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OT IX 'Orders of Magnitude' and OT X 'Character' to be released

Discussion in 'Leaks - Emails, Promo, Insider Info' started by ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    To be perfectly honest I'm not sure exactly how I came to be in possession of that bit of information, maybe your story, maybe another post. Didn't you have blonde hair? I have the faintest of faint memories of you sitting at reception.

    Were you there in '69? I was there during the summer of that year doing the initial Standard Dianetics Course, in which case we would have seen each other several times per day.

    As a receptionist you would have known lots of people's names. My memory is shocking but I remember one student - an Aussie - I was on course with called Malcolm Legge, do you remember him?
  2. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    My memory isn't good either, I am better with faces as that was what I dealt with all the time. Yes I was there 69 and moved to Qual and did the same job, looking after celebs and pcs and stuff. Sent a pm. :)
  3. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Ah, SH Qual. Malin Gelfan was qual sec if I remember correctly. I quite fancied her, and because I'd lived in Sweden for a while I used to chat her up in Swedish, but she just looked at me as though I'd just crawled out from under a stone. :(
  4. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    Hahaha, she looked at everyone like that! Me included. She was nice though. I think being 'an executive' made some people seem grim.
    We're going to derail this thread ... better hit the hay over here. :biggrin:
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2016
  5. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    Yes, perhaps you're right. Nighty night, sleep tight!
  6. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    Yes, that old Own Goals GPM thing of 3M would be better and safer done solo . . . I ran the shit in '62-'63 as originally released. It's a killer and actually incorrect tech. As you all know, Hubbs bailed out of it the end of April '63 and told us we'd been only handling implants . . . and took us off to Heaven:biggrin::melodramatic:

    The tech that is correct and workable solo is what I spoke on in the 2009 FZ conference in Pasadena . . . it's Alan's or my version of handling the Games Matrices we have ourselves locked up in.

    One must realize that Hubbs never actually handled the identities/Beingness that got "found" as "Reliable Items" in his own Goals GPM line-plot shite . . . they got left on the case exposed and loaded with BPC. Bad move!:ohmy: :omg:

    Alan's and my Games Matrix tech actually handles the identities/Beingnesses one developed in playing the games and also specifically pulls off the locked up opposing of the Beingnesses one to the other.

    But, even then, one still has to handle the earlier states of Being and Domains of Existence prior to the Physical Universe . . . . and Hubbs completely missed that. His tech is based all inside of the MEST Universe! :angry::omg:

  7. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    If...the end result of OT8 is finding out who you are not...?

    Then I would imagine that what ever the Cult releases at OT 9 and 10.....would be something rather simple...Especially for OT 9

    Something more on the order of the Sunshine Rundown.

    I think the Cult would want to give those who have waited so long....some sort of simple immediate win.

    I don't think the Cult would release an OT 9....that is some slog fest....

    I don't think the Cult would release some major technical level....That OTHERS in the Cult would have to witness taking months or years to complete. I don't think the Cult would want other public to wonder....what was going on....or when will the first one "finish."

    In other words...some sort of a "PR" value....OT re-solidify adherents to the Cult...
  8. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    How long did it stay that way, six months, a year, more ???

  9. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    Are these "secrets of the universe" secret or are they in the public domain, humbly tendered for the benefit and advancement of all trapped in the Physical Universe?

    The reason I ask is that this year I dropped in on the SAND Conference (A New Paradigm in Spirituality: The Meeting of Modern Science & Ancient Wisdom) to visit with a friend who was attending. From what I can tell, all the speakers, researchers and scientists were openly speaking about their "cutting-edge researches" into spirituality and quantum physics very openly and for the benefit of all the attendees.

    None had "pay walls" hiding their discoveries at the expense of people benefiting from their "spiritual breakthroughs." Of course, you could buy a book but that was expected.

    With all due respect, is the Games Matrix Technology a discovery that is free for all or is it a "pay for play" tech?
    If it's pay for play, why is that? :shrug:

    Color me curious.

    As I observed at SAND, most of the spiritual thinkers in the world freely offer their "discoveries" at events and in their books.

    PS: I'm not necessarily a believer in SAND or its spiritual researchers, but I'm mildly curious and did enjoy meeting everyone there, including Deepak Chopra. It was an eyeopening experience, though not earth shattering. Like all things spiritual nowadays, there are cult-like characteristics among its attendees. And I for one, would notice that right away. It was a fun loving event though if not taken too seriously. Great food too! Loved seeing my old friend.
  10. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    I've written about this many times before. I'll go ahead and CS you now. :coolwink:

    Do Old OT 4, 5, 6 and 7 (renamed as OT 9, 10, 11, 12 or so).

    Old OT 4 -- Certainty of Self as a Being
    Old OT 5 -- Extroversion from the MEST Universe
    Old OT 6 -- Ability to Operate Exterior
    Old OT 7 -- Rehabilitation of Intention

    If any complaints, disappointments with the results or
    an inability to do these levels, then earlier grades are out.

    Need more sec checks and more time on Solo NOTS.

    Quite simple. :shrug:
  11. Mimsey Borogrove

    Mimsey Borogrove Crusader

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    Why not? They have been in mothballs long enough so that only a few can say:"Hey! What is this? I did that back in the 70's."

