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Excuse me if I am too tired to take it all in and ask you something you have already explained but, is your brother in the Sea Org too?
no just dad as far as I know, my brother is located in Melbourne.
Excuse me if I am too tired to take it all in and ask you something you have already explained but, is your brother in the Sea Org too?
no just dad as far as I know, my brother is located in Melbourne.
he is here for the opening of the new org in Melbourne at the moment, well thats what I saw on the news anyway.
he visited us a while ago while coming to Melbourne for a COS thing
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I dont know exactly, all I DO know is that Im really pissed off at the COS for what happened to my family. that they could have handled this differently, that they took advantage of dad when he was down and as such he took advantage of my brother.
I want them to realise their family matters and cares about them, and that they have family (our kids) who want to know them again, some for the first time.
Im so angry that my first stepmum hated kids and drove a wedge between dad and us, then when she was gone it was the COS that took that role, Im also mad as hell at dad for letting them do it.
Im upset at my brother as I thought I mattered to him too.
Thank you.
All right. Of course I don't (we don't) know you so, if I say something that doesn't fit or seem right, well, just chalk it up to that, okay?
You seem (from what limited info I have) to be the most responsible of the group were dealing with here in this conversation.
I completely see why you would be pissed and you have every right to be.
Now, obviously, this is not all Scientology related and it appears that Scientology is the latest thing, of many, BUT....
Scientology is SUPPOSED to help and it isn't helping you, is it?
Scientology as it is practiced inside the official "church" is a cult.
Your dad is not being helped and will not patch up his relationships while working for the church, especially now that is in its most frantic stages of fighting for its survival.
Even though it won't seem fair, you are going to have to be the strong one right now which, it appears is already the case.
Understand that the church of Scientology is on its last legs. It is on its way out, truly.
We can't give you exact dates but people are leaving the cult in droves right now.
Pretty soon your dad will have no other option but to have to look at all of this stuff as the church that is keeping him occupied will no longer exist.
Now, I don't want you to hold your breath or think this will happen tomorrow (even though that is what everyone on this board wants) but, you can hang out here with us and learn. Learn lots. Understand what is happening here if you want to.
We will help you as much as we can. In the end, it will be you that helps you dad and possibly you can gain an understanding of how to help your brother as well.
I wish I could tell you lots of other great stuff but, I don't have that in my bag of tricks.
You can Private Message me if you wish or, I'm sure, anyone else here.
Good night.
Also, your dad obviously loves you or he wouldn't have even visited you as it is often HARD to get time off when you work with the church. Also, know, that he thinks that what he is doing right now IS the absolute 100% best thing for you and his grand children because he truly thinks he is saving the world. In this way, he thinks he is doing the best possible thing for you. I know that's probably hard to believe but it's true.
It is very hard to understand, I see showing love as being there. I cant see it from someone who's got grandkids who dont even know who he is.
But yes, my dad is the kind of guy who would fall into this "Im saving the world" trap. He has flown into Indonesia (on the COS pocket) to work there after the tsunami, he has worked all around OZ regarding the aboriginal treatment and all that, and he has said very emotionally that he loves what he does.
I really hope this is the case.
but I wonder if something else will take its place?
and yes I did place hope in COS bridging the gap, but alas that was not to be.
This apparency is not due to any quality about Scientology. It's because the OT pipedream and magic is a lie.. Doesn't exist and cannot be attained.From what I have seen, once someone is in Scientology and they think they have found the answer to everything, there isn't anything that can take its place afterward and that's what makes it hard for people to recover. <snip>
thanks for the welcome, is there an area for family of members? or a stand alone site?