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VaD

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And so are we.

(I mean to say that your point is a non sequitur. You asked why the Osama Bin Laden thing was a big deal to us. And I answered it. Period.)

- I still don't understand WHY Bin Laden is such a big deal. - It's presented as a *big deal* not only to US but to the World at large.

Why?
 

Voltaire's Child

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I'm bowing out of this discussion now as I've answered the questions in which I had an interest. As to the rest, it's getting into a "Well, nyah nyah" political thing and I find such discussions to be...well, Not My Thing.

I get enough political rhetoric at home and am none too happy about that, either.
 

VaD

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I'm bowing out of this discussion now as I've answered the questions in which I had an interest. As to the rest, it's getting into a "Well, nyah nyah" political thing and I find such discussions to be...well, Not My Thing.

I get enough political rhetoric at home and am none too happy about that, either.

I'm glad you have had this realization.
 

VaD

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I'm looking at all this and at how law-abiding US citizrns react to it, and I say... WOW! - What the F**k is with humanity? Is it totally degraded to "either we them, or they us"?

- How can we live in peace with each other?
 

SomeGuy

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Yeah!

Le's keep finding faults in one another.

It's all good.

It serves the purpose. - The purpose to make us fight against each other.

This is what usually amuses me. The thought that US is a monolithic place where we all think alike. By your post you seem to suffer from this dilusion.

Just like your lovely russia, some agree, some rejoice, some disagree but most? They don't give a shit or they forget that cheerleeding an assasination is highly flawed.

Let's keep on thinking that the world is simple and can be homoginized by some posts on a message board.
 

VaD

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This is what usually amuses me. The thought that US is a monolithic place where we all think alike. By your post you seem to suffer from this dilusion.

Just like your lovely russia, some agree, some rejoice, some disagree but most? They don't give a shit or they forget that cheerleeding an assasination is highly flawed.

Let's keep on thinking that the world is simple and can be homoginized by some posts on a message board.

I didn't understand what you were trying to say.
 

VaD

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Saddam Hussein is dead.

Osama Bin Laden is dead.

What does US want? That every terrorist was dead?

Ok. WHO PAYS FOR IT? - You! American citizens. Don't you understand?

- You pay for every motion of your government that's voted "for".
- They vote for ever motion that is good financially.
- Money is the only God to those who vote.
 

justsayin'

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Saddam Hussein is dead.

Osama Bin Laden is dead.

What does US want? That every terrorist was dead?

Ok. WHO PAYS FOR IT? - You! American citizens. Don't you understand?

- You pay for every motion of your government that's voted "for".
- They vote for ever motion that is good financially.
- Money is the only God to those who vote.

sounds like "VaDosophy".
 

VaD

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I'm just curious - what do Americans think about other citizens of the world?

Seems like US citizens don't think of them (Non-US) much (and don't consider them as beings As good as they are - all powerfull and ever significant)
 
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thank you VC

Like:
• Oct 2010 - Six people killed as militants storm parliament in Chechnya, North Caucasus

• Mar 2010 - Suicide bombings at two Moscow metro stations kill 40 people; attack blamed on North Caucasus militants

• Nov 2009 - Bomb blast hits Moscow-St Petersburg luxury express train, killing 26; North Caucasus Islamist group claims responsibility

• Sept 2004 - Chechen rebels seize school in Beslan; 334 hostages, including many children, killed in ensuing battle

• Aug 2004 - Suicide bomber blows herself up at a Moscow metro station, killing 10

• Aug 2004 - Two Tupolev airliners that took off from Domodedovo blown up in mid-air by suicide bombers, killing 89 passengers and crew

Most likely, the Russians have been dealing with the terrorists in their own way. The difference between how they deal with it and the US may be that they don't announce to the world when they assassinate the bad guys. I'd put money on a bet that the Russian FSB and SVR do plenty of killing out of sight.

i'm glad at least one of my fellow americans on ths thred is paying sober intelligent attention
 
thank you kutta

What absolute total bullshit. This kind of thing is so appalling - coming from presumably intelligent persons, it is doubly so.

there are small minority of those who know me who think me intelligent.

this post has a jocular tone and i will not delete it but your plaint is cogent apt and jut
 
and furthermore...

there are TSTO diplomatic protocols. i was given to understand back in october of 2001 that we recognized tacitly rather than explicitly the cultural traditions by which osama could be given haven. in point of fact we learned of his location by way of identifying one of his couriers thus demonstrating that his actions violated the terms of the haven tradition. this now produces many awkward sidesteps publicly between the US and pakistan, but the bottom line is:

we are ok with what pakistan did

pakistan is ok with what we did

why is bin laden so "important"?

because he is part of the wahabbist call to jihad, holy war

800 brits died 9/11.

it is not mere coincidence osama was nailed the weekend of a royal weekend

the same weekend pope benedict beatifed john paul

and the jihad and 9/11 were an assault on christendom

oh, it's really all about oil and the oil companies isn't it?

no, no, it's all about american imperialism isn't it?

no, no, it's all about the rockefeller illuminati bilderberger new world order isn't it?

no.

whatever human effort condensed these three events, there is a transcendent and sacred dimension to this convergence.

we have answered jihad with jihad.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

god save the queen
 
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