Person Fatally Shot at COS Inglewood

[renegade]

yes and there is nothing ..no page likes and no sign of Scientology connected friends..

OSA would have been all over social media scrubbing any mention of Scientology's connection to him before the police arrived.

 

[Type4_PTS]

It's extremely risky to assume anything (in the early stages of reporting) about any alleged crime is factual.

It IS extremely risky to assume anything, except for this:

"...if the "witnesses" are Scientologists, the likelihood that the information is being threaded with misinformation, lies, acceptable truths, black pr and "dead agenting" (of the dead guy) instantly soars by a factor of 5.4X."

 

[Leland]

Police body cam footage?

Org security camera footage...inside and outside?

Other security camera footage from neighboring businesses?

These might show if the guy got out of his car with a sword or not...

 

[Teanntás]

I knew you'd notice, LOL.

From Tony's Underground Bunker just now:

UPDATE 1, 9:36 pm Eastern: A person we’ve been talking to who just recently left a position working at the Inglewood org points out to us that the room where people are regged (pressured to spend money) has a real sword hanging on the wall. This person says police should be asking if the assailant arrived with the sword or grabbed the one on the wall. Our source says that registrars were instructed to touch the sword “for good luck when calling the bank trying to get approved for loans and credit.”​

That just occurred to me before I read your post !

Daily Beast weighs in
https://www.thedailybeast.com/scientology-has-a-long-weird-history-with-sword-deaths?ref=scroll

 

[freethinker]

A bit on Inglewood.

 

[Shadyaf]

This whole story is under my skin beyond. So much research, i feel like i kind of know him. It all just feels so sketch.

 

[triumph]

Police body cam footage?

Org security camera footage...inside and outside?

Other security camera footage from neighboring businesses?

These might show if the guy got out of his car with a sword or not...

noticed a few of his siblings have started to post grieving messages on social media..which is understandable.

and funeral services and remembrances are here... not much here its a private service. no obituary
just brith date and date of his death.
https://www.lafuneral.com/obituary/Brian-Leslie-Statler-Jr./_/1841148..


a few small clues are on his you tube channel.. he was into martial arts..(Instagram as well)
and he was definitely a spiritual seeker...he was defiantly interested in a little bit of everything.
and there are some wealth building sites..

there isn't anything online that should be considered definitive on why things happened..
there were some thing on (google + and myspace) those are dead links.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC5PiuqCyAbgauQxnaarBpA/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC5PiuqCyAbgauQxnaarBpA/channels

the car he was reported to be driving Bentley didn't have plates....
the police will easily find out who the car belongs to..

this was posted on the Bunker.. but it was not something I could verify.

I could not find a Woodland hills connection.(court filings) or Beverly Hills.. for Brian jr...
(the arrest might have happened in Woodland hills or Beverly hills..)
or Woodland hills my have been the city this person lived in..

could not find a Woodland hills address for Brian jr.

and the home address is crossed out.

and the person who posted it didn't provide a link. which might be helpful.

Source may be where the Car came from? don't know.. Beverly Hills is where you'll find one

the name matches, (but not his full name Brian Leslie Jr) he would have been closer to /shy of 29 at this time....so the age is off.

for the arrest date. I could not find anything.. in my search.

its plausible the car didn't belong to him..the above pix doesn't quite mach up with anything I found.

the above arrest was also for a Warrant..which Brian jr had in Missouri at this time.
it was dropped later according to Tony O's updates.

 

[triumph]

these were the updates Tony posted

https://tonyortega.org/2019/04/01/s...ice-at-scientology-org-identified/#more-56547

the second update has the warrant info.. termination granted 22 days before his death



Assault in the 3rd degree.

A person is guilty of assault in the third degree if he: attempts to physically injure another person or recklessly causes physical injury to another. negligently causes bodily injury to another with a deadly weapon. ... knowingly engages in offensive or provocative contact with an incapacitated person.

 

[Teanntás]

Yea, a very light skinned black guy:

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Or a lightly colored white guy !

 

[Leland]

Teanntas, I don't mind you following me around on ESMB making comments on my comments regarding black americans....its OK.

This particular guy....was identified as a Black, by the police. So I just went with that description.

This thread is not about how black or white he is....(was)

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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WHAT INVESTIGATING COPS THINK HAPPENED:
A mentally ill guy (tormented by demon voices) went into an org and attacked Scientologists for unknown reasons.

WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS THINK HAPPENED:
A mentally ill guy (tormented by BT voices) went into an org and attacked Scientologists for unethical reasons.

WHAT EX-SCIENTOLOGISTS THINK HAPPENED:
A mentally ill guy (tormented by OT voices) went into an org and attacked Scientologists for karmic reasons.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

Surely there is LRH tech to handle a Type III SP who attacks Scientologists!

QUESTION: What should Ideal Scientologists in the Ideal Org ideally have done?

ANSWER: Use the tech. Give commands!

example #1: "BE 3 FEET BACK OF YOUR HEAD!!!" ​

Ron states that 50% of the world's population will respond to this "One Shot Clear" command by instantly going exterior and going Clear. So there is a really good chance the guy would have put down his sword, line charged, wrote a success story and paid for his Bridge.​

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TECHNICAL TIP: If the PC is still attacking you with a sword, you should not turn the folder in for a new C/S, but instead--immediately go the next process!​

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example #2: "COME TO PRESENT TIME!!!" This command always works if you deliver it tone 40. If it doesn't work and productive staff members are slain, you should handle the situation by drilling a bit more on TR-8 with ashtrays until your intention is better.​

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[ILove2Lurk]

ANSWER: Use the tech. Give commands!

example #3: "MOVE TO THE BEGINNING OF THE INCIDENT!!!" I remember this instruction for foiling an armed attack from an LRH tape. The basic theory is that the guy is stuck in an incident and dramatizing it -- a full revivication. Your task is to jar him on the time track a bit and move him through the incident until he stops his dramatization.

Hopefully.

 

[pineapple]

example #3: "MOVE TO THE BEGINNING OF THE INCIDENT!!!" I remember this instruction for foiling an armed attack from an LRH tape. The basic theory is that the guy is stuck in an incident and dramatizing it -- a full revivication. Your task is to jar him on the time track a bit and move him through the incident until he stops his dramatization.

Hopefully.

Bob Ross claimed he used it successfully, here:

"A young man came in one day with a loudly blaring portable radio. He wanted to have a demonstration, so I got him in session and as usual immediately asked him to return to conception. As he recounted the incident, he came to a point where he drew a good sized knife, stood up and began to walk toward me brandishing the knife. This alarmed me considerably but I managed not to panic, as I considered what to do."
-- "My Discovery of Dianetics" by Bob Ross

http://freezoneearth.org/ivy/35/ross1.html

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

example #3: "MOVE TO THE BEGINNING OF THE INCIDENT!!!" I remember this instruction for foiling an armed attack from an LRH tape. The basic theory is that the guy is stuck in an incident and dramatizing it -- a full revivication. Your task is to jar him on the time track a bit and move him through the incident until he stops his dramatization. Hopefully.

hahahahahahahahahaha.

I want to ask if that is parody.

I fear it is not. LOL

So, if that wasn't a joke, I have a serious question:

During an armed attack (and before giving the command) how would you be able to clear the words of the command ("Move to the beginning of the incident") and slow the attack down enough to get them on the meter to ensure that any MUs F/Ned?

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[HelluvaHoax!]

Bob Ross claimed he used it successfully, here:

"A young man came in one day with a loudly blaring portable radio. He wanted to have a demonstration, so I got him in session and as usual immediately asked him to return to conception.

Once an auditor asked me to "return to conception" and I did so. However, my auditor was quite shocked by the result. . .

Seconds after I returned to the moment Dr. Hubbard conceived Scientology, I cognited it was a hoax and blew.

 

[ILove2Lurk]

I fear it is not. LOL

Trust me, it is NOT.

Really heard this on one of his dianetics-type lectures.

I've never tried it myself. My preferred "behavior modification"
technique is CCW.



My best girlfriend back in the day had a man jump in her car when she was stopped
at a red light at night. Fortunately she had a gun stuffed between the seat cushions
of her car and pulled it on him. He screamed out and immediately slide back out of
the open door onto his butt in the snow covered street. She sped off fast and didn't
look back. Was right next to a fancy hotel but with a ghetto within blocks. You can
figure it out.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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[HelluvaHoax!]

Bob Ross claimed he used it successfully, here:

"A young man came in one day with a loudly blaring portable radio. He wanted to have a demonstration, so I got him in session and as usual immediately asked him to return to conception. As he recounted the incident, he came to a point where he drew a good sized knife, stood up and began to walk toward me brandishing the knife. This alarmed me considerably but I managed not to panic, as I considered what to do."
-- "My Discovery of Dianetics" by Bob Ross

http://freezoneearth.org/ivy/35/ross1.html

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF is that?!!!

I read it. . . (below) and thought it had to be a stupid spoof. LOL

A young man came in one day with a loudly blaring portable radio. He wanted to have a demonstration, so I got him in session and as usual immediately asked him to return to conception. As he recounted the incident, he came to a point where he drew a good sized knife, stood up and began to walk toward me brandishing the knife. This alarmed me considerably but I managed not to panic, as I considered what to do.​

I immediately came to the conclusion that he was dramatizing the incident he had been running. In fact he was running the incident from the viewpoint of one of the people in it, suggesting that his conception was the result of rape.​

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What to do? I kept my TR's in, (though they hadn't been invented/named yet). An answer came to me, I'll give God credit because I don't recall that Ron had mentioned anything quite like this in DMSMH. I simply said, quite calmly, "return to the beginning of the incident." He immediately put the knife away, sat down, and began to recount the incident from the start of the incident.​

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We went through this little scene, half a dozen times I think, before I felt able to end the session and send him on his way, with his radio blaring again. No doubt, I should have run out the incident completely, but I was satisfied at the time to have gotten through the experience with a whole skin.​

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I came to the conclusion that he had the loudly blaring radio to drown out his own thoughts, i.e. it helped him to stay in present time and not attack people!​

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The New York Dianetic Foundation, was a few blocks further down town also just off Fifth Avenue. I visited there one day and spoke to the Doctor in charge, who had been the resident physician at a mental hospital on Long Island. He told me how he had become convinced that dianetic procedures worked after running one of the patients on the incident he was dramatizing after which the patient promptly got better.​

LOL LOL LOL

Then a micro-second later I realized that it is supposed to be a factual event.

That is so indescribably stupid.

I closed the link. But 15 seconds later, i again concluded it must be a spoof by some funky made-up personna like Billy Blowdown. So I looked up who "Bob Ross" was.

And then--

WTF, again! Here's another OT win by Bob Ross (from THIS LINK).

Ron's Physical Appearance
I have seen Ron many times. Once I was standing in front of 1810 19th St., N.W. when he came barrelling(sic) up the steps of 1812 past a group of students about 15 feet away from me. He seemed shorter than most of them, about 5'6" or 7". I saw him very clearly another time toward the end of an after Congress party, about 1960. I went up to him to say "Good Night," and noticed that he was so tall (about 7' or 2.13 Meters) that my outstretched hand would barely have reached the top o his head. I took his hand, to shake hands and noticed that his hand was extremely large and that I could see the pores of his skin as though under a magnifying glass.​

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At Saint Hill I saw him often on the grounds, where he talked occasionally with students. I met and spoke to him once as he was being picked up by his chauffeur at the East Grinstead Public Library. He seemed to me to be having some trouble physically getting into the car. I went over to him to say "Hello." I had just come back after taking a week's unauthorized leave to go to Paris. He said to me, "I told them you would be back." I saw him again at a performance of a Gilbert and Sullivan Operetta starring Jenny Edmunds, course supervisor and Reg Sharpe's girl friend. Ron was standing surrounded by many students and was a full head taller than most of them.​

Anybody else having huge wins on these OT SUCCESS STORIES, like I had? I was blowing so much charge and line charging so hard, I lost my MEST balance and went "barrelling" down a flight of MEST stairs, on this planet. I don't mean to be critical of Bob Ross' lack of OT spelling skills, because he's an old timer in Scientology, which is back in the days before Ron invented dictionaries.

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[Type4_PTS]

Surely there is LRH tech to handle a Type III SP who attacks Scientologists!

QUESTION: What should Ideal Scientologists in the Ideal Org ideally have done?

ANSWER: Use the tech. Give commands!

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According to the promotional flyers sent out dozens of times while I was on staff all that was needed was for a Pro TR's completion to get into communication with the guy with a sword and handle the situation with communication.

If that didn't work I'd suggest to fly his ruds. Clearly he had an ARC Break!

If the tech doesn't go in on him due to out-ethics, then assign him the proper Ethics Condition and help him up through the lower conditions. Evidently he's in Treason or below on his 3'rd and/or 4th dynamic.

A woman I worked with at Boston Org actually claimed that she successfully did conditions on a man who attempted to rob her at gunpoint. Too bad she wasn't there during the Inglewood incident.