Admin Emeritus (retired)
My two cents.
Give it time.
Give him time.
How many of us are in the same place we were when we first got out?
We needed time and space and other outside of Scientology experiences to process what we had gone through, what we were going through and where we were going.
I really wish people would stop jumping over the asses of Rathburn and Rinder and being the judge and jury. You don't really know what they are dealing with: physically, mentally and emotionally.
They have their own private hells to deal with. Let them deal with them as they see fit.
If you ever want them to be receptive to what you have to say to them, wait until they are ready and willing to hear it.
I have no doubt, personally, that they will come around.
When it happens for them.
Meanwhile, please leave them the fuck alone.
Judging them and antagonizing them and acting like general assholes to them will just make them hostile and defensive.
Put yourself in their position.
Would you personally be receptive to the shit that is being thrown at them?
Or would you say: "Fuck off and die. You weren't there. You don't know what it was like and what I am actually going through."
No problem leaving Rinder alone. Lotsa problems leaving Rathbun alone.
Marty is the one putting himself out there - if you do that then be prepared to be debated.
Rathbun and Rinder were the ones running the harassment of exes Lulu - when they attacked me and my friends then they picked their sides. If they wish to now change sides there had better be a bit more than "oh whoops sorry".
Sorry Lulu - they have a lot to answer for and I dont care how bad or uncomfortable that may make them feel.