On making the Scientology Purification Rundown safe and acceptable

MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
Shelia you are soooo right! I have a hard time trying to get off the phone with my friends sometimes bc I feel bad..I have a hard time leaving someone's house after going over for dinner sometimes..I can't imagine how I would feel with all that pressure in the Sea Org or even just as a public!! To say people can leave at anytime may be true in fact but it completely is void of the human condition we ALL have of caring what others think..whether it is caring bc we love or caring bc we respect, regardless if others are worthy of our love or respect..we are human and these feelings are natural.

Gib, Exactly! And my point wasn't at you.. It was for the other poster who wrote they have never seen anyone be harmed by taking vitamins.. Even if they don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And you & I agree on that :)

all this talk of medical clearance.. I'd love to see the info that the doctor is given to know what they are clearing. Is this the cult members private General Practitioner that is giving the all clear? Or a doctor on the cult payroll? And what of the children? What pediatrician would approve this for a minor??

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one last thing.. Something smells really bad in Utah! I'm too tired to look into this tonight..or even ever I think..but y'all might want sniff around... Someone's got some palms being greased.. I'm kinda shocked the Mormons are letting the $cn on their turf.. Maybe they just legitimize each other?

Utah Meth Cops Project
Inspired by the New York project, a center in Orem, Utah administers the Purification Rundown to Salt Lake City police who complain of health effects from exposure to meth lab toxins.[60][61] This is done under the name of Bio-Cleansing Centers of America and has received public money in addition to private donations.[62] Many police who have taken part claim to have benefited, though a medical doctor associated with the Utah clinic acknowledged in 2007 that there were no studies of the program's effect on people who had been exposed to meth labs.[21]
The major supporter of the clinic has been State Attorney General Mark Shurtleff.[63] In 2007 and 2008, his office spent $140,000 to pay for 20 police to take the program, and requested a total of $440,000 from the Utah State Legislature.[63] The legislature advanced $240,000 of this further funding.[21] In 2009, Republicans in the State Legislature approved an additional $100,000 for the project in the closing days of a session, bypassing a committee which would have reviewed the payment.[21]
 

MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
I was Sea Org when I did the Sweat Program. We wore plastic wrap and garbage bags (no kidding!)

Btw, it's funny you brought up the weight loss thing, because L Ron had the whole oil exchange thing backwards.

It works externally, not internally (but only temporarily).

What you do is soak a bunch of Ace bandages in oil and put them all over your body. Snug, but not too tight, and exercise for an hour or two.

You'll sweat like you're in a steam room and drip oil everywhere, so exercise on plastic tarps.

Take waist and other measurements before and after. You'll see a lot of shrinkage afterwards. For real.

The oil brings much of the water out of your body through osmosis.

A person can get pretty dehydrated doing this, so it's not recommended, and the inches come back on (and weight, because it's only water), but it takes anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months for the water and weight to go back to where it was originally, so works pretty well to fit into tight wedding gowns as a one-off. :coolwink:
Sounds like a body wrap! I got one of those before my wedding and it totally worked on the cellulite!
 

Terril park

Sponsor
I was Sea Org when I did the Sweat Program. We wore plastic wrap and garbage bags (no kidding!)

Btw, it's funny you brought up the weight loss thing, because L Ron had the whole oil exchange thing backwards.

It works externally, not internally (but only temporarily).

What you do is soak a bunch of Ace bandages in oil and put them all over your body. Snug, but not too tight, and exercise for an hour or two.

You'll sweat like you're in a steam room and drip oil everywhere, so exercise on plastic tarps.

Take waist and other measurements before and after. You'll see a lot of shrinkage afterwards. For real.

The oil brings much of the water out of your body through osmosis.

A person can get pretty dehydrated doing this, so it's not recommended, and the inches come back on (and weight, because it's only water), but it takes anywhere from 3 weeks to 6 months for the water and weight to go back to where it was originally, so works pretty well to fit into tight wedding gowns as a one-off. :coolwink:

OK! A new tech finder.

Wedding tech.
 

JustSheila

Crusader
Purif oils are vegatable not mineral.

Thanks. I didn't remember. Either way, excessive oils act as laxatives and inhibit proper digestion. They coat the stomach and intestines while digesting - works as an immediate aid for an upset stomach, but that coating works the other way, too.

