OSA Operatives: How-to Guide

[Voltaire's Child]

I generally refer to that mindset as bogeyman-ology. Contributors to cyberforums are often prone to it.

 

[Smitty]

comment to Veda

"OSA trolls" - or whatever - are small potatoes.
Just as Scientology Inc. has hired non-Scientologist PIs (private investigators), and hired non-Scientologist professional "scholars," so has Scientology hired non-Scientology public relations people to do various things.
Here's an approach that is being used on the broad Internet:
1) Ridicule ("criticize") Scientology.
2) Eventually, add that - after "criticizing" - that Scientology, as a subject, really is OK, but has been misunderstood, and that most Scientologists don't represent it well - "broken straws," etc.
This is supposed take the wind out of people's sails on Scientology, since they (dissenters, critics, etc.) will have, at first, agreed with the "ridiculing" or "critical" message, only to be subtly undermined.
Well done, it's an effective technique, and one described by Hubbard, as late as 1983, in his 'Advices', with examples of sending out alarming news releases (pre-Internet) re. Scientology, only to come back with the news that the alarm was unnecessary, and that Scientology is really OK.
On the Internet, this works with "ridicule" also.
Don't underestimate the effectiveness of really slick professional manipulative PR techniques.

Very accurate observations, Veda.
May I add: scientology pr = manipulative pr

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Any PR can be manipulative because it is propaganda.

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

OSA Operatives: How-to Guide

Firstly;
Attend any public meeting/forum/discussion that might possibly touch upon scn and successfully steer the talk away from anything negative about scn if it appears to be heading in this direction. (Positive talk about scn was the arena of PR).

Secondly;
One method of handling a target Critic.
Contact the target Critic by phone, pretending to be a fellow-critic. Agree with the person’s criticisms of scn and voice your own (*see note on “suitable criticisms” below).

Been there, done that.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[byte301]

Thanks for this thread, Panda. It is an important one. I have seen a lot of those techniques used on here and on WWP. It did take me some time to spot what was happening.

And if anyone is still in doubt about whether or not OSA is lurking on these forums...I was namefagged by some things I posted. And I was namefagged by the person I posted about AND she, Patty Baber, (oh hai Patty!)namefagged me on youtube!! lol So I have no doubt they are here. I don't care that I was namefagged. It was funny to tell the truth, but I'm small potatoes in the grand scheme of things while others here are not.

I did get a dog and some curtains none-the-less and I keep an eye out these days.

I don't underestimate OSA and no one else should either.

 

[Lynn Fountain Campbell]

Hey Jakadak

To make the link

[URL="http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=7617"]crimes within CofS thread[/URL]

Cut and paste that into your signature and it will link

Thanks ttamaad. I just edited my signature, and this will bump this thread back to the top of the list again.

Lynn

 

[Martini]

I don't underestimate OSA and no one else should either.

OSA better not underestimate me, that's how I feel about it.

 

[degraded being]

Again the point: much finger pointing at people with opinions that are not the majority, NO proof.

And why would those folk be so blatant?

More likely if there are OSA tasked here, they are much more subtle.

As to OT's, meet me tonight at mid night behind the moon and I'll show you some tricks....what? you cant exteriorize? Well how the heck do you expect to even perceive spiritual phenomenon?

BS.

 

[Martini]

* The things on the list of “suitable criticisms” were just general, already widely published views about scn. The only thing that was forbidden was any mention of LRH, that was to be avoided if possible but, of course, it never was. The sci-fi writer background or the “why write for pennies, if you want to get really rich just start your own religion” quote were the most common criticisms of LRH at the time. You listened to it and even agreed but never contributed to this particular line of criticism. Of course, we knew nothing about the abuse and exploitation exposed in later years, we thought we were saving mankind.

That's interesting. I guess they don't like it when we talk about other stuff like him dying with a psyche drug in his system or that he had some strokes. Or how crazy he acted in the later years. Perhaps that b.s. college story, the trumped up military stories, etc. were too controversial as well? It's funny to hear how they put those rules in. It makes them to easy to detect to have such rules, maybe they cancelled them by now.

