Garcia Robot
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Hey everyone,
While it is not the first thread I reply on, it is, nonetheless, the very first thread I open on my own.
I would deem it unnecessary to go into why I got into Scientology - it's the regular story of a crisis in life, a helping "Ron-hand" that came into assistance at the right time and the ensuing brainwash that sneaked up on one so quickly.
But definitely one of the major reasons why I left Scientology is because I realized there is actually only one way to be a Scientologist.
It is delineated in Keeping Scientology Working 1. Wacky Tom Cruise video comes to mind - "So, for me, it's really KSW, and it's just like, it's something that, uh, I don't mince words with that. You know, I don't mince words with anything that LRH wrote, but that policy to me has really gone PFFFFFF, boy, there's a time I went through and I said, 'You know what...'. When I read it, I just went POOOOF! 'That is it. That's exactly it.'"
That's Tom Cruise, not mincing words.
But his point remains. KSW dictates the way a Scientologist should behave. For example, there's this whole no-no about frying fish. I guess Hubbard wasn't big on fish, and I'm not either, but I got an immensely clear vision of what that means, one time when I unfortunately found myself in a dedicated Scientologist apartment. She obviously took the whole "no other fish to fry" command really seriously... Because, her poor cats were meager and starved, her apartment was the filthiest I've ever been in, there was garbage everywhere - To this day, I still feel sick when I think about her. But she still showed up at the Org every day, and although stinky with sour sweat, she still dressed in professional looking clothes. So dedicated was she, that she couldn't be bothered picking up the eggshells from the eggs she had, and just left them on her living room table for months. I know, because I've seen the pile.
Could be that her case is extreme, but I bet all of you know at least one person in the staff of every org who is already in his 50-60, yet never married, no kids, never got his own place and is probably living in a tiny one room, two rooms apartment. Dedicated Scientologists, the whole lot of them. Definitely never fried any fish outside of Scientology... Nor ever had enough spare money to even remotely consider buying an apartment or a house.
Even having a 2D is "other-intentioness". While the Sea Org cannot prevent people from falling in love, they sure can prevent them from doing anything else. I wasn't a Sea Org member but I got to spend time with many. One time I asked some of them a question - can't remember what it was, but one of them misunderstood me and his reply was, "well, if they send your wife to another base for more than 3 months, you start raising hell". Raise hell, Bubba, you're a Scientology slave. They'll sec-check you out of every counter intention, until you've "cognited" that the very marriage you got and the will to be together, for which you married, is just a reactive mind effort in the way of clearing planet Earth. Hell, they've even brainwashed you into agreeing that you don't want kids. I'm the last person who would judge anyone for not wanting to have kids, however, it's really clearly not their own idea. I'd bet my eyelashes that 90%-99% of the people who say things like: "Kids? I've had lifetimes of having kids, now I'm here to clear the Planet" - Don't even have their own memories of those lifetimes in which they had kids. It's just the leap of faith on their part - Something that is not outright called for in LRH scriptures, but something that every dedicated Scientologist nonetheless makes when he had read enough LRH. "Well, he was right about so many things, I bet he's right about that too. Haha, let's sign out next billion years away!".
When I realized that the only way to really be a Scientologist is to be a Sea Org member, 100% dedicated to Scientology, having no place of my own, no real life I can command over, well that was really when I realized that I can't be a Scientologist. Because there will always be a collision of intentions between me and "them". They would want me to give every single hour I have to Scientology. And do not be fooled - Even Class V org staffers give every hour they got to Scientology - Including those hours they lay awake at night, thinking how they're going to make ends meet when they have to have a full time job inside the org, and a full time job outside to make a living - Or even, spend any time at all with their family. Even Ideal Org staff can't make a living out of their work, even less so, with all the bills the org has to pay to keep the place running. Recruitment interviews, showering you with admiration, promising you that everything is fixed now and that staff gets lots of care, blah blah, that you make enough money on staff or you're soon going to - all cynical lies to boost their stats. And you, me, most of us, fell for it. At least once. Some even twice or three times. But they keep calling, showing up at your doorsteps for a recruitment interview. And you can't even change your phone number, because that would be an overt and a withhold. Talk about the perfect mind trap!
They would want you to give every single coin you make to Scientology, in such theta ways as, for example, keeping one inside a nicely lit, beautifully furnished room until 1 am. If you want to use your money to buy nice things for yourself or pay for your education then off you go to Ethics and on with the clay demo about "Middle Class PTSness". Donate to the IAS, donate to library campaigns. Donate to a staff member who needs to get his plane ticket to Flag. It's like clergy or whatever that expects to live off donations, but in comparison with most other religions, Scientology gives nothing of value to its members and instead just takes and takes.
They would demand of you to cut ties with those who have transgressed against the org. Those dedicated Scientologists, who are very well versed in mind twists and cognitive dissonance, would brush away the previous statement as false, claiming that "you're not forced to do it, you do it out of your own free will" - Yeah right! Because the threat of having you yourself declared if you don't disconnect, and the threat of them taking your "eternity" away from you, is not so bad. You disconnect from your mom because you want to, not because the evil cult bent your hands and forced you into it. Besides, your mom is just the physical body that gave birth to your physical body. What of it? Thetans have no family relations. Remember?