Sounds like a body wrap! I got one of those before my wedding and it totally worked on the cellulite!

OK! A new tech finder. Wedding tech.


lol! Yes, a body wrap!
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JGB

Patron
WTF does the presence of trace pharmaceuticals in the water supply have to do with anything?

Oh, right, it doesn't.

Vitamins ARE NOT FOOD.

They are found in food.

Extracting any part of a plant and concentrating it removes it from the food category.

How many times do I have to repeat this? The difference between a medicine and a poison is the DOSE!

There are tiny traces of cyanide in almonds. Try extracting that and selling it as a supplement.

As for deaths on Vitamins, while rare (there can't be that many $cientologists taking the Purif each year :hysterical:), in life, as in ESM, you should LURK MOAR.

About a decade ago India had a problem with Vitamin A used in pediatric health clinics. In 2012, there was at least one confirmed death from a B-Complex vitamin (I wonder if that awas a $cientologist?). And that's ignoring the fact that most victims of vitamin poisoning don't die, they just lose much of their liver function. Not a fun way to go through life.

Keep on riding that motorcycle without a helmet. Somewhere, someone can use your organs when you wipe out.

Wow I am so WRONG and you are SO RIGHT! Natural vitamins are food period.

Toxic Vitamin A in India was a UNICEF project. No data if it was synthetic or natural.
Same thing with Niacin. Very vague and no details.
One death on B-complex! Again no data.

But you keep informing us how bad the Purif is and it is not. The Purif is not dangerous and you need a medical exam before anyone can do it. Yet you work in an industry that has done more harm to humans (and the environment) in the name of help. More than Ron could do in 100 lifetimes! I know two people who died horribly from pharma drug concoctions and cost them over $100,000.00.

Please pm me your name so when I DO DROP MY BODY I want to make sure that you will not get any of my organs. You would probably get sick because they are to pure:)
 
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MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
Utah Meth
Inspired by the New York project, a center in Orem, Utah administers the Purification Rundown to Salt Lake City police who complain of health effects from exposure to meth lab toxins.[60][61] This is done under the name of Bio-Cleansing Centers of America and has received public money in addition to private donations.[62] Many police who have taken part claim to have benefited, though a medical doctor associated with the Utah clinic acknowledged in 2007 that there were no studies of the program's effect on people who had been exposed to meth labs.[21]
The major supporter of the clinic has been State Attorney General Mark Shurtleff.[63] In 2007 and 2008, his office spent $140,000 to pay for 20 police to take the program, and requested a total of $440,000 from the Utah State Legislature.[63] The legislature advanced $240,000 of this further funding.[21] In 2009, Republicans in the State Legislature approved an additional $100,000 for the project in the closing days of a session, bypassing a committee which would have reviewed the payment.[21]

oh yeah, this isn't shady at all :eyeroll: He left office in Utah and became a partner at a law firm in DC for all of six months before having to resign for getting busted...

The media have reported allegations that Shurtleff allows political donations or personal relationships to affect regulatory or prosecutorial decisions. [9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32] He has also faced allegations of taking donations from companies he knows to be in the midst of legal proceedings for which he has responsibility.[33]
In May 2013, the media reported on a secret recording in which Mark Shurtleff was heard offering a businessman, Darl McBride, $2 million if he dropped his ongoing battle with another prominent businessman, Mark Robbins. McBride recorded the conversation and turned it over to federal agents, in part of a wide ranging investigation also involving the current Utah Attorney General, John Swallow.[34][35]

Makes me wonder how that DOD Purif study is coming along :hmm: And who they bought in Congress to try and legitimize this quackery.
 

DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
Sounds like a body wrap! I got one of those before my wedding and it totally worked on the cellulite!

You can also heat your home made sauna with a crock pot and a small bag of smooth river rock and splash distilled water on it like you'd do in a sauna.
 

Anonycat

Crusader
First vitamins, minerals etc., are not medicine! It is food. I have not seen, read, or hear of anybody getting sick or die from vitamins. But so many illnesses and deaths caused by pharmaceuticals.

http://naturalsociety.com/drug-deaths-now-outnumber-traffic-fatalities-in-us/

http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

Since medicine is so scientific tell me why is there so much pharmaceutical waste in our water supply?


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23503485/.../t/pharmaceuticals-lurking-us-drinking-water/

http://www.alternet.org/story/59305...ply_are_causing_bizarre_mutations_to_wildlife

I have to admit - I get a little giggly every time someone posts utter crap, in an effort to inform a PhD about their field.
 

Anonycat

Crusader
Wow I am so WRONG and you are SO RIGHT! Natural vitamins are food period.

Toxic Vitamin A in India was a UNICEF project. No data if it was synthetic or natural.
Same thing with Niacin. Very vague and no details.
One death on B-complex! Again no data.

But you keep informing us how bad the Purif is and it is not. The Purif is not dangerous and you need a medical exam before anyone can do it. Yet you work in an industry that has done more harm to humans (and the environment) in the name of help more than Ron could do in 100 lifetimes. I know two people who died horribly from pharma drug concoctions and cost them over $100,000.00 just to stay alive.

Please pm me your name when I DROP MY BODY I want to make sure that you will not get one my organs. You would probably get sick because they are to pure:)

I pretty much stopped reading at the place I bolded. Would you put your money where your mouth is, and pay all "Purif" victim costs when death or organ damage, or other physical harm comes? I think that would be just great. Because you know, it is total quackery and people die from it. Deal?
 

Panda Termint

Cabal Of One
Did you wear a rubber like suit on the Sweatout program? I just read about those :) me and my STUPID girlfriends tried working out wearing trash bags once..we thought it would help us loose weight faster.

Lol, yes, but mine was plastic. Lightweight motorcycle wet-weather gear. Trash bags were common too.

Funniest Sweatout story; I was on Tour with my band and we were staying up North in Currumbin, Queensland. Running for hours on Currumbin Beach in 35C in a plastic suit caused a few raised eyebrows! :p

For fun, I once jogged the length of the beach with a fold-up ironing board on my head (in imitation of surfers carrying their boards). That got a few laughs! :hysterical:
 

MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
Oh snap! I think U just got called an evil psych again.. :giggle:

I'd love to stay around and debate but I'm not going to argue and since zero facts have been presented to prove that the Purif actually purifies anything, I'm going to bed. It might make you feel good but so do a lot of things that aren't healthy and it also makes a lot of people feel sick, see testimonials on this very message board for proof of that!

And for all you true believers is Hubbs and his vast medical knowledge, who likely won't seek out a critical view.. I'll bring it to you..just one of many..Google is your friend when you are ready.


http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/reports/hogg.htm
CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE PURIFICATION RUNDOWN
by David Hogg, M.D.


This analysis will only cover some of the statements Hubbard puts forward concerning certain aspects of biochemistry and medicine. Many of his other statements I consider fallacious or even mendacious, but they will not be subjected to criticism here.


1. LSD


Hubbard makes many statements concerning this drug, all of which serve to illustrate his overwhelming ignorance of biochemistry.


"As it has been stated that it only takes one millionth of an ounce of LSD to produce a drugged condition and because it is basically wheat rust which simply cuts off circulation, my original thinking on this over the years was that LSD sticks around in the body. That basically is the idea underlying the original Sweat Program. The remedy given was to sweat it out. From the most recent research developments, it now appears that not only LSD but other chemical poisons and toxins, preservatives, pesticides, etc., as well as medical drugs and the long list of heavy street drugs... can lodge in the tissues and remain in the body for years."


Firstly, LSD is a chemical. It is thought to act by a direct effect on brain cells, perhaps by blocking the action of a neurotransmitter (a chemical messenger in the brain) known as Serotonin. this blockade may affect the brain adversely, causing the various hallucinogenic effects of the drug.


Hubbard claims that LSD "cuts off circulation". In fact, it does nothing of the sort; neither the output of blood from the heart nor its passage through any of the blood vessels in the body is affected. LSD affects only the brain, not the circulation.


Wheat rust is a virus which causes an infection of wheat; it has absolutely nothing in common with LSD either chemically or biologically. How Hubbard ever made the connection between the two is very puzzling; the fact that the two are linked together at all is evidence of his poor understanding of the subject.


