Minister of Health and Human Services of the Nation of Islam:

Dr. Abdul Alim Muhammad is a native of York, Pennsylvania where he was born,raised and attended public schools. He was a star athlete in track and field, a National Merit Scholar, an actor, an accomplished poet and a musician. His involvement in civil and human rights struggles began at the age of six when he attended a NAACP convention in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

On academic scholarship, he attended Antioch College in Yellow Springs, Ohio and graduated with a degree in Biology in 1971. In 1975, he graduated from Case Western Reserve School of Medicine and spent the next five years in training at Harlem Hospital in New York to become a General Surgeon.

He has held several teaching positions at various medical centers and universities but pursuing his interest in community-based alternative medicine, he founded the Abundant Life Clinic in 1986. He is best known for his clinical research in HIV/AIDS and is a pioneer in the use of Kemron for the treatment of HIV disease.

Dr. Alim Muhammad has been the focus of innumerable newspaper, magazine, radio and TV features over the years and is invited to give lectures and participate in forums and conferences all over the world which has contributed to his travel to more than 36 countries.

He points to one simple fact as the impetus to his accomplishments--that he became a member of the Nation of Islam in 1968. His sincere effort to follow the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and now the Honorable Louis Farrakhan has bolstered his rise through the ranks of the Nation of Islam and laid the foundation for his success. He was named an assistant Minister in 1973, Minister of Muhammad Mosque No. 4 (Washington, DC) in 1981, appointed the National Spokesman for the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan in 1988 and named the Nation of Islam's first Minister of Health and Human Services in 1992.

Dr. Alim's current goals include the development of a National Healthcare Plan that will not only elevate the health status of Blacks, but also improve the economic conditions of urban communities' nation-wide. Not limited to national boundaries, Dr. Alim seeks to organize an international relief movement whose mission is to alleviate human suffering all over the world. Although these goals are formidable, his approach is distinct. Ask those who work with him who often hear him say, "Compassion, not greed, is the motivating force behind what we do!"

Code:
http://www.noispeakersbureau.org/AbdulAlimMuhammad.html

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CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Nation of Islam Minister of Health endorses Dianetics and Scientolgy Admin Tech


Dr. Alim Muhammad is the Minister of Health and Human Services of the Nation of Islam.


Note, they also made "How to Eat to Live" (Book 1; Book 2) into a game, including "flash answers." Sound familiar?

12:34: "In the future, any Laborer in the Nation of Islam has to go Clear, you have to be Clear, you have to be a Dianetic Clear. So then what are you waiting for? Are you Clear yet? Ok, then what are you waiting for? Why are you holdng back? Who is holding you back?"

[video=youtube_share;D_31oyCndxA]http://youtu.be/D_31oyCndxA[/video]

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CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
"The marriage between the Church of Scientology and the Nation of Islam."

Fascinating blend of theologies.

Basically, the thesis is that Scientology makes Whites not devils anymore.

0:20: "Minister Farrakhan announced out at the Celebrity Centre International in Hollywood, he announced at that gala in 2009 the marriage between the Church of Scientology and the Nation of Islam."

4:48: "Now we further believe, although we can't prove it, we believe that [Master Fard Muhammad] met L. Ron Hubbard."

7:17: "I just finished TRs and Objectives."

[He went exterior.]

8:07: "I think I'll go the rest of the way over the Bridge. And I intend to do that."

10:34: "There is a hint in our teaching -- I don't have time to go into it tonight -- that perhaps there was a kind of processing that was done in the Caucuses [i.e., to the white mother of Master Fard Muhammad] that produced a special kind of a person."

http://youtu.be/6ohB_hJa99I
 

TG1

Angelic Poster
OK, I'm calling bullshit.

I know we're supposed to be nice to noobs and what not.

But this bizarre stew of Nation of Islam and Scientology is beyond ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong. This thread has been educational. I've learned that when you put two cults together it gets much weirder than anyone could imagine, for instance:

* The Harlem Renaissance of the early 20th century was destroyed by psychs. So sorry, Billie Holiday.

* Pigs will never fly -- in the NOI's flying saucers.

* "We're not doing Scientology, we're just doing Dianetics!" Riiiiiight.

* Tory is a she-devil. OK, I'll give 'em that, but she's cute.

And so much more crap I never would've believed before this thread came along.

Bullshit!

TG1
 

Xenu's Boyfriend

Silver Meritorious Patron
It's time this story was written up and spread around more.

Will Smith as well. He and his kids have been used as a poster-family by CoS in attempts to recruit in the Caribbean; the magazine I saw was designed for Santa Domingo. Argument is: Study Tech makes even poor black kids smart, rich and famous.

