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OSA Investigations "Enemy" Point System Document

Discussion in 'Office of Special Affairs' started by SweetnessandLight, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    The so called "First Policy" appeared, not in 1950, but in HCOPL of 2 September 1970.

    The overt/covert model for Scientology dates back to 1938, when Hubbard wrote of his (hidden) "real goal." There's nothing contradictory about Hubbard having Charles Reisdorf push a peanut around the deck of the Royal Scotsman with his nose (later Apollo), and his writing 'What is Greatness?'

    It's a pattern, a paradigm, a template, a design. One carefully constructed, brick by brick, over many years. 'Battle Tactics' of February 1969 does not conflict with 'First Policy' of September 1970. 'Fair Game' (1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, etc.) and "What is Greatness?' (1966) are not contradictory; they are complementary, One is covert, The other is overt (publicized.)
     
  2. Mystic

    Mystic Crusader

    BFG so cool.

    He came, he saw, he conquered.
     
  3. Amen to that, Ted!

    Amen to that, brother....amen. :yes:
     
  4. Ted

    Ted Gold Meritorious Patron

    I should have been more careful in editing. The men were not just pushing a peanut, they were pushing it with their noses! That makes a huge difference to anyone not familiar with the story.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2010
  5. Yes, while down on their hands and knees on the splintery deck...
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2010
  6. thefiredragon

    thefiredragon Patron Meritorious

    WoW!
    You sure have lots of points!
     
  7. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    And in so doing, OSA takes somebody who might have had a passing annoyance with Scn, and transforms him into a sworn, lifelong enemy. Major footbullet.

    This sort of stuff only works short-term, and only to the extent that the OSA action is such that the target is intimidated into eternal silence, AND the target has no friends who get pissed off at the OSA attack. If the targets ever lose their fear of OSA, then you have the current phenomenon.

    OSA creates enemies wholesale while "handling" people retail.
     
  8. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    A "pure" covert operation would begin and be completed without any visible connection to Scientology. That means the person would know that stuff was happening, but wouldn't know its source.

    Once it became a matter of public record, then Scientology - as an apparent bystander - would comment, in its "PR."

    That's the way it's supposed to "work."

    Mainly, people hear about the times it didn't "work."

    "Tech is out in Orgs" right now, so this tech - to some extent - is "out" too.

    In this thread, however, I wasn't debating the degree of success of this particular part of Scientology tech, only attempting to describe the relationship of Scientology PR tech to Scientology Intel tech. :)
     
  9. Thank you!

    Thanks, Veda, for doing so! It helps me to see things clearer and understand the current situation more. :)
    I hope it will be informative for others, as well.
     
  10. Good Point Enthetan!

    Good point Enthetan- does anybody who really knows about them have any respect left for the people who are planning and carrying out OSA operations, whether from the "justice" or "legal" (there's an oxymoron!), Intelligence gathering or Public Relations aspects of OSA?

    No-one I know, even in the general public, once they understand the truth of what the entity we know as OSA is and does, here in America and abroad, feels anything about them other than they, including everyone they hire or conscript as "volunteers", should be fully investigated, prosecuted and imprisoned for multiple criminal activities, likely under the RICO act.

    No blatent criminal activity of that depth and magnitude can prosper for long.
     
  11. FinallyFree

    FinallyFree Gold Meritorious Patron

    WAIT! I am an attacker because I post my opinion, thoughts and experiences?

    So basically ANYONE who does not agree 100% with scientology is an attacker? My, that will be a very long list indeed.

    OSA would be prudent to simply list all those in good standing and then shoot at everyone else.
     
  12. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Silver Meritorious Sponsor

    That would be 'out-PR'

    Zinj
     
  13. Shredder

    Shredder Patron with Honors

    No (LRH) Policy regarding the Internet

    Ah, so all things are possible.

    Thank God for free speech and human rights.


    I guess that LRH in all his wisdomology and arrogance

    never suspected that one person or that an individual

    could have such freedom of speech

    and have alignment with the many other individuals

    reaching all the way from from one side of the world

    to the other to help each other.


    Ahhh thank god we are in the age of the Inter(national)net.
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2010
  14. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    Yes, that is exactly right. You ARE an attacker, to them, exactly BECAUSE you post YOUR heartfelt opinion, thoughts and experiences that aren't 100% glowingly supportive of or in agreement with all things LRH, Scientology, David Miscavige and International Scientology Management!

    That is exactly how it functions. Remember, Scientology is the ONLY group on the planet with a "disagreement remedy", which are a set of auditing processes designed to find, address and handle ANY and ALL disagreements with ANYTHING about Scientology. Though, I suppose in very oppressive political regimes (not uncommon on planet Earth), the most efficient "disagreement remedy" is a bullet to the brain.

    A key basic slant or bias in Scientology is that everything about it is 100% valid, totally "right", "beyond error", and THUS BEYOND QUESTIONING. Sincere questioning, no matter how valid, is viewed and interpreted by them AS criticism and attack. If you see something as an outpoint, mention it, and bring it to their attention, then YOU become the subject of the investigation! Simple basic Scientology behavior as directed by Hubby Dub the Tubby Flub.

    The moment you attempt to shine any light onto Scientology in any way, in a questioning manner, no matter how sincere or honest or legitimate, then YOU find yourself quickly under THEIR shining light of questioning and inspection. That is the way it has always been, due to EXACT LRH policy direction in the area.

