Past lives

[Type4_PTS]

I'm not saying it's factual it's just that no past lives that any Scientologists are running are theirs for the most part and virtually all Scientologists don't know that themselves.

So what are you saying? I didn't really meet JFK, Judy Garland, and Jesus after they were reincarnated?

 

[PirateAndBum]

To say that no past lives anyone is running are theirs is open to debate. That OT VIII's say none of it was their "own track" doesn't mean that's true either.

I think the best test is to have your own OOBE and see for yourself. Beyond that it's belief and wait and see.

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Try this thread and preferably read the underlying research. It's quite compelling.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/life-between-lives-—-dr-michael-newton.11252/

Paul

I agree with Newton's observations but not his conclusions. He posits that our time on earth is a "journey" away from our "spiritual home" between lives -- so instead of our sojourns elsewhere becoming interruptions in lives, lives become an interruption in our sojourns elsewhere. (Newton doesn't give this elsewhere a name, so I call it Newtonia.)

He seems to feel that Newtonia is a place where we are "educated" and "perfected" as spirits, but it's clear to me that we are "degraded" and eventually extinguished as beings. It is a place to be avoided, and if there are life lessons to be learned, just tell me in a few short paragraphs -- no need to spend a whole lifetime (usually a lifetime of suffering) to learn something.

Helena

 

[guanoloco]

Yes, but during the mid 1950s Hubbard said there were not other thetans in the body.

He had written about "entities" in 1952 but didn't think they, and their "track," were important.

Only during his post-Southern Africa nervous breakdown (1967) did he start seeing "Body Thetans" and regard them as a problem, and it wasn't until his second nervous breakdown in 1978 (after the FBI raids) that he saw the universe as "crawling" with "fleas" as he called them.

Hubbard's promise of true "OT" in a few years was not happening, so he needed to invent an explanation, which was that everyone on Earth was in a lot worse shape than was originally thought.

It was a bottomless pit as each failure was followed by a grimmer and grimmer "explanation."

From the Incredible String Band's I Looked up album of 1970.
At that time I don't think Robin Williamson would have done OT 3 yet,
and there was not yet any "NOTs" with its "fleas,"
so that dismal darkness would not have yet had its influence.

Not only that but the whole BT thing is inconsistent with Scientology Theta/MEST theory that says basics on the chain have all the charge while later incidents are locks and secondaries. Since the OT 3 incident is only 75 million years old that makes it a lock on the chain or something. How can it be the end all/be all when it's nowhere near basic-basic?



You don't go Clear running locks so how can this eliminate one's case?

 

[guanoloco]

So what are you saying? I didn't really meet JFK, Judy Garland, and Jesus after they were reincarnated?

I met 5 Marilyn Monroes!

I think with this latest goofball we're up to 4 L Ron returns so far.

I met van Gogh, too, and Tesla and some others.

All of them batshit crazy as all hell.

 

[freethinker]

Try this thread and preferably read the underlying research. It's quite compelling.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/threads/life-between-lives-—-dr-michael-newton.11252/

Paul

how come when i go to certain pages on this board i am logged out and have to log in again. many times I don't as it says the page is not secure.

 

[Dulloldfart]

how come when i go to certain pages on this board i am logged out and have to log in again. many times I don't as it says the page is not secure.

"Not secure" mostly simply indicates "http://" and not "https://".

I don't know why that log-out thing happens, though.

This info page from Brave browser explains more, and the designations they show before a URL in the address bar:

https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/...-do-I-check-if-a-site-s-connection-is-secure-

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I confess I know very little about it. I do check that any online banking I do (not much at all) I do via https connections. I note that if I type "paulsrobot.com" into the address bar it comes out as "Not secure", but if I type "https://paulsrobot.com" it comes out as secure. I don't want to pay the extra to my hosting company for the SSL upgrade since users don't enter passwords or money on any of my sites and it seems to be not needed, although it would improve the optics.

Paul

 

[strativarius]

how come when i go to certain pages on this board i am logged out and have to log in again. many times I don't as it says the page is not secure.

If I'm using Chrome then the whole website is 'insecure'. If I'm using Firefox I don't see that it's any different except I'm not being TOLD it's insecure. I'm not bothered either way, I'm not about to post my bank account details or the password to my Amazon account here, so why the fuck should I be bothered?

I never get logged out on any pages though.

 

[Dulloldfart]

Stratty -- click on this link in Chrome:

https://forum.exscn.net/

Paul

 

[EZ Linus]

All I can say about most of the consensus here is that people are really scared to die.

But that's my opinion, and my basic "belief."