It took me some time after I left to fully formulate all these thoughts but at the time I left I could still feel all those things were true, even when they were not articulated in such a venomous, angry fashion. And when I realized that to be a dedicated, in-KSW 1 Scientologist you have to be willing to give everything away to Scientology, that's when I finally felt OK about leaving.
Scientology plays with the minds of young, naive people, who are often also driven by ideals, and for that it is guilty of fraud. It deprives them of their formative years. Those of us who were smart enough to keep a job outside of Scientology, to keep in touch with our family members, to not lose the friendships with our childhood friends, we had our safety nets when we left. Those of us who were born into it are in a much deeper mud, and to me it is a wonder that they even managed to climb out of it.
I am an atheist, I wish for freedom of thought for all. As a Scientologist I used to think that a Scientology world would be good - Everyone you see on the bus would either a staff member, a Sea Org or a Public. Little did I realize that such a world would have colonies of 1.1s - after the Science of Survival policies, or the social torture that SPs would suffer. I salute the Human nature for seeing Scientology for what it is, and today every person that tells me, "you used to be in Scientology? But that's a cult!" gets a hearty laugh from me as a response. Yes, it is a cult. How clever of you to see that. You're obviously smarter than I was back then, way to go and keep up that attitude. I also gotta say that I love how the spell checker here doesn't recognize words like "Scientologist" and "thetan". Well done spell checker, keep up that attitude.
Thanks to everybody who writes here and shares his story or his 2 cents. I spend a substantial amount of time every day browsing through Scientology stories like yours and I thank you for sharing them. Due to the "toxic Scientology policy of Disconnection", as Tony Ortega often puts it, I cannot give any details in fear that loved ones would have to disconnect from me, so unfortunately I'm not able to share my story in detail. I hope that one day my loved ones would have the same realizations as me, and we would all burst in song and dance and speak the truth about Scientology, using our real names. My nickname on this message board, by the way, is reference to the Garcia Robots in Arthur C. Clarke Rama series, who are healing robots who wear the body of Bonita Garcia, a truth seeker inside the universe of the Rama story. It's also a reference the famous Garcia inside the universe of Scientology, who got the message through against all odds. And it's also a reference to the term "Ron-bot". I guess what this nickname means is... I used to be a Ron-bot, but now I come with the healing message of truth, against all odds - Because it's always quite a feat to break free from mind traps.
Cheers.
While it is not the first thread I reply on, it is, nonetheless, the very first thread I open on my own.
I would deem it unnecessary to go into why I got into Scientology - it's the regular story of a crisis in life, a helping "Ron-hand" that came into assistance at the right time and the ensuing brainwash that sneaked up on one so quickly.
But definitely one of the major reasons why I left Scientology is because I realized there is actually only one way to be a Scientologist.
It is delineated in Keeping Scientology Working 1. Wacky Tom Cruise video comes to mind - "So, for me, it's really KSW, and it's just like, it's something that, uh, I don't mince words with that. You know, I don't mince words with anything that LRH wrote, but that policy to me has really gone PFFFFFF, boy, there's a time I went through and I said, 'You know what...'. When I read it, I just went POOOOF! 'That is it. That's exactly it.'"
That's Tom Cruise, not mincing words.
But his point remains. KSW dictates the way a Scientologist should behave. For example, there's this whole no-no about frying fish. I guess Hubbard wasn't big on fish, and I'm not either, but I got an immensely clear vision of what that means, one time when I unfortunately found myself in a dedicated Scientologist apartment. She obviously took the whole "no other fish to fry" command really seriously... Because, her poor cats were meager and starved, her apartment was the filthiest I've ever been in, there was garbage everywhere - To this day, I still feel sick when I think about her. But she still showed up at the Org every day, and although stinky with sour sweat, she still dressed in professional looking clothes. So dedicated was she, that she couldn't be bothered picking up the eggshells from the eggs she had, and just left them on her living room table for months. I know, because I've seen the pile.
Could be that her case is extreme, but I bet all of you know at least one person in the staff of every org who is already in his 50-60, yet never married, no kids, never got his own place and is probably living in a tiny one room, two rooms apartment. Dedicated Scientologists, the whole lot of them. Definitely never fried any fish outside of Scientology... Nor ever had enough spare money to even remotely consider buying an apartment or a house.
Even having a 2D is "other-intentioness". While the Sea Org cannot prevent people from falling in love, they sure can prevent them from doing anything else. I wasn't a Sea Org member but I got to spend time with many. One time I asked some of them a question - can't remember what it was, but one of them misunderstood me and his reply was, "well, if they send your wife to another base for more than 3 months, you start raising hell". Raise hell, Bubba, you're a Scientology slave. They'll sec-check you out of every counter intention, until you've "cognited" that the very marriage you got and the will to be together, for which you married, is just a reactive mind effort in the way of clearing planet Earth. Hell, they've even brainwashed you into agreeing that you don't want kids. I'm the last person who would judge anyone for not wanting to have kids, however, it's really clearly not their own idea. I'd bet my eyelashes that 90%-99% of the people who say things like: "Kids? I've had lifetimes of having kids, now I'm here to clear the Planet" - Don't even have their own memories of those lifetimes in which they had kids. It's just the leap of faith on their part - Something that is not outright called for in LRH scriptures, but something that every dedicated Scientologist nonetheless makes when he had read enough LRH. "Well, he was right about so many things, I bet he's right about that too. Haha, let's sign out next billion years away!".
