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OSA WUS CSW from 1989

Discussion in 'Important documents' started by Martin-O, Jul 16, 2016.

  1. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Snow White, the non secret ("legal," "overt") program, was never discontinued. The secret (covert and, often, illegal) Snow White operation was also never discontinued. For example:

    See 0.00 to 0.35

    By any chance, do you happen to have any SP Declares from the 1960s and 1970s?

    For example...

    Randomly located on the Internet, here's Eileen Vernjack's SP Declare from 1972:

    "...they cannot be granted the rights and beingness ordinarily accorded rational beings..."

    There are many more from the time before the early 1980s. Some one needs to begin assembling these before they are lost forever. :)
  2. ethercat

    ethercat Cat in flight

    That's fine, unless maybe you want to group OSA-related documents by operation; for instance (and I don't know what you have), all OSA dox related to Paulette Cooper in one thread, etc.

    Yes, basically what Moderator 3375 said:

    If there is a place online elsewhere that the complete HCOBs or HCOPLs are posted, a link to the complete thing would be good. There's a freezone site in another country that has complete works, but I can't remember where it is right now, maybe someone else knows, or else I can look for it.

    ESMB's server is in the US, so we have to go by US Copyright law, which is vague at best as to what is actually fair use. The way it's written, basically, if it's questionable whether it's fair use, and the owner decides to make an issue of it, you'll find out when a judge rules. We want to avoid having to get that far. :unsure:
  3. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    This doesn’t really surprise me for several reasons. It was an original LRH order. These can have a life of their own and even though they may constitute that “Hidden Data Line” that theoretically doesn’t exist, they may be regarded as infallible just like Policy Letters and Technical Bulletins.

    Snow White was always represented to Scientologists and staff as a noble fight against oppression and government conspiracy that went awry due to rogue elements in the GO and an overzealous government response over the "theft" of copy paper. It would make sense that it would be continued as a “reformed” effort to carry out LRH’s original pure intent.

    Ursula nails it:

    Ursula Caberta.jpg

    Ursula Caberta - “Scientology is a new type of political extremism. If their political aims were implemented, we’d be living in Europe or elsewhere, in a sort of psycho-dictatorship."
  4. Chris Shelton

    Chris Shelton Patron with Honors

    Well that is damn interesting news. I had always assumed (stupidly) that once the GO got nailed that they would have cancelled that BS, but of course they didn't. Still have to comply with the Old Man's crazy orders no matter how many dead bodies get stacked up on the front porch, lol. I'd just never seen these internal OSA orders and communications. These are fascinating. Please continue posting.
  5. pineapple

    pineapple Silver Meritorious Patron

    Complete set of tech vols. (red vols) here.