    Many ex-members started his or her "road out", by noticing and bringing some obvious outpoint to the attention of some staff member, HCO or RTC. Often the concerned ex-member was trying to "help" in some way, to "correct" what they saw as a deficiency. But as always, as per EXACT LRH instruction in the matter, ANY and ALL questioning is seen as "bad", and as being a sign of "disaffection". Disaffection from what? Disaffection from the 100% unquestioning attitude and total acceptance of whatever Hubbard and INT management say "is the truth".

    The concept of "disaffection" is a BIG DEAL in Scientology. It means not being aligned 100% with the current rah-rah-rah viewpoint being pushed down the Scientology command channels. Of course, these days, there are just SO MANY disaffected people, that it is utterly impossible for them (the C of S) to EVER have any hope of "cleaning up the (muddied) field".

    "You are either with us or you are against us". THAT is a key attitude inherent in the severe absolutist vision of Scientology. It is an insane attitude, as it leaves no slightest wiggle room for any personal deviation of viewpoint from the tight little box of enforced Scientology beliefs, attitudes and agreements. To understand the key basic Scientology beliefs, see:

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=15476

    Within the context of "you are either with us or you are against us", of course, ANY questioning in any form, takes on the color of an "enemy" to these imbeciles. Thus, questioning, and ALL expressions of free speech, are impossible with the framework of Hubbard's Scientology network. :grouch:

    It will probably always be that way until the last OSA staff member walks out of the finally dissolved and collapsed Church of Scientology.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2010
  15. Ted

    Ted Gold Meritorious Patron


    It is important -- my perspective of course -- to appreciate the traits of the narcissistic personality. Scientology, Hubbard's alter-ego, is a reflection of his narcissism.

    You might as well have used the text on this web site by Joanna Ashmun as an outline for your writing above.

    Here's a bit from that web site. Red highlights are my addition:

    Narcissists are (a) extremely sensitive to personal criticism and (b) extremely critical of other people. They think that they must be seen as perfect or superior or infallible, next to god-like (if not actually divine, then sitting on the right hand of God) -- or else they are worthless. There's no middle ground of ordinary normal humanity for narcissists. They can't tolerate the least disagreement. In fact, if you say, "Please don't do that again -- it hurts," narcissists will turn around and do it again harder to prove that they were right the first time; their reasoning seems to be something like "I am a good person and can do no wrong; therefore, I didn't hurt you and you are lying about it now..." -- sorry, folks, I get lost after that. Anyhow, narcissists are habitually cruel in little ways, as well as big ones, because they're paying attention to their fantasy and not to you, but the bruises on you are REAL, not in your imagination. Thus, no matter how gently you suggest that they might do better to change their ways or get some help, they will react in one of two equally horrible ways: they will attack or they will withdraw. Be wary of wandering into this dragon's cave -- narcissists will say ANYTHING, they will trash anyone in their own self-justification, and then they will expect the immediate restoration of the status quo. They will attack you (sometimes physically) and spew a load of bile, insult, abuse, contempt, threats, etc., and then -- well, it's kind of like they had indigestion and the vicious tirade worked like a burp: "There. Now I feel better. Where were we?" They feel better, so they expect you to feel better, too. They will say you are nothing, worthless, and turn around immediately and say that they love you. When you object to this kind of treatment, they will say, "You just have to accept me the way I am. (God made me this way, so God loves me even if you are too stupid to understand how special I am.)" Accepting them as they are (and staying away from them entirely) is excellent advice. The other "punishment" narcissists mete out is banishing you from their glorious presence -- this can turn into a farce, since by this point you are probably praying to be rescued, "Dear God! How do I get out of this?" The narcissist expects that you will be devastated by the withdrawal of her/his divine attention, so that after a while -- a few weeks or months (i.e., the next time the narcissist needs to use you for something) -- the narcissist will expect you to have learned your lesson and be eager to return to the fold. If you have learned your lesson, you won't answer that call. They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who has the problem and needs to change. Therapies work at all only when the individual wants to change and, though narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they want the world to change. And they criticize, gripe, and complain about almost everything and almost everyone almost all the time. There are usually a favored few whom narcissists regard as absolutely above reproach, even for egregious misconduct or actual crime, and about whom they won't brook the slightest criticism. These are people the narcissists are terrified of, though they'll tell you that what they feel is love and respect; apparently they don't know the difference between fear and love. Narcissists just get worse and worse as they grow older; their parents and other authority figures that they've feared die off, and there's less and less outside influence to keep them in check.
     
  16. Gadfly

    Gadfly Crusader

    Great point Ted, about Hubbard's narcissistic personality. :thumbsup:

    This explanation and view aligns well with easily observable patterns of behavior with him and the Church of Scientology. How can any person fail to see this? :duh:
     
  17. Great Points!

    Thanks, Gadfly and Ted, for those excellent posts. :clap:

    Lurkers, LOOK, don't think! :) Read everything you can get your hands on about Corporate Scientology, and then make up your own minds if it is a group you should be a part of and support, with your money, time and talents! :thumbsup:
     
  18. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    A discussion of the overt (visible)/covert(hidden) nature of Scientology:

     
  19. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Part 2:

     
  20. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Part 3: