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PLEASE BE TRUTHFUL !!!!

Bill

Gold Meritorious Patron
no bill, in that post i was only saying that it can be easily observed an incapacity for duplication is epidemic in many posters on this board

as you yourself clearly demonstrate with this post
LOL! Yeah, right, that's what it demonstrated...

Or, maybe you could be clear about what you are talking about rather than post seemingly disconnected snippits with no clear connection to the discussion... You may have noticed that no one else understood what you were talking about.

Oh, no! You're a Scientologist, a "master of communication"! It must be someone else, anyone else, to blame for any miscommunication.

Yeah, that's it. :duh:
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
John, What type of device are you using to read and reply to this forum? A cell phone? A computer? A tablet? What is it that you are using that does ZERO formatting? We can't hardly read your posts and see where your replies start after you number a question you are trying to answer so I am thinking may e you can't read us very well either? And is English your second language? I'm just having a really hard time understanding you and what you are trying to accomplish here.
Hi Gloria, Are you fishing? How come are you interested in my posting? I notice that you answer only when I post some true data that damage the Church. Like NOTs completions problems. It is a very sad situation. But you cannot judge it after 36 years that you are in the SO I would bet 100K that you are not above Clear. Wake up Sir!!!!!
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
How true, One of them can write in coherent sentences, and the other one can't spell.
Please accept my sincerest apologies. I do not have much time to post. Gloria and her husband are investigating who is John or mybe a..... "Axiom 27. An actuality can exist for one individually, but when it is agreed with by others it can then be said to be a reality."
 

Veda

Sponsor
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I am saying that Church's NOTs (Indie included) does not work. Why? Google it and you will find the answer. There are quite a lot people in that sit. I had that sit. The diference between us is that I was looking to resolve the sit. You don't, in other words you stop looking ."

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So you became a Ron's Orger but are too embarrassed to say so?

What Ron's Orgs calls the 'Excalibur' level was initially called "Super NOTs."

Here's the description of it from Ron's Orgs, and a link to their Grade Chart:

" 'Excalibur' - handle the most secret and ancient barriers to OT, an organized attempt on the 7th dynamic to force one to conform to a lower state of awareness." http://www.freezone.org/e_bridge.htm



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LOL! Yeah, right, that's what it demonstrated...

Or, maybe you could be clear about what you are talking about rather than post seemingly disconnected snippits with no clear connection to the discussion... You may have noticed that no one else understood what you were talking about.

Oh, no! You're a Scientologist, a "master of communication"! It must be someone else, anyone else, to blame for any miscommunication.

Yeah, that's it. :duh:

i walked away from CoS forty years ago bill...
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
Ah, yes. "Duplication"!! We love Scientology's wonderful concept of "duplication" which means, in real life, refusing to notice there are no "Releases", refusing to notice there are no "Clears", refusing to notice there are no "OTs", refusing to answer all those difficult questions, and blindly repeating the Scientology mantra "I am superior, they are SPs, I am superior, they are Enemies, I am superior because I are a Scientologist." Yeah, "duplication" of L. Ron Hubbard (which means unquestioning belief) and absolute refusal to see the truth that is right there, staring you in the face. Yeah, that "duplication". :duh: How unobservant and dull do you have to make yourself to master that kind of "duplication"?
You are right !!! We at this forum know this. No one disagre. But you are talking about Scientology after 1980 to now. Axiom 27. An actuality can exist for one individually, but when it is agreed with by others it can then be said to be a reality. Axiom 32. Anything which is not directly observed tends to persist. Axiom 33. Any As-is-ness which is altered by Not-is-ness (by force) tends to persist. Axiom 34. Any Is-ness, when altered by force, tends to persist.
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
So you became a Ron's Orger but are too embarrassed to say so? What Ron's Orgs calls the 'Excalibur' level was initially called "Super NOTs." Here's the description of it from Ron's Orgs, and a link to their Grade Chart: " 'Excalibur' - handle the most secret and ancient barriers to OT, an organized attempt on the 7th dynamic to force one to conform to a lower state of awareness." http://www.freezone.org/e_bridge.htm
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How!!!! I am done now!!! To tell the true I contacted Marianne Hagen but she never answered. Not by phone not by e-mail. I read something about it but I cannot say if it is good or not. I need to do it first. Do you know Marianne Hagen?
 