  12. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

  13. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    If you mean the mass of people, not that much longer really. I arrived in October 1968 and that was past the peak and it went downhill from there over a few years.
  14. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    When I was there (1972-86) they used to make a big deal about the period 1964-66 being the boom years.

  15. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    Well, ya see, in Ronnie's day they only had nuclear physics, so Hubs related everything to that. The atom bombs from Zenu and all that, All about radiation, End of Track when nuclear bombs showed up but Hubbard didn't have the advanced science to advance Scientology so....

    Today we have Quantum Physics so spirituality can advance now because science has.

    This means that the Modern Science of mental and Spiritual Health has found Quantum Physics and String Theory so we can now have spiritual advancement in the sub atomic level.

    Seems spirituality only advances with science. YMMV.

    Watch out for Quarks, the next spiritual advancement.:coolwink:

  16. freethinker

    freethinker Sponsor

    OK, from this, and subsequent posts it seems the Hey Day was about 2 years.

    The Wiki article helped fill in how the policies became from the events of the time.

    Now I understand the background of the policies and that it mainly stemmed from the UK and not the usA.

    St Hill never recovered to its Hey Day self.

    I think it is supposed to be St Hill Size now but I doubt it really is or it lasted maybe three weeks until the imports had to go back to the orgs they were stolen from.

  17. Lord Xenu

    Lord Xenu Patron Meritorious

    Yes it was quite a buzz there for a while. But it was a more innocent time. And the internet didn't exist.
  18. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    Well, MY LOVE TO . . . .

    I thought you knew :p

    The Games matrix stuff I posted here on ESMB all for FREE . . . that is, for those brave enough to dive in, but who would be wise to be sure they knew WTF before doing so.

    This is the tech write up concerning Games Matrix presentation at the FZ Conference in Pasadena . . . videos, write-ups and charts (all for free, humbly tended for the good of yous as you cite of the guys at the SAND Conference above).

    This is my Corrections to more workable tech which has free tech on fixing Hubbard's shit.

    Alan's Gods In Disguise Book is available, and deals with and delineates the earlier universes. All needed data is on my Knowledgism Forum here: . . . . register in and let me know the nic you use and I'll upgrade you to the area where the true goodies are available. What we are doing on this forum is making the tech available for free and teaching guys to solo it all . . . though, truth is, it would be irresponsible to put guys into the heavy-duty stuff without proper set-up, hence we have levels of access on the forum.

    The truth is, we really are dealing with living lightning at the Games Matrix level . . . it is what caved folks in in 1962-63 Own Goals GPMs . . . . so guys need to be set up and hatted properly.

    Also, to be honest, I am in touch with guys like Rupert Sheldrake, Dean Radin and that lot and do attend and have contact with the usual suspects as you mention . . . . and the one thing I will say is that, these guys, valiant as they are in their research, they are predominantly into "think about" . . . they do not have an accurate understanding of the spiritual powers that got fugged-up and encysted and are nowhere near contacting and dealing with the enormous spiritual energy/charge that can explode off or envelope a person if the real deal that has to be handled is mishandled.

    I lived through that early shit in Scn . . . getting blown out of your chair or having the physical universe disappear or having the cans in your hands melted by released charge gives you an idea of what has to be correctly handled.

    If truly interested PM me . . . and/or go to the

    At the forum you will be able to read all the discourse we engage in while helping guys benefit from the tech . . . and you get the truth about their progress and what they are handling.

    One of the key players/sponsors of The SAND conference you spoke of is the Inst. of Noetic Sciences that operates in conjunction with various Universities link: . . . these guys are serious scientists and clinicians dealing with spiritual research and healing in the medical arts, etc., etc.

  19. This is NOT OK !!!!

    This is NOT OK !!!! Gold Meritorious Patron

    I wen to their wedding!

    It was very strange because it happened the weekend of the LA Riots and the whole LA basin was on curfew from dusk - dawn. I drove to CC Int where Ruth, Bill and their daughter were staying in a suite of rooms. Ceremony on the balcony and then Bill hired a whole fleet of Limos to take everyone (with police escort) to a hotel in Beverly Hills for a very nice reception. Then back in the limos to CC and THEN I drove after dark back to the Glendale area to get home. I was pretty nervous, but was not stopped.

    I was friendly with Bill and was sad to hear he had died.

    He told me some very interesting stories about being a border agent in the Mexicali area before he became rich in the title re-conveyance industry.
  20. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    Re: Meet Burt McKevitt, your new Scientology OT VIII, IX and X D of T

    OK, I see your four-part post outlines the basics of what you're doing. I'll read it one day soon.

    Will satisfy my curiosity, I'm sure. :thumbsup:

    I mostly wondered what it was and what happened to it all after Alan passed.

    I sure noticed that.

    One of the Skype video presentations was Ken Wilbur in a near death bed state (cancer). I could never understand a single paragraph the guy wrote. Hence, useless for me.

    My friend wants me to go to SAND next year in Rome, but to be honest, I'm not sure what he's getting out of it. I can sit home and read a book or watch a YouTube video and "grok" the points just as easily (if there even are points to be groked) and save a few thousand.

    There's no result to SAND events in my opinion other than just "thinking about things" and speculating. People don't sprout wings.

    If I were more motivated, I'm sure I could get up on stage and do a presentation entitled ILove2Lurk: A Brief History of Everything.

    But on second thought, I shan't. Everything is already in my posts. :wink2: