Gold Meritorious Patron
Yes, I do remember what you referred to.
The earlier state (which is really no state) is BRAHMA and nothing can be said about it because it is unmanifested.
Anything that is manifested, and anything about which one may say something, has the property of space, time, energy and matter.
But, you may believe whatever you want to believe. That belief is also part of some MEST. That is how I see it.
Hmmmm - An infinity of holographic somethings can be brought into being or ceased to be brought into being about it!