New to group old timer though

[rickm]

I left the church and staff in the 80's (early 80's.) In the years since I have gotten more case gain than I ever got in Scientology even after the OT levels . . . at last on my own I was able to resolve what was never resolved in Scientology and although I found the OT levels beneficial at the time back in the 80's I now understand the actuality of the material and the (now obvious) errors as well. Case gain is regular now and stable as well but only once I realized the major error in the OT technology and why OT-5 and 7 go on and on with often no end in sight. I don't have any charge to share if that's the true purpose of this forum __not because I didn't have any then but because I got rid of it years ago. My charge nowadays is for those of you still hurting and if I can somehow help you I would be delighted.
If any of you are stuck and have no solution maybe I can help. This isn't about money because I ask for nothing in return but if there are enough of us __why should the dream die! Scientology owns no monopoly to the human mind soul and/or consciousness. The future is ours and the roads and possibilities are limitless __I truly believe this and hope some of you share this viewpoint and if so let me know too! __rickm

 

[RogerB]

Good post, Rick.

Nicely made points.

As you explore the history of posts here on ESMB, you'll find some wonderful stuff from guys like "Alan," "Dull old fart," DartShmohen, and also you'll likely be interested in the 2009 FZ presentation I did in Pasadena here:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...gative-RogerB%92s-FZ-Presentation-in-Pasadena


Rog

 

[WildKat]

Welcome Rick.

Let's not beat around the bush. What brand of salvation are you offering that is free?

In any case, maybe you can help this fellow over here? He's looking for free help. Apparently he lives in Egypt, don't know if that will be a barrier or not. It would be great if you can help him first. He is most in need.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?43616-In-Egyt

 

[rickm]

Welcome Rick.

Let's not beat around the bush. What brand of salvation are you offering that is free?

In any case, maybe you can help this fellow over here? He's looking for free help. Apparently he lives in Egypt, don't know if that will be a barrier or not. It would be great if you can help him first. He is most in need.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?43616-In-Egyt

Your introduction to me . . . sure seems as though you have mucho past track on help and money etc. etc. once you get that handled I will be delighted to respond . . . to sincerity. rickm

 

[JustSheila]

Your introduction to me . . . sure seems as though you have mucho past track on help and money etc. etc. once you get that handled I will be delighted to respond . . . to sincerity. rickm

You distilled all of that from just a couple of simple comments? And on top of that, assumed Wildcat has something "to be handled"?

That's a lot of reading into things and pretty imaginative inference. Wildcat sure seems fine to me, but maybe you should just stay with actual statements and facts and not get carried away with your imagination and try not to read into things so much.

 

[George Layton]

I left the church and staff in the 80's (early 80's.) In the years since I have gotten more case gain than I ever got in Scientology even after the OT levels . . . at last on my own I was able to resolve what was never resolved in Scientology and although I found the OT levels beneficial at the time back in the 80's I now understand the actuality of the material and the (now obvious) errors as well. Case gain is regular now and stable as well but only once I realized the major error in the OT technology and why OT-5 and 7 go on and on with often no end in sight. I don't have any charge to share if that's the true purpose of this forum __not because I didn't have any then but because I got rid of it years ago. My charge nowadays is for those of you still hurting and if I can somehow help you I would be delighted.
If any of you are stuck and have no solution maybe I can help. This isn't about money because I ask for nothing in return but if there are enough of us __why should the dream die! Scientology owns no monopoly to the human mind soul and/or consciousness. The future is ours and the roads and possibilities are limitless __I truly believe this and hope some of you share this viewpoint and if so let me know too! __rickm

There never was a baby in the bath.

 

[Gizmo]

There never was a baby in the bath.

yeah, the time & effort each of us put into it - there just HAD to be something worthwhile in there - - - - - - - - didn't it ?





Well, there was no baby - - - - - - just baby shit floating around here & there.

 

[Demented Hubbatd]

Welcome Rick.

Let's not beat around the bush. What brand of salvation are you offering that is free?

In any case, maybe you can help this fellow over here? He's looking for free help. Apparently he lives in Egypt, don't know if that will be a barrier or not. It would be great if you can help him first. He is most in need.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?43616-In-Egyt

Sorry, I clicked at a wrong post. I should be clicking at the response to this post.

 

[Demented Hubbatd]

Your introduction to me . . . sure seems as though you have mucho past track on help and money etc. etc. once you get that handled I will be delighted to respond . . . to sincerity. rickm

I do not have mucho past track (pista del passado) but I want to know how to perform exorcism just for the hell of it. Can you help me with that?

 

[WildKat]

Your introduction to me . . . sure seems as though you have mucho past track on help and money etc. etc. once you get that handled I will be delighted to respond . . . to sincerity. rickm

I simply tried to direct you to a guy who started another thread who was ASKING for help. But you want to make it about me instead of that dude. Why? Why not address your "help" ....whatever it is (and you haven't said what it is) to someone who wants it?

Tip...an EX SCN forum is not the most fruitful place for someone (who "benefited from the OT levels") to be looking for customers or people to "help" for free.

Oh, and labeling someone or diagnosing their issues based on a few sentences....lame.

 

[phenomanon]

I do not have mucho past track (pista del passado) but I want to know how to perform exorcism just for the hell of it. Can you help me with that?

I can! I Can!

 

[Hypatia]

I left the church and staff in the 80's (early 80's.) In the years since I have gotten more case gain than I ever got in Scientology even after the OT levels . . . at last on my own I was able to resolve what was never resolved in Scientology and although I found the OT levels beneficial at the time back in the 80's I now understand the actuality of the material and the (now obvious) errors as well. Case gain is regular now and stable as well but only once I realized the major error in the OT technology and why OT-5 and 7 go on and on with often no end in sight. I don't have any charge to share if that's the true purpose of this forum __not because I didn't have any then but because I got rid of it years ago. My charge nowadays is for those of you still hurting and if I can somehow help you I would be delighted.
If any of you are stuck and have no solution maybe I can help. This isn't about money because I ask for nothing in return but if there are enough of us __why should the dream die! Scientology owns no monopoly to the human mind soul and/or consciousness. The future is ours and the roads and possibilities are limitless __I truly believe this and hope some of you share this viewpoint and if so let me know too! __rickm

I'd say that almost everyone here has moved on from practicing Scientology. And, although we should hope for the eradication of pain and anger-still, anger has its place. It's a survival mechanism meant to galvanize the person into action. And action against Miscavige & co is what we need. I want to see the oppression and fraud come to an end.

Perhaps you should have lurked moar.

 

[Out/Int]

I did the OT levels and would love some of that help you are offering for free.

Please - what can you do for me?

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

Your introduction to me . . . sure seems as though you have mucho past track on help and money etc. etc. once you get that handled I will be delighted to respond . . . to sincerity. rickm

Hi Rickm, I need help reading your around the mulberry bush non-answer to Wildcat. Maybe I need to ask the normal straight forward question again, since I don't have the whole track charge to handle.

What brand of salvation are you offering that is free?

And I will add another. Do you handle charge of all kinds?