Bill

Gold Meritorious Patron
You are right !!! We at this forum know this. No one disagre. But you are talking about Scientology after 1980 to now. Axiom 27. An actuality can exist for one individually, but when it is agreed with by others it can then be said to be a reality. Axiom 32. Anything which is not directly observed tends to persist. Axiom 33. Any As-is-ness which is altered by Not-is-ness (by force) tends to persist. Axiom 34. Any Is-ness, when altered by force, tends to persist.
You can't prove anything by quoting Hubbard. Hubbard proves Hubbard but has nothing to do with the real world. The Axioms are not truth, they are Hubbard. Try to say things without using Hubbard quotes to see if it makes real sense.
 

Veda

Sponsor
How!!!! I am done now!!! To tell the true I contacted Marianne Hagen but she never answered. Not by phone not by e-mail. I read something about it but I cannot say if it is good or not. I need to do it first. Do you know Marianne Hagen?

So you just read their stuff on line, but have been unable to contact them? That's where you're getting these ideas?

"Did you know that the Church of Scientology was taken over around 1980 by U.S. government forces together with another organization... of a higher technical level." http://www.freezone-latam.org.mx/sc2.htm

If this is important to you, why don't you try contacting anyone at Ron's Orgs and, then, see if they can help you contact Marianne Hagen?

Now that you mention it, I did know Marianne Hagen a long time ago, and she last spoke with me soon after she had completed the 'Super Nots' Supervisor course under Bill Robertson.
 

MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hi Gloria, Are you fishing? How come are you interested in my posting? I notice that you answer only when I post some true data that damage the Church. Like NOTs completions problems. It is a very sad situation. But you cannot judge it after 36 years that you are in the SO I would bet 100K that you are not above Clear. Wake up Sir!!!!!
Who is Gloria??? :confused2:
If I was in the SO for 36yrs then I would have joined the SO when I was 3.. That's even young for the Cult hahahaha!

And I notice you didn't answer my questions! What the hell are you here for? What is your goal? What are you trying to achieve? And what kind of device are you using to post in this forum?
 

OTBT

Patron Meritorious
I have spent, as many of you, I do believe, the majority of this life time in Scientology. I wanted to believe that I would became a better and able being if I had followed Scientology teaching . I really wanted to became a better being. Now after 20/30 years I am asking to myself do I achieved this? If I said no I am lying. If I said yes I am lying also. Why? Because the true of the matter is without studying Scientology and applying it to my life I would not be aware that I have lived before and more specifically that I create my future and is not luck. Without it I would have been as my brother. Going to the bone-yard with any Valley girl as the only purpose in life. I realized that was up to me to apply it. It was up to me studying and applying it,and getting the benefit out of it. Because DM and all those Int and Ex Int staff fucked it up and continue to fuck it up ( ex-int also) doesn't mean that Scientology technology doesn't work. DM and ex-Int teaching do not work. Please be truthful about Scientology not for yourself but for those not so able to evaluate data. Scientology is 50% of application!!! If it does not work are you doing your part? the 50% ? Scientology is not a magic word. Abracadabra and voila!!!! Sorry, have have to do the 50% of the work. I know this is very cruel especially for those believing in fairytale. Scientology word doesn't do the trick so it doesn't work. What exactly did it or didn't it work? That is the question. For those who want chaos (OSA) don't bother. For those who gave up do not spread about things that yourselves cannot apply it. For those who are not sure find a piece of tech that you can apply and works and carry on from there. have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!


1) Paragraphs work, and are not taught in Study Tech.

2) Elron was a compulsive liar, but very damn good at it.

