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It's not so much the fact of whether someone is or could ever be "clear" but the fact that the orgs put that there as a very definite state that they promote and then have you attest to. That the status is later removed after the ORG has declared you Clear is completely ludicrous. It is not up to the Parishioner to determine how you get there or when you have arrived. The orgs must take responsibility for the correct application of tech and qual must ensure that they do. Note that Clears and OTs were given this R-Factor all over the world - there was no determination between time or how the status was achieved ie. OTs got it, post-GAT Clears got it, those who attested to Clear at Class V Orgs got it, those that attested at Flag got it, CCRD trained auditors and Class IX auditors delivered the auditing and their PC attested to Clear and then got the R-Factor. My point is that sure, there were probably some people who read The Way To Happiness, walked into an org and attested to Clear and probably shouldn't have - THAT'S MY POINT. They were allowed to, were certified and later had that taken away and that only says one thing to me: The Orgs do not know what they are delivering. Regardless of whether a person is Clear or not, the responsibility rests on the organisation certifying and delivering it in my opinion and they need to promote it correctly ie. this is a state that we may or may not be able to deliver and we may or may not change the delivery and/or your state in future, would you still like to hand over that $50,000?
Yep! And what about when you get declared after 350KUSD and they cancel ALL your certs?
Uniquemand said:I think that the real OT Level is Life, operating therein. Doing the Grades or any procedure called for is nothing more than a "boost" to get you ready to do better on that OT Level. If those actions aren't geared towards that, someone's getting ripped off.
You are correct also sir. That is why the lower grades are called "set-ups". You are being "set up" in the true normal meaning of the word.
Hubbard set the game up so that those at the lower levels of scientology do NOT know about the scam. Most scientologists, including most Sea Org, are true believers, and just like at each level of the Bridge, a scientologist learns more and more as he moves up the heirarchy within the cult. The experience of a public is going to be alot different from that of a Mission staff, Org staff, Sea Org, CMO, INT, etc.
LRH wrote alot of references about games, and reading them now, after I am out, I see that he really did tell us exactly what he was doing, we just didn't see that he was doing it to us.
Remember the saying "The best place to hide something is right in plain sight."? I think that is just what Hubbard did with alot of things.
This is at the end of PDC lecture 39 of 12 Dec 52 titled
"Now the caste system of games consists of this -
The Maker of Games - He has no rules, he runs by no rules.
The Players of the Game - Rules know but he obeys them.
The Assistant Players - Merely obey the players.
The Peices - Obey rules as dictated by players, but
they don't know the rules. (and then what do you know?).
And then there's Broken Pieces - They aren't even in the
game but they're still in the game (and they are in a terrible
maybe, am I in a game or am I not in a game).
Now, how to make a piece (this is how to make a piece) -
1. Deny that there is a game
2. Hide the rules from them
3. Give them all the penalties and no wins
4. Remove all goals (ALL Goals)
Enforce their playing.
Inhibit their enjoying.
Make them look like but forbid their being like players
(look like god but you can't be god).
To make a piece continue to be a piece, permit it to associate
only with pieces and deny the existence of players (never
let the PCs find out that there are players).
Now out of this you're going to get a game". - L Ron Hubbard