Open Letter To C of S

[Reasonable]

....I just found this letter.It looks like it was written a while ago.I thought,it was good.

I wonder if OP still feels the same way?

Actually I still feel the same way except that I don't care to fix anything now. If I want auditing I will go to the freezone and I am much more open to other technologies and I don't think any audititng will make you have the OT abilities described in Dianetics.

I did get wins and I like audiitng but i am not interested in reforming the church they can not be reformed, and they don't need to be destroyed, just desserted.

 

[TheBellMare]

Great Post

Great post, Reasonable. Very honest.

Please be aware that the church that you knew and loved, the church that helped you -- was all the surface stuff that was put in place to hook you in and cause you to become a true believer. Ya always catch more flies with honey. LRH - a brilliant guy - knew that.

While you were being helped on the surface, while you were becoming a true believer of all that "good stuff", the evil undercurrents and twisted policies were all going on at the same time, just hidden from view. LRH was crazy. This became very evident late in his life. All his wonderful tech couldn't help him. He died at the bottom of his own tone scale, in HIDING.

There is no way the CO$ can succeed in the long run and still follow everything LRH wrote. What he wrote is too contradictory. Hypocritical.

Check out the characteristics of a suppressive person from the PTS SP course. The CO$ is now demonstrating all those characteristics.

 

[Zinjifar]

Actually I still feel the same way except that I don't care to fix anything now. If I want auditing I will go to the freezone and I am much more open to other technologies and I don't think any audititng will make you have the OT abilities described in Dianetics.

I did get wins and I like audiitng but i am not interested in reforming the church they can not be reformed, and they don't need to be destroyed, just desserted.

Without a full investigation and prosecution of the 'Church' of Scientology we will never have complete information on the history and crimes of the 'Church' of Scientology.

If then. Fading away is too good for it.

Zinj

 

[Student of Trinity]

What if the problem with Scientology is that the wins you have gotten are all there is? What if that's the best it gets? The OT magic, all that stuff that's supposed to keep you on 'the Bridge' for the long haul to 'total freedom', and make Scientology into a full-fledged religion instead of just a little two-year self-help amateur psychotherapy program based on a crude lie detector gadget — what if none of that Clear and OT stuff is real?

If none of that's real, then Scientology would actually need a lot of harsh and deceptive practices to keep people on board past the earliest stages, because in a world full of lots of self-help programs and lots of religions, the early stage wins just are not enough by themselves to keep the people paying and the business going. If the OT stuff was real, the truth would be more than enough to keep people interested. But if it's not, then maybe all the evil crap would be, not a sad corruption of Scientology ... but the necessary essence?

 

[Mark A. Baker]

What if the problem with Scientology is that the wins you have gotten are all there is? What if that's the best it gets?

Believe me, that would be more than sufficient to justify the use of scientology practices by a thoughtful & intelligent person.

— what if none of that Clear and OT stuff is real?

Clear is "real", although not necessarily in the sense that it is commonly understood. And yes, Hubbard is himself directly responsible for creating the misunderstanding, no doubt in an attempt to sell auditing to others.

However, taking the immortal words of Inigo Montoya and applying them to the scientology state of clear: I do not think that means what you think it means.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Idle Morgue]

Dear Reasonable: Our initial response to your letter was: WE have found that to be the best response to give to anyone potentially questioning our "tech", eh, I mean the tech of LRH.

In an effort to get some of the bypass charge off from this whole Debbie Cook incident, I will respond.

I am afraid it is too late. Can't you see how stupid we are and are making so many mistakes? Recently, we were caught with our pants down with the latest Debbie Cook fiasco. We do regret putting the video (Gold presentation) we taped, showing her signing the "gag order" with no attorney for her, spoon feeding her the "right cognitions" on the internet. Damn, we forgot to ask her if she wanted to lawyer up.

For decades we have been able to do whatever we want to these SO losers. It has been so much fun abusing these useless, defrocked and bitter apostates!

We are so intelligent and know the stupid public will buy our response of denying all claims, suing the crap out of everyone and calling them Bitter, Defrocked Apostates. It is the tech that works for us. (Can you give me a little feedback and let me know if they are buying it?

We do have a little of our attention units on how the public views how we treat our dedicated "volunteers" of 30 years. You know the ones that work for 10 years straight with no days off and bring in millions of dollars for us. They make $10,000 for their service while I have a personal checkbook from the IAS. I command them to extort money out of anyone that comes to FLAG for all 8, when it is really for me.

Not to mention my maid I/C, hair dresser I/C, tanning sprayer I/C, chef I/C and don't forget my nights out with my bff, Tom Cruise. I love having that admiration of an artist cuz I cannot generate my own. Oops, did I just say that? Please disregard. I don't know what is happening to me?

We, the CoS has snapped terminals and cannot see, think or act rational. Our crimes against humanity are too great and we HAVE TO BE RIGHT OR WE WILL DIE!

As you know, criminal minds think alike and everyone that commits overt's in the group for the greatest good of all 8 dyanmics (really there is only 1 dyanamic and it is mine. I have worked exhausting hours check out my web page RTC), will be joining me on the spiral down, decay and death of Scientology. It is just the laws of the physical universe and what some call "karma". It will not be pretty. It may happen quickly or it may be a slow death. We do know death is eminent so anyone on this ship is going down. Look at Hitler, Stalin, and all dicator's who control people and harm them. They eventually cave themselves in! I am going to have fun while I can and I cannot generate my own power so I have to suck all of the power of those around me. Sorry, it is what it is.

So, we will fight to be right and bring everyone down with us. It is just the right thing to do at this point.

With absolutely no ARC because we are not able!

 

[Idle Morgue]

I'm not going back, unless all those things happen and i know they won't. I said that mostly for emphasis. I knwo there is no talking . I was really making a point to get them to see how no communication = no public.

Just for writing this I would spend $7000 in Sec Checks alone. Not a chance I would do that.

no worries

This is not an overt because the current Co$ is a suppressive group based on results. Would you feel bad if your little brother was molested by a catholic priest and you went to a recovery site to vent your grievances? It is called HUMAN RIGHTS. You know, the Freewinds is having Tim Bowles speak about it and it is only
$1,850 if you act today! Seriously, freedom to think, freedom to speak...it is what attracted us to this so-called Church!

If anything, the new and improved C o $ has so much damage to make up above and beyond that you will get your money back, get your bridge done for nothing and DM will shine your shoes.