Peek Behind The Curtain

[Anonycat]

And thus Leon provides us with a live demonstration of the humanity of Hubbard and those who follow him too closely.

Leon will have a week off to think about things. He can use it either to steep himself in more Hubbardian crapola, or to find some kindness hidden somewhere deep in his soul. The choice is his. He has been politely warned about these types of comments before, but the soft touch apparently didn't work.

Please excuse this interruption and continue the discussion.

Personal attack! Banned! Jk ;-)

It's actually nice not to see every thread turned into Hubbard crap/Freakzone rallying, as a few members here are wont to do. If you can't body-route at an ex forum, where do you go?

 

[Glenda]

Personal attack! Banned! Jk ;-)

It's actually nice not to see every thread turned into Hubbard crap/Freakzone rallying, as a few members here are wont to do. If you can't body-route at an ex forum, where do you go?

Last sentence, my bolding.

I have quite a few ideas of "where to go", none of which I will share publicly.

Now let's get back to the thread topic out of respect for Jack...

Behind the curtain: after the love-bombing has stopped in the glitzy shop-front there begins a series of thought-stopping mind-altering processes which are sold as vital to everything. Everything? Yeah, that's a big concept but it is how the fear is entwined to hold people to scientology.

Scientology is full of fear tactics disguised in pretty packages and words like "freedom". I had a powerful dream about all this a few months ago. It started out as a nightmare but because I've got my head around how this stuff works now, I was able to turn it into a dream, then wake myself up, calm and peaceful.

The dream had all these people I knew in it. They were smiling at me. I could tell they were false smiles. They wanted my soul. They wanted my mind. I sensed this. It was terrifying. Then one of my weaknesses entered the scene. I needed something so I could get out of the house and away from these soul-destroying people. No one would help me. They told me I was doomed, for eternity, because I didn't believe in what they "knew" was the only true way/path. They glared at me as if I was the scum on the scum at the bottom of the pond. True-believers (fanatics) have a particularly steely devaluing glare. I know it well. I used to have it myself.

A man said he needed my blood to test it so they could fix me. I could see the huge needle in my dream. I dislike needles so that was a bit terrifying. I stayed internally strong, alert, but unable to find an escape route let him put the needle in my arm to take blood. I knew that nothing he did, nothing he said, would ever hurt me. They could never get close to what they wanted from me. My heart, my soul, are now very protected from "vampires". That was when the nightmare converted into a dream. I knew I could go through anything and be okay. Then I got even stronger and consciously woke myself up. I was smiling when I woke up. I got out of bed, made a cup of tea, and did some writing. Fearless.

And though tired the next day from broken sleep - and writing in the middle of the night - I had one of the best days imaginable.

Powerful message(s) in my dream. I felt so liberated. So alive. So if someone says I act like a victim, seek sympathy, etc., I just smile. Peacefully. People are free to say whatever they like. I know where I've been. I know what it took to get truly free of the stuff I was conditioned with. It has been a deep wild journey.

 

[ThetanExterior]

More on the subject of purging circa 1983. I have seen some of these people reappear on post afterwards so they must have done their A to E to get reinstated:

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/declared-SP-list.txt

Title: List of Declared SPs from SOED 2192 of Jan. 27, 1983
Author: Warrior
Date: 31 Aug 2000

On January 27, 1983, the "church" of Scientology published Sea Organization
Executive Directive [SOED] 2192. The SOED contains the names of over 600
individuals who were declared "suppressive persons" [SPs] during 1982 and
the first three weeks of 1983.

In this posting ("List of Declared SPs") I have listed all of the names
of those persons who were declared "SP" by the "church". Where a known
mis-spelling of an individual's name has occurred, I have indicated the
correct spelling in brackets following the original mis-spelling. Please
let me know of any omissions or incorrect information.

(See link for list)

This list was interesting to me because it contains two famous names from the UK - David Gaiman and his son, the writer Neil Gaiman.

 

[Udarnik]

Which is the best book for further reading on this time in the church?

As for the mechanics of the purge and the evolving mindset of Laffy as it began, I think Face's "Shooting Stars" thread gives a perspective I have not seen in any book. The sting of the failure of POS in the wog world was ameliorated by Laffy's realization that he could cut out the Mission Holders entirely by ordering $cions to buy POS like POS.

This led inevitably to the formation of the IAS, and Face's description of the process, is, as far as I have read, unique.

 

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

I cannot vouch for any of the content but this article is certainly a perspective to include regarding peeking behind the curtain

http://www.scientology-cult.com/secret-history-of-david-miscavige.html

 

[Uber]

Thanks for your thoughts!

I don't believe that I could ever say for SURE what I'd do in any situation without actually being INVOLVED...but my thoughts would be:

01. They would have to know about ILLEGAL things such as framing Paulette Cooper. They would have to know about the infiltration of the IRS and the Scientologists who were convicted and went to jail.

02. I'm assuming that these OSA agents would be familiar with the Xenu story. Would all these OSA agents be OT3 or above? Did they develop pneumonia or die because they learned of it prematurely?

The critics howl about Snow White but that sting made Hubbard a big time folk hero because it lead shortly after it was exposed and the trial completed to a an overhaul of the IRS and the hobbling of their jackbooted thugs. the people who infiltrated the IRS actually came up with some damning material on them. I heard about this years ago rfom unscientology hippies in the Haight.

 

[Udarnik]

The critics howl about Snow White but that sting made Hubbard a big time folk hero because it lead shortly after it was exposed and the trial completed to a an overhaul of the IRS and the hobbling of their jackbooted thugs. the people who infiltrated the IRS actually came up with some damning material on them. I heard about this years ago rfom unscientology hippies in the Haight.

What? No one outside of those of us nutty never-ins who find the Co$ a fascinating case study on multiple fronts even know about Snow White, and certainly at the time those kinds of people could be counted on ones fingers, possibly resorting to the toes, but definitely not needing to unzip one's fly.

Folk hero my arse.

 

[Uber]

What? No one outside of those of us nutty never-ins who find the Co$ a fascinating case study on multiple fronts even know about Snow White, and certainly at the time those kinds of people could be counted on ones fingers, possibly resorting to the toes, but definitely not needing to unzip one's fly.

Folk hero my arse.

I guess you don't know many hippies. They may be funny looking but some of them pay close attention.

Snow White forced major reforms on the IRS and the cognoscenti are very pleased that a bunch of Americans succeeded in infiltrating the US gummint.