Well, I don't think I posted in any other thread here. I only signed up yesterday.
No, I don't know the org very well. I know how it used to be 28 years ago. I have never had a bad experience with Scientology, either inside or outside. I know a few people who were declared and departed (or the other way around), but they seem to be dealing with it well. I have heard some negative tales from them, but nothing that I would categorize as horror stories. The only negatives I know about are from forums like this, and from sites like Xenu...and I'm sorry, but I really need to take those with a grain of salt. To my perhaps hypercritical eye, they seem like overblown scaremongering. Some truth there, undoubtedly, but out of context and whipped up into a frenzy by people with an axe to grind and/or nothing better to do.
Having said all that, staying away from CofS seems like an excellent policy, one that I intend to continue. It has clearly turned into something other than what it was, other than what it was (supposedly) designed to be. I may not even bother with the tech any more, except perhaps the few minor concepts I absorbed all those years ago...ones that are hard to argue with, like the idea of people being responsible for their own condition.
Like I said before, though, I am looking for something, so I came back briefly to the subject (not the org) to see if I missed anything. The jury is still out...
None of this seems like anything a Scientologist would say, certainly not a churchie and probably not a true fz person either. If there was a way to prove it, I would do so...
Scott ("he", obviously)
Well that explains a lot actually.
But now you have me somewhat confused. You say you have little experience with Scientology yet and you have never had a bad experience but you're not a Scientologist. But then you say it's a good idea to stay away from Scientology after saying the horror stories others have been through is "overblown scaremongering". :confused2:
You have me completely lost here.
Being that you were in Scientology (as a public I take it?) for less than a full year, and not on staff. Is it possible others have been through exactly as they say?
You're making a judgement of others who were not only on staff but in the Sea Org and there for years. They being there to see many different phases of Scientology's "transformation".
Isn't that like asking the mother of a soldier what it's like to be in the military.
There is a huge separation from Sea Org members and public within Scientology. Most public have no clue what goes on in the Sea Org till someone talks or ever.
You've come into this subject with little experience and with the idea that the people who have experienced what happens in Scientology is BS. Only because you didn't experience it for yourself. Being that it is very possible you weren't there long enough to experience it yourself.
Don't the amount of people who agree on what happens in Scientology give what they say credit? Do you have to cut yourself to know that a knife will injure you?
Were you doing Scientology in a regular org or at a Sea Org united area (L.A., Clearwater)?
I'm sorry if you feel like I'm talking down to you. That is not the intention. But you have admitted you have very little experience in Scientology but you're willing to throw out what so many others have experienced for themselves.
If Scientology were as nice as what you experienced, do you think there'd be people like those you see here talking about their very bad experiences? What do you think would make them do such a thing?
How many sites have you seen from other exes of other religions?
The way Scientology works internally has brought all these people together to talk about their experiences. Most of them not good. Could they all be exaggerating?