There is no evidence at all that LSD or any of the other street drugs Hubbard mentions "lodge in the tissues for years". Indeed, these drugs, being water soluble, are excreted quickly. This is due to the fact that the body is mainly water. The drugs dissolve in the water and then are rapidly excreted from the body in the urine. (In view of this, Hubbard's claim that "trips during the program" (p.15) should be treated with "extra vitamin B complex and vitamin C" is seen to be false; you can't treat what isn't there.)


2. Fats and Oils


The only substances which Hubbard lists correctly as being stored in the tissues are pesticides. However, Hubbard has no idea how this occurs. He states:


"There is no such thing as a fat cell" (p.8)


This is incorrect. Hubbard might have merely consulted a basic medical text to realize this. The human body, like any complex living organism, is composed of cells. In the body, these cells are specialized for various functions; nerve cells, which relay messages to and from the brain; red blood cells, which carry oxygen to the body; and so on. The body stores fat in specialized fat cells. Hubbard, although claiming a good deal of knowledge of biology, does not even appreciate this very basic concept.


Hubbard then claims that to "clean up" fat tissue in the body, it is necessary to replace the fat broken down by exercise with an external source of oil. He is wrong on several counts.


Firstly, the body contains none of the street drugs stored in body tissues as Hubbard claims. The only exception to this is the active ingredient of marijuana; it may be stored in fat cells for as long as one to two months before it is finally excreted. It is not, as Hubbard claims, stored for years. LSD crystals do not exist at all in the body. Thus the "drug residues" which Hubbard bases most of his program on, simply do not exist.


Secondly, in order to rid the body of these drugs and toxins, Hubbard proposes to break down body fat. In the short term, this would actually increase the toxicity of such substances as pesticides because they would be released into the bloodstream as fat is broken down. The only instance of this occurring is in several species of birds exposed to DDT during the summer. In the winter, as the birds used up their body fat due to the lack of food, many died due to DDT poisoning. Fortunately, the levels of such substances are not high enough in the human population to cause such an effect; nonetheless, Hubbard's method of "cleansing" is certainly not medically sound.


Finally, Hubbard states that oil should be consumed to provide more fat to replace that which is broken down. In fact, oil is not necessary to make fat; the body may synthesize fat perfectly naturally from carbohydrates instead, as is evidenced by the number of obese candy lovers.


3. Vitamin Deficiencies


Hubbard's complete lack of medical knowledge is best demonstrated here.


Some introductory comments first. Hubbard states that alcohol "burns up" vitamin B1 and thus leads to the DTs. This is incorrect. Alcohol itself causes, in sufficient dose and following withdrawal, a clinical syndrome known as delirium tremens or the DTs. This syndrome is due to a sudden lack of alcohol in an addict of this drug; it is best characterized as a severe alcohol withdrawal reaction. Many alcoholics eat poorly and thus become deficient in thiamin or vitamin B1. They do not burn up this vitamin, they simply run out of it. They develop a neuralgic syndrome known as Wernicke-Korsakoff disease which will not be discussed here but which is much different from the DTs.


Following this, Hubbard claims that LSD and other street drugs burn up several vitamins. There is no evidence that this occurs. No vitamin deficiencies are due to a toxic effect of street drugs; what actually occurs is that many addicts eat very poorly and thus fail to consume the proper amount of vitamins. Deficiencies of these vitamins then develop, not due to the drugs themselves, but rather to the social situations which they create. The solution obviously lies in a discontinuation of the drug taking behavior and resumption of a proper diet.


4. Niacin


Hubbard devotes special attention to this vitamin and makes many statements concerning it, almost all of which are incorrect.


He first claims it "releases L.S.D. crystals into the system". As discussed earlier, there are no LSD crystals stored at all in the body anyway so this statement concerning this effect of niacin is incorrect.


Next, he states that, "Niacin's biochemical reaction is my own private, personal discovery". In fact, niacin was discovered about the turn of the century and its lack, which leads to a syndrome known as pellagra, was elucidated in the early 1900's. Niacin's action, as an important constituent in many of the body's chemical reactions, has been studied since that time by several notable biochemists; Hubbard is not among them. He has made no contribution to the field, has published no work pertaining to the substance and his claim that niacin is a "private personal discovery" is a total lie.