That made me sick to my stomach.

Mr Smith visited Brixton in London the other day and smiled at all the poor little black kids there. They loved it. Whadya bet TWTH is the next gift to Brixton? As it has been in Colombia and Aruba? Dorry, I know this is tending off topic but it seems CoS is targetting black people wherever they find them.

But I don't believe it will work out (whatever they are planning) for any of those involved. Hubbard was not a great benefactor of mankind, sorry, Louie.


Thank you for this message SOF....one of the reasons I loved Andrew Morton's unauthorized biography of Tom Cruise was because it made me understand exactly how manipulative the cult can be. I think that book is underrated in the pantheon of anti-Scientology literature. Most people think it is a book about Tom and his movies, but as I recall, at least half of that book is about Scientology. It was through Morton's book that I understood why Cruise, at the level of OT VII/VIII would be on a serious recruiting mission. It was obvious from his wedding list: David and Victoria Beckham (enrollment in England and Europe), Jennifer Lopez (father Scientologist, but friendly with Cruise, she'll bring in the Latino contingent), Will and Jada Smith (blacks worldwide), Jim Carrey (who the fuck knows?), and on and on. Even his decision to make Valkyrie, which seemed like a weird choose at the time, was obvious a ploy to seduce German politicians who were against Scientology by playing one of their heroes.

It makes sense to me that a cult that looks for a person's individual ruin, would now prey, as it faces extinction, on a community's "ruin"; in other words, start marketing to the areas where people are depressed, or where there is joblessness and poverty. Somebody better give David Miscavige a head's up before more black people get there. I've said it before, they may get a few more blacks in the Sea Org, but I find it hard to believe that brothas, especially ones who have come from the street, are going to let COB slap the shit out of them for dropping a paper clip. DM tried it with Jesse Prince, tried to put him in the RPF after he wouldn't betray Pat and Annie Broeker, and when DM and his thugs came, Jesse got a gun, he got two in fact, and threaten to blow every motherfucker's brains out that was in the room. So, we'll see how that goes down.

Scientology, so far, has been a very white, very privileged organization. Poor people don't have a chance. You can go up The Bridge on food stamps, and Medicaid, whether you are black or white. So much for an organization that cares about people. I've never understood the logic- don't people in the organization realize that the planet will never be cleared if it costs tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars? None of it makes sense.

I am thankful for this thread. I never thought of NOI as a cult until now. Strange to think that Scientology would need credibility from NOI and not the other way around. But it seems like such a desperate marriage. A group that preaches about white devils, suddenly decides to court a church created by one of the biggest white devils of them all?

NOI COS OMG IMHO JHC WTF?
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
Re: Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

Nation of Islam Chinese School... and Squirreling

[video=youtube_share;5H-uM40MLwE]http://youtu.be/5H-uM40MLwE[/video]

Some impressions.

The NOI is making Dianetics and, yes, Scientology, their own.

If DM and the COS think they can control the NOI, or control the NOI's implementation and application of Dianetics and Scientology, they are in for a rude awakening.

If DM and the COS think the Members of the Nation are going to abandon their religion for Scientology they, you guessed it, are in for a rude awakening.

The following YouTube channel is worthy of review: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheJandar111

YMMV

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However, if Farrakhan is getting paid by the CofS (big upfront pay in the beginning and then kick-backs later) then my guess is that he will have to adhere to standard Dianetics & Scientology or suffer the consequences.

Also, I wonder if he has signed a contract with the CofS and what the conditions are. I am curious.
 

CommunicatorIC

@IndieScieNews on Twitter
Re: Nation of Islam Minister of Health endorses Church of Scientology Harlem Org

Rev. Alfreddie Johnson is neither Muslim nor a member of the Nation of Islam. Still, I'm going to put this here because it is obviously paired with the promotional poster (below) depicting Dr. Alim Muhammad, the Nation of Islam Minister of Health and Human Services.

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HT: http://www.facebook.com/groups/ScientologyInvasion.of.the.BlackCommunity/permalink/430969970317817/


Dr. Alim Muhammad is the Minister of Health and Human Services of the Nation of Islam.


549983_356808197771430_901178824_n.jpg


HT: http://www.facebook.com/groups/ScientologyInvasion.of.the.BlackCommunity/permalink/430969833651164/


Dr. Abul Alim Muhammad is the Minister of Health and Human Services of the Nation of Islam:



Code:
http://www.noispeakersbureau.org/AbdulAlimMuhammad.html

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