3) < this one is a biggie > Body Thetans don't exist, unless you mock them up. Once you mock up Body Thetans, you bank account is pretty much fucked.

4) A beer in the morning is worth 2 tequilas in the afternoon.

Want to know more more about useless trolling?

I'm bored. What do you want to bitch and moan about?
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
Hi Gloria, Are you fishing? How come are you interested in my posting? I notice that you answer only when I post some true data that damage the Church. Like NOTs completions problems. It is a very sad situation. But you cannot judge it after 36 years that you are in the SO I would bet 100K that you are not above Clear. Wake up Sir!!!!!

So, John- are you actually in CofS? Or are you a Non CofS Scientologist? If it's the former, I'm afraid you won't find a very warm reception here. Many people here have suffered greatly at the hands of CofS staff and have a lot of experience there.

And I think you're reading MissWog incorrectly. Don't be so paranoid!
 

Claire Swazey

Spokeshole, fence sitter
When have we ever disagreed Claire!? I must have been drunk posting because I can't remember any time we were. :blush:

I do like your posts and have always enjoyed talking to you. Not much more to say. Just got up and have not had my coffee yet.

Also, after that comment John R made to MissWog, I'm starting to lose patience with him. There are times when the underdog deserves to be the underdog.

Good morning, everyone!
 

MissWog

Silver Meritorious Patron
I do like your posts and have always enjoyed talking to you. Not much more to say. Just got up and have not had my coffee yet.

Also, after that comment John R made to MissWog, I'm starting to lose patience with him. There are times when the underdog deserves to be the underdog.

Good morning, everyone!
No it's okay, he nailed me.. My name is Gloria and I'm an OSA spy.. Haven't I done a great job keeping y'all fooled.

I don't know why I'm so curious what this guy is up too!! I have a hard time thinking he is just certifiable..but maybe that's bc I don't run into many crazies with Internet access..they are usually talking to themselves on the corner when I'm at a stop light. :confused2:
 

john reguerra

Patron with Honors
So, John- are you actually in CofS? Or are you a Non CofS Scientologist? If it's the former, I'm afraid you won't find a very warm reception here. Many people here have suffered greatly at the hands of CofS staff and have a lot of experience there. And I think you're reading MissWog incorrectly. Don't be so paranoid!
Hi Clare! If you read my posts, you may realize that I strongly reject their Technology after the take over. I noticed that in this forum there are quite a few rejecting the whole Scientology, LRH, DM and the lot. If you knew my story you will be surprised to know that I am not seeking avenge. But because I have been abused for 30 years does not means that I quit the Technology that for me works. To make sure I communicate my thought correctly I have not faith about it I do not care less about faith. I am applying the Tech I know in my life and it works. About MissWog sorry to say but she is applying in full the 3 party gossip Tech and The Art of War. Look her posting about me she came on the line to protect?
 

phenomanon

Canyon
So you just read their stuff on line, but have been unable to contact them? That's where you're getting these ideas?

"Did you know that the Church of Scientology was taken over around 1980 by U.S. government forces together with another organization... of a higher technical level." http://www.freezone-latam.org.mx/sc2.htm

If this is important to you, why don't you try contacting anyone at Ron's Orgs and, then, see if they can help you contact Marianne Hagen?

Now that you mention it, I did know Marianne Hagen a long time ago, and she last spoke with me soon after she had completed the 'Super Nots' Supervisor course under Bill Robertson.

She posts as "Vast".
 
So you just read their stuff on line, but have been unable to contact them? That's where you're getting these ideas?

"Did you know that the Church of Scientology was taken over around 1980 by U.S. government forces together with another organization... of a higher technical level." http://www.freezone-latam.org.mx/sc2.htm

If this is important to you, why don't you try contacting anyone at Ron's Orgs and, then, see if they can help you contact Marianne Hagen?

Now that you mention it, I did know Marianne Hagen a long time ago, and she last spoke with me soon after she had completed the 'Super Nots' Supervisor course under Bill Robertson.

GREAT LINK!!!
 
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