 

[Martini]

It's possibly true that there's really not too much to fear from the current OSA crew

bingo

Note to those who have already "outed" themselves and experienced no apparent backlash:
Often in the past the GO would leave a known enemy in place simply because he/she was a useful data collection point. I believe the actual term is honey-pot or some such. All you have to do is befriend this apparently safe person, he/she attracts dissidents and so makes collecting names a simple matter. Listen for the sound of the slowly falling shoe.

Good lord, way to try to create a dangerous environment.

People need to stop acting PTS. Fuck OSA.

 

[Panda Termint]

bingo



Good lord, way to try to create a dangerous environment.

People need to stop acting PTS. Fuck OSA.

Really, Martini, it appears that you've somehow arrived at the idea that you actually had something worthwhile to contribute to this thread, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken!
Your selective, out-of-context excerpting of parts of my posts is not appreciated and is liable to expose you for what you really are!
If you're going to use selected sentences or sections for quotes, please note that you've snipped the original post.

 

[Martini]

Really, Martini, it appears that you've somehow arrived at the idea that you actually had something worthwhile to contribute to this thread, I'm afraid you're sadly mistaken!
Your selective, out-of-context excerpting of parts of my posts is not appreciated and is liable to expose you for what you really are!
If you're going to use selected sentences or sections for quotes, please note that you've snipped the original post.

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[Panda Termint]

You should probably read the Original Post that started this thread, that'll clue you in a bit better.

 

[Veda]

I'm not going to go into details, but (*first hand, not through the Internet*), I know of two recent incidents, IRL.

One is a burglary (of Hubbard reel to reel lecture tapes, and other items, documents, etc.) from a person's residence within the last year. (Two well-dressed clean-cut large men were seen carrying boxes out a side door and driving off.)

The other, also within the last year, is an incident of harassment, where a person (while paying a social visit to a well known former Scientology member), was held at an airport (overseas) for ten hours - as a "security risk" - due to a mysterious phone call that identified this person as a "terrorist."

'Scientology - Above the law?' video, 1999 - Note the beginning, up to 1:10 (sometimes is necessary to click top):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5694888509800082473

Scientology hasn't changed. It can't. It's a sociopathic organization with a sociopathic doctrine.

One thing it can't stop doing is lying.

A tiny amount of background (There's much more) Note video up to about 2:02:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4595729596527335458

And this one for more background. (Note about 6:20 to about 8:00 on video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF99yYCE8wI

And a little more background:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaj--EDMhME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Drk3eVQSg

 

[Martini]

It's a shame if people read this shit and get scared of posting.

 

[Feral]

It's a shame if people read this shit and get scared of posting.

Do you even think that is possible?

Did you get scared of people when you learned that there were SPs?

Knowledge empowers one. I am all for ex GO and OSA exposing their bag of dirty tricks.....aren't you?

 

[Veda]

It's a shame if people read this shit and get scared of posting.

I'm not scared of Scientology Inc. in the least, but I know what Scientology Inc. is, and how it operates.

Martini wants to make people frightened of reading any confidential "OT" materials on the Net.

However, he doesn't want anyone thinking about "OSA."

He's concerned that a description of a sociopathic organization's (mostly covert) activities, and its mental-healing wrapped sociopathic doctrine, might frighten people away from posting on the Net.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

 

[Carmel]

It's a shame if people read this shit and get scared of posting.

Do you expect any of us to believe that you seriously consider ignorance to be a good thing? Or are you just 'joking' again?

 

[Loftycrane]

Oh yeah sad. Hey Osa doesn't sound too bad after all. Just a little pushing in of anchor points and helping people with disabilities.

Do you mean "Not as bad as your original estimate" OR are you inferring that my post tended to minimize the harm done by OSA?

Either way could you please give your viewpoint.

 

[degraded being]

Do you mean "Not as bad as your original estimate" OR are you inferring that my post tended to minimize the harm done by OSA?

Either way could you please give your viewpoint.

No.