I have forgiven Narconon officials who have directly and indirectly affected my life. Why carry around all the hate until they finally fess up to what is already known? This is cult think: get all the overts and withholds before someone else tells you its okay to move up the conditions. It seems like that is what is expected. I disagree. If some individual thinks they have been personally harmed by these two then shoot them an email and find out. They will probably respond. I got one and have never met or spoken with them.
You are correct, my packaging was not good. "We" should be replaced with "I." Forgive or not at your own choosing. The point I was trying to relate is that its easier to work as a team than as a bunch of individuals.
I have absolutely no argument about how you relate to people and I assume that it's a really good thing for you that you changed your outlook and how you perceive those people. However I also think that it is a lot easier to do this when all the stuff that should be known is actually known -and preferably documented with evidence (you talk about stuff that is 'already known'). Wanting to 'find the overts' is not necessarily cult think, IMO unless the word 'overts' is used. If you see it that way I wouldn't argue because that's a matter of your own association of ideas. But knowing the facts is part of justice, part of redress, part of being able to process the experiences IMO. It is not always necessary to know it all, and it may be possible to move on with knowing very little, but I think that too is an individual matter. There are other things apart from dealing with one's own personal emotions too....such as having knowledge that will protect you in the future, and having knowledge to help others who are still being abused.
I don't know what M&M know or don't know but I think their past positions in the cult means that they have very very important information about the abuses of the cult. I don't know if they can or cannot tell what they know, or what the affects would be if they did. I also don't know if it can all just be dropped now and all the abused, and the courts are denied that information. And I don't see how ex scientologists should live in a bubble where announcements about forgiveness, moving on, are apparently adequate to deal with these things. What happens in other (non scio/exscio) situations of crime and abuse? Justice is decided in the courts - although I have to admit of course that it is not always just.