When given as a medication, Niacin may cause a direct effect on blood vessels of the skin causing them to dilate. This will be seen clinically as in itching, flushing sensation which passes quickly. Hubbard claims however that it is really "running out" sunburn or radiation. This is simply ridiculous; radiation, be it sunlight or otherwise, is not stored in the body as a chemical substance is, but is simply converted to some other sort of energy such as heat, or causes some tissue damage (i.e. sunburn). (Try catching a glass of sunlight!) It cannot therefore be "run out."


Niacin in the body is converted to a substance known as nicotinamide (tradename Niacinamide). Hubbard claims that this compound is worthless. He is incorrect again; in fact, nicotinamide given as a drug simply obviates the body's need to convert niacin to nicotinamide, and avoids the side effects of niacin.


It is of historical note that no one received a Nobel prize in 1973 for "curing insanity with niacin", as Hubbard claims.


5. Medical Risks of the Program


Hubbard attempts to cover himself as concerns the risks of the program by stating that:


"This program can be strenuous and should not be undertaken by anyone who has a weak heart or who is anemic."


His methods of clinical investigation, however, are highly questionable both medically and legally. He states that the "Medical Officer" who is "trained" may test applicants to the program for these problems. Many years of training are required to detect heart disease in some individuals. The medical officers in the various Orgs have no such training; Hubbard, by implying that they do, is perpetrating a medical fraud which may be highly dangerous to some people engaging in this program. For example, a patient with unsuspected coronary artery disease who is subjected to the stresses demanded of him in this combination of exercise and sauna stands a significant chance of suffering a heart attack.


It should be further noted that Hubbard gives as second choice a qualified medical doctor to check the applicant before embarking on the program; an MD is to be consulted only in the absence of a "medical officer".


Hubbard also states that the dose of niacin, which is given initially at 100mg a day, should be steadily increased. He then states:


"The other vitamins would have to be increased proportionately to Niacin at the same time the Niacin is increased..."


This may be dangerous to the person concerned. Probably most of the vitamins Hubbard recommends are harmless, even if they do none of the things he claims they do. However, vitamins A and D, if taken in large doses, may be quite harmful.


High levels of vitamin D may lead to a sudden increase in blood calcium. This will lead to symptoms of decreased appetite, nausea and vomiting, memory loss, decreased level of consciousness progressing to coma, and in infants, mental retardation. Kidney damage may also occur which is often not reversible on discontinuing the vitamin. Bone disease, with weakening and fractures, also occurs concomitantly.


Large amounts of vitamin A may lead to severe toxicity including a rise in the pressure of the fluid surrounding the brain, leading to headaches, visual disturbances and seizures. Even more worrisome is the fact that in animals, vitamin A leads to malformed offspring when fed to the pregnant mother.


Finally, Hubbard seems to feel that any drugs are dangerous, as he lumps them with street drugs and other poisons in his introductory section. Many people depend on certain drugs to maintain the function of their heart or other vital organs. In the case of these people, an instruction or even suggestion to cease taking their medications could be fatal.


In summary, Hubbard is a very ignorant man. He consistently demonstrates a complete and at times dangerous lack of knowledge concerning biochemistry, physics, and medicine. His theories are based on fallacies and lies; there is no scientific data to support any of them.


Furthermore, his program not only fails to deliver what it promises, but may actually be detrimental to the health of those taking it.


As such, it cannot be recommended that anyone take this program.


David Hogg, MD
Toronto, October 8, 1981
 
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ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Reading this thread is bringing-up some long-forgotten memories. Here's one that is applicable:

There was a young guy at my local org, maybe early twenties, who was new to scientology and was put on the Purif as one of his first actions.

After he'd been on it for a while, there just happened to be a female Sea Org person at our org who had been sent there on some kind of a mission to get stats up or something. Anyway, she found out that this guy hadn't come in for his purif that day so she phoned his house.

I was there when she got off the phone and I could see she looked shocked. She said: "He died last night!"

Apparently he just dropped down dead. Someone asked this Sea Org woman if the person on the phone had mentioned scientology and she said they hadn't so she instructed us all to keep this quiet in case anyone tried to make a connection.

Just another day in the strange world of scientology.
 

ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Regarding being a smoker, when I was in Scientology, both before and after the Purif, I was a smoker, a drinker and overweight.

Since I left Scientology I no longer smoke or drink and I am at my natural weight.

Being out of Scientology is a gift that just keeps on giving:thumbsup:
 

Rene Descartes

Gold Meritorious Patron
When was there Purif auditing? When I did the Purif there was no data on Purif auditing. Sounds like they were really hitting hard for extra money.

There was a correction list.

I performed the correction list on people.

Performed sounds so symphonic, maybe even sexual, so if there is a better term to use please advise.

Rd00
 

Rene Descartes

Gold Meritorious Patron
Here are a few examples of harm caused around the Purif..

Paride Ella and Giuseppe Tomba, clients of Narconon in Taceno, Italy, died in 1995 during the vitamin phase of the program, suffering kidney problems and a heart attack respectively.[46]


In 1996, journalist Mark Ebner described the case of a woman who had suffered heatstroke and anemia while on the program.
One day, she was found blue-lipped on the waiting room floor, hemorrhaging. Instead of taking her blood pressure or calling an ambulance or even a doctor, they explained away her bleeding as "restimulation" from radiation she had absorbed from ultrasound testing she'd had years before.[17]


In 1997, two emergency room doctors reported treating a 45-year-old man who had participated in the Rundown. Previously healthy, he had developed tremors while on the program, for which the Church of Scientology recommended further Purification as treatment. Put back in the sauna, he developed seizures and was taken to hospital in an incoherent state. He was diagnosed with severe hyponatremia but three days of medical treatment returned him to normal.[8]

In a similar case, the wife of a Medina, Ohio dentist required hospitalisation after developing hallucinations and other bizarre symptoms during the program.[22]

In 2004, a former participant in the UK told reporters that the program had gravely worsened his physical condition, and that he had been denied medical treatment.[47]


A 25-year-old man in Portland, Oregon died from liver failure having taken the program. His parents sued the Church of Scientology and the case was settled out of court.[22] Scientology officials blamed the death on prior medical problems.[48]

The cult has been covering its ass for over 60years.. To think this program has not seriously injured many many people and children is ignorant and I can't argue with ignoramuses.. Just like they don't force abortions and people can just walk out of the Sea Org at anytime, and oh yeah, there is no such thing as disconnection it's simply a voluntary individual choice and the church doesn't get involved in personal family matters.

Thank you for the plox of the dox

Rd00
 

Rene Descartes

Gold Meritorious Patron
Wow I am so WRONG and you are SO RIGHT! Natural vitamins are food period.

Toxic Vitamin A in India was a UNICEF project. No data if it was synthetic or natural.
Same thing with Niacin. Very vague and no details.
One death on B-complex! Again no data.

But you keep informing us how bad the Purif is and it is not. The Purif is not dangerous and you need a medical exam before anyone can do it. Yet you work in an industry that has done more harm to humans (and the environment) in the name of help more than Ron could do in 100 lifetimes. I know two people who died horribly from pharma drug concoctions and cost them over $100,000.00 just to stay alive.

Please pm me your name when I DROP MY BODY I want to make sure that you will not get one my organs. You would probably get sick because they are to pure:)

But someone, and it might be you, is informing us how great the Purf is and it is not.

Medical exam? If there is nothing dangerous about the Purf why is a medical exam needed? Is it in case something bad happens to the person then the Church can try to shift blame off of themselves?

Rd00
 

secretiveoldfag

Silver Meritorious Patron
At the end of WWII teams of British doctors went into the Netherlands, where the civilian population had been deliberately (and illegally) starved by the departing Germans. The Dutch were fed with the standard famine relief stuff including white flour. The doctors were surprised to find that this led to the first cases they had ever seen outside of the tropics of beri-beri, a disease caused by a deficiency of thiamine, otherwise known as vitamin B1. Otherwise it is only known in Asia where it is associated with polished rice (the polishing removes the vitamin).

Despite this knowledge beri-beri was accidentally inflicted on the Dutch population by inappropriate feeding.

In other words, there is more going on in the human body than Hubbard ever imagined.

The man was IGNORANT. Which means 'knowing nothing'. Not knowing how to know but knowing NOTHING.
 
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