When I realized that the only way to really be a Scientologist is to be a Sea Org member, 100% dedicated to Scientology, having no place of my own, no real life I can command over, well that was really when I realized that I can't be a Scientologist. Because there will always be a collision of intentions between me and "them". They would want me to give every single hour I have to Scientology. And do not be fooled - Even Class V org staffers give every hour they got to Scientology - Including those hours they lay awake at night, thinking how they're going to make ends meet when they have to have a full time job inside the org, and a full time job outside to make a living - Or even, spend any time at all with their family. Even Ideal Org staff can't make a living out of their work, even less so, with all the bills the org has to pay to keep the place running. Recruitment interviews, showering you with admiration, promising you that everything is fixed now and that staff gets lots of care, blah blah, that you make enough money on staff or you're soon going to - all cynical lies to boost their stats. And you, me, most of us, fell for it. At least once. Some even twice or three times. But they keep calling, showing up at your doorsteps for a recruitment interview. And you can't even change your phone number, because that would be an overt and a withhold. Talk about the perfect mind trap!
They would want you to give every single coin you make to Scientology, in such theta ways as, for example, keeping one inside a nicely lit, beautifully furnished room until 1 am. If you want to use your money to buy nice things for yourself or pay for your education then off you go to Ethics and on with the clay demo about "Middle Class PTSness". Donate to the IAS, donate to library campaigns. Donate to a staff member who needs to get his plane ticket to Flag. It's like clergy or whatever that expects to live off donations, but in comparison with most other religions, Scientology gives nothing of value to its members and instead just takes and takes.
They would demand of you to cut ties with those who have transgressed against the org. Those dedicated Scientologists, who are very well versed in mind twists and cognitive dissonance, would brush away the previous statement as false, claiming that "you're not forced to do it, you do it out of your own free will" - Yeah right! Because the threat of having you yourself declared if you don't disconnect, and the threat of them taking your "eternity" away from you, is not so bad. You disconnect from your mom because you want to, not because the evil cult bent your hands and forced you into it. Besides, your mom is just the physical body that gave birth to your physical body. What of it? Thetans have no family relations. Remember?
It took me some time after I left to fully formulate all these thoughts but at the time I left I could still feel all those things were true, even when they were not articulated in such a venomous, angry fashion. And when I realized that to be a dedicated, in-KSW 1 Scientologist you have to be willing to give everything away to Scientology, that's when I finally felt OK about leaving.
Scientology plays with the minds of young, naive people, who are often also driven by ideals, and for that it is guilty of fraud. It deprives them of their formative years. Those of us who were smart enough to keep a job outside of Scientology, to keep in touch with our family members, to not lose the friendships with our childhood friends, we had our safety nets when we left. Those of us who were born into it are in a much deeper mud, and to me it is a wonder that they even managed to climb out of it.
I am an atheist, I wish for freedom of thought for all. As a Scientologist I used to think that a Scientology world would be good - Everyone you see on the bus would either a staff member, a Sea Org or a Public. Little did I realize that such a world would have colonies of 1.1s - after the Science of Survival policies, or the social torture that SPs would suffer. I salute the Human nature for seeing Scientology for what it is, and today every person that tells me, "you used to be in Scientology? But that's a cult!" gets a hearty laugh from me as a response. Yes, it is a cult. How clever of you to see that. You're obviously smarter than I was back then, way to go and keep up that attitude. I also gotta say that I love how the spell checker here doesn't recognize words like "Scientologist" and "thetan". Well done spell checker, keep up that attitude.
Thanks to everybody who writes here and shares his story or his 2 cents. I spend a substantial amount of time every day browsing through Scientology stories like yours and I thank you for sharing them. Due to the "toxic Scientology policy of Disconnection", as Tony Ortega often puts it, I cannot give any details in fear that loved ones would have to disconnect from me, so unfortunately I'm not able to share my story in detail. I hope that one day my loved ones would have the same realizations as me, and we would all burst in song and dance and speak the truth about Scientology, using our real names. My nickname on this message board, by the way, is reference to the Garcia Robots in Arthur C. Clarke Rama series, who are healing robots who wear the body of Bonita Garcia, a truth seeker inside the universe of the Rama story. It's also a reference the famous Garcia inside the universe of Scientology, who got the message through against all odds. And it's also a reference to the term "Ron-bot". I guess what this nickname means is... I used to be a Ron-bot, but now I come with the healing message of truth, against all odds - Because it's always quite a feat to break free from mind traps.
Cheers.