He-man
Hero extraordinary
He's logged-in right now so perhaps we'll be hearing from him when he's ready.
Can we do the whole karma friendly thingy where everyone sits in a circle holding hands going - "Weelcome back Mrqazwaz.
He's logged-in right now so perhaps we'll be hearing from him when he's ready.
Only if I can hold your hand duckie!Can we do the whole karma friendly thingy where everyone sits in a circle holding hands going - "Weelcome back Mrqazwaz.
Can we do the whole karma friendly thingy where everyone sits in a circle holding hands going - "Weelcome back Mrqazwaz.
Has Mrqazwaz left the building?
PLEASE HELP I WANT TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW.
Here is some data about my situation:
I am 19 years old and is staff in a european Org. I have been on staff for about 1 and a half year now. I have signed the Sea Org contract. But I have not arrived in the Sea Org, and I DO NOT plan on going to.
I made earlier today the decision to leave. I have been thinking about it ever since i made it. I can not fall asleep. I am sure that leaving is the right decision. But how do I do it!?!?
I have done the purification rundown, staff status one and two. I am working an executive post in the Org. I got many personal wins from using Dianetics, and the people (especially the other staff members there) are very nice.
The reason of my decision to leave is that the church has started to try an control every personal aspect of my live. Its like they do not want me to think for myself. I can not take it anymore.
I have been trained in how to scare and really intimidate people who are against Scientology. Black PR, Dead Agent, Filming people, Yelling at people etc. And i have done things I wish I hadn't.
I want out!
I have been very lucky to have some of the best friends I could wish for outside Scientology. They still stand by me. I have not had to disconnect anyone. And my whole family supports me.
I feel like i am being used to do degrading work for NO PAY at all. And even though I work every single day without any pay they still demand that I donate to IAS etc.
Also I found out that some of the tech is simply is not working. I get sick and have to get a useless PTS handling.
I can not take that we are treating LRH like a god. Celebrating him all the time. Clapping at him after everything we do.
I want to go back to school and get myself an education and live my life.
Can you please help me??? I want to get out. And I want to get out NOW.
Is there any way to get out nicely? Without upsetting people? How?
Please help.
AnonMary,
You might be right, I was under impression this person was a female.
After I quickly scanned the replies, I've read tom_booth replying & using ''she''
I may have been mistaken Mary (but that's not the heart of the problem, though)
But still
what he\she said is
''I want to go back to school and get myself an education and live my life.
Can you please help me??? I want to get out. And I want to get out NOW.''
I didn't see him\her asking to get some scientology out of the COS.
I stick to the fact it is not a question of opinions, some people (rarely) come here and ask for such connections, or independant processing, which is their choice, or their path. No problemo with me as they are adults and choose so!
When they don't ask for freezone services, but for help to leave such $cientology cult , clearly, they shall not be be offer another mindfuck, especially when they might be vulnerable and trying to get out.
With all respect due to you
It's beyond my understanding that people suffering about their involvement with $cientology, demanding help to leave, will be offered more $cientology..here, in a community they land, for finding support in doing so!
I don't interpret such a comment
''I have been trained in how to scare and really intimidate people who are against Scientology. Black PR, Dead Agent, Filming people, Yelling at people etc. And I have done things I wish I hadn't.
I want out!
-snip-
Also I found out that some of the tech is simply is not working. I get sick and have to get a useless PTS handling.''
as a reach for more $cientology
Can't be more clear to me - not reaching at all for more $cientology
unless I am blind and don't see it!
This is an irreconciable issue that some people may take as a general cruisade issue
instead of keeping in focus this particular person's needs, wishes, and demands.
I often stated I dislike rhetoric debates
and in this particular situation it's clear to me that this person want to go back to anormal life without the LRH mindfuck and sociopathy driving her\his life.
:wink2:
To mrqazwaz :
Keep on your goals, you did very good and you are on the path of enjoying your life.
Don't let anyone to entrap you in another Aliens version of the same $cientology cult. (unless you want to discover the chanelling, the galactic patrol, the Xenu stuff, the entities exorcising....)
Your doing good without LRH to regulate your thoughts and life!
Enjoy your family and friends + school!
Listen, take a break, enjoy your new freedom, get some space on the whole thing and then revisit the issue. I guarantee you that you will have a different perspective. And you will be better prepared to figure out your fellow org member relationships and what degree of obligation you have individually with each person there. Don't let the sense of abandoning them hinder you. How you approach your life now, how you come to terms with things for yourself and your well being as you move on may well be the impetus that encourages others there. You need the evolution of your self determinism and integrity to get to a comfort zone where you are ready to tackle such issues. Consider yourself on a vacation. Out of sight, out of mind...
PS: On your leaving:
Mary McConnell
I have done the purification rundown, staff status one and two. I am working an executive post in the Org. I got many personal wins from using Dianetics, and the people (especially the other staff members there) are very nice.
Thanks for clearing it up 0n the gender question.
Previously I responded separately to the OP wanting to get out. I have never encouraged the person to not move ahead. Here is my first post:
In response to the rest of your comment.. Keep in mind that I posted this later on after seeing all the posts by others attacking the the ideas of liking scientology and dianetics as subjects, liking scientologists and the possibility of going to the Freezone as many others have after leaving because Terril let it be known it was an alternative because he/she stated:
My last comment was addressed to the members here, who have been posting in that thread and in general. I am not advocating the FZ. I am stating a reality that it exists and is an alternative for people, especially for those who, upon leaving WANT or feel they NEED their bridge but are afraid to leave because they don't know there are alternatives. Freedom of choice...that's all.
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
Can you explain to me how you know what those trapped scientologists feel? I can understand that they deserve to have all the knowledge out there available, but how can you say how anyone feels besides yourself?
How many OSA are in the FZ?
Hey.
I want to say that I am doing fine at the moment. I am still in a foreign country. And nobody has tried to contact anyone I know in my own country. I have not been contacted my self either. I also got a new phone number.
PLEASE HELP I WANT TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW.
Here is some data about my situation:
I am 19 years old and is staff in a european Org. I have been on staff for about 1 and a half year now. I have signed the Sea Org contract. But I have not arrived in the Sea Org, and I DO NOT plan on going to.
I made earlier today the decision to leave. I have been thinking about it ever since i made it. I can not fall asleep. I am sure that leaving is the right decision. But how do I do it!?!?
I have done the purification rundown, staff status one and two. I am working an executive post in the Org. I got many personal wins from using Dianetics, and the people (especially the other staff members there) are very nice.
The reason of my decision to leave is that the church has started to try an control every personal aspect of my live. Its like they do not want me to think for myself. I can not take it anymore.
I have been trained in how to scare and really intimidate people who are against Scientology. Black PR, Dead Agent, Filming people, Yelling at people etc. And i have done things I wish I hadn't.
I want out!
I have been very lucky to have some of the best friends I could wish for outside Scientology. They still stand by me. I have not had to disconnect anyone. And my whole family supports me.
I feel like i am being used to do degrading work for NO PAY at all. And even though I work every single day without any pay they still demand that I donate to IAS etc.
Also I found out that some of the tech is simply is not working. I get sick and have to get a useless PTS handling.
I can not take that we are treating LRH like a god. Celebrating him all the time. Clapping at him after everything we do.
I want to go back to school and get myself an education and live my life.
Can you please help me??? I want to get out. And I want to get out NOW.
Is there any way to get out nicely? Without upsetting people? How?
Please help.