Rathbun's views on the Debbie Cook trial.

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Battle of San Antonio: A Review
On day one of Scientology Inc v Debbie Cook, after witnessing the opening statements of Ray Jeffrey and George Spencer, after Debbie Cook was called as first witness of the plaintiff, and after being dismissed from the courtroom as announced witnesses, Mike Rinder and I took a leisurely stroll at the Riverwalk in downtown San Antonio. We could relax for a moment since by then we were assured that we owned David Miscavige.

We talked about the state of David Miscavige’s mind as reflected in his handling of the Battle of San Antonio. Our walk was relaxed because we knew that Miscavige’s arrogant, ill-advised first move would be his last – calling Debbie Cook to the stand. I said to Mike, “these days, watching Scientology Inc Legal is like watching a Tommy Davis PR performance.” Mike mused about how predictable it was that Miscavige would react as we figured he would to our message from the Alamo.

We reflected on how after our announcing to the world that Miscavige was following right in the footsteps of infamous general and despot Santa Anna, he had ignored the well-known aphorism of philosopher George Santayana:

“Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

That is not say that all was sea shells and balloons on the front lines – but we knew at that point there was no reversing the fact that the Scientology Inc locomotive was headed straight into the train wreck of the century.

Even then though, we did not suspect that within 24 hours Miscavige would channel Santa Anna right on down to waving the white flag, and fleeing across the Texas plains in his underwear.

A Scientology Inc outright surrender is unprecedented in circumstances such as these.

Yes, Scientology Inc has paid huge sums of money at the courthouse steps in exchange for silencing Public Relations and Legal nightmares.

But, never has Scientology Inc surrendered after the damage was already done, and never in such a pathetic, thoroughly embarrassing fashion.

On my way out of San Antonio, I had a visit with Village Voice Editor In Chief Tony Ortega. Tony asked me why the Surrender at San Antonio was so epic.

I told Tony that in order to fully appreciate the answer he needed a little history lesson, as follows.

The Temporary Restraining Order(TRO)/Preliminary Injunction (PI) procedure is relatively standard in most states in America. Since 1981 Mike and I had helped Scientology Inc capitalize on it to crush, punish and silence many people. Generally, one can get the TRO with no notice to the defendant, and then the defendant has but ten days to put together a complete defense in a hearing for a PI. That means scrambling together for bread and trying to hire someone competent to enter a thoroughly unremunerative and unrewarding battle field and get him prepared for the unpreparable. Very few that Mike and I could recall had ever been able to get it together in that time frame. So, dozens of times we had used the weapon successfully to muzzle a defendant from the outset and for the remaining two to five year period the case would take to get to ultimate trial. It was like shackling the defendant to the whipping post, then using the two to five years of litigation process to bury, punish, and bankrupt him or her with harassing discovery and motion work. And while ultimately the defendant might prevail at trial (e.g. Gerry Armstrong, Joe Yanny), in many ways the person was ruined and enervated by that time.


Mike and I knew that it was no coincidence that from January 1, 2012 to this day Office of Special Affairs (OSA, dirty tricks and propaganda arm of Scientology Inc) had every available operative in the field pushing one message and one message alone toward Debbie Cook and Wayne Baumgarten: whatever you do, stay away from Marty. We read that like a telegram authored by Miscavige: we’re isolating Debbie for the whipping post treatment.

As one can read at exhibit B to Defendants’ Original Answer filed in the Bexar county courthouse, as late as January 15 (12 days prior to the Temporary Restraining Order), the OSA line had some effect. Debbie pled with OSA to leave her alone with this distancing claim: “I am also certain at this point that it was Marty and the Independents that worked so hard to get that comm into the press.” That was claimed despite the fact the “press” had her email before I even did, and I’ve never worked, let alone “worked so hard”, to get anything into the press, and notwithstanding the fact I had already informed Debbie through a mutual friend of the identities of two confirmed OSA agents whom she and Wayne had already befriended and trusted since 1 January. Regardless of Debbie’s mistrust, Mike and I still noted in my blog that it would not take long for Miscavige to force Debbie toward her only hope of a decent defense. And so we proceeded to raise funds for that purpose.

It was not until Debbie and Wayne were served with a Temporary Restraining Order that I received a call that she wanted help.

Here is where the formidable Independent network really came into play. First, mutual friends Yvonne and Ken Schick arranged a meeting at a secluded several acre residence where no OSA interference was possible. Another Independent paid the airfare to get Mike Rinder out to Texas immediately. Another Independent (Action Jackson Morehead) stood in for Mike in Florida to complete the move that he and Christie were in the middle of when the call for help arose. Probably the most crucial clutch play of the game also came from a Texas Independent. His many years of ethical business practice and consequent connections lead us to the biggest star of the entire battle, Sugar Ray Jeffrey.

Mike and I have worked with some of the most expensive and accomplished lawyers in countries across the world for several decades; and both of us recognized the day we met him that Ray was the only horse that could run the course before us in the time allotted to prepare. Normally, an attorney of his capability (with the level of competence and dedication of his partner and associate) would cost far more than we could afford. But, because Ray and his team were quick to understand the facts, and were moved by the principles and equities involved, we were able to retain him through the hearing of this week for just about the amount of money that Independents (for the most part) contributed – almost to the penny.

With precious little time to work, it seemed that every resource we needed at every step of the way magically appeared compliments of one Independent or another.

I told Tony that had it not been for a lot of good folks living right and supporting one another and being there for one another and ready to drop everything to answer when the call came, Debbie Cook and Wayne Baumgarten would have been Texas road kill by now.

Had it not been for David Miscavige’s insane paranoia – which was as predictable as the morning sunrise – Debbie Cook’s testimony as to Miscavige’s crimes would never have seen the light of day.

Until David Miscavige sued Debbie Cook she made her intentions to him clear in writing as follows:

a) She did not intend to disclose publicly the crimes of David Miscavige and Scientology Inc.

b) She considered the intentions and interests of “Marty and the Independents” something not necessarily parallel to her own.

However, the very crimes Miscavige was trying to cover up with the Temporary Restraining order, and keep covered up with the sought for Preliminary Injunction, were the very crimes that invalidated the “agreement” that he wanted enforced. It didn’t take a legal genius to understand that; Mike and I saw it before we even saw Miscavige’s stupid lawsuit and secretly obtained Temporary Restraining Order.

David Miscavige literally forced Debbie Cook to disclose his crimes in the only forum, under his own interpretation of the law, she could possibly do so without legal repercussions to herself. To wit, in the witness box in defense of an application for a Preliminary Injunction worded in the fashion Miscavige worded his would-be one against Debbie.

Miscavige got what he postulated; and he paid dearly with Scientology parishioner donation war chest funds to make his postulate stick.

Some have wondered about the merits of Miscavige’s claim that he has now attained the goods to win the case on Summary Judgment. There are no merits to it. It is simply a typical Miscavige “PR” maneuver – the bully getting the tar whipped out of him, and claiming as he retreats “I am gonna kick your ass later.”

And as is typical of Miscavige, the rest of his statement was bogus too. He didn’t surrender because Debbie was going to continue to use the witness stand to trumpet his crimes. She was done with that phase of her testimony – the rest of it was rather mundane by comparison. What he was hoping to avoid was the rest of the defense case (Mike and I establishing that the precise duress Debbie described being applied to force her to sign the “agreement” was standard operating procedure designed and engineered by Miscavige) and the inevitable court ruling that Scientology Inc gag orders are unenforceable, whether backed by fifty grand in “consideration” or not.

You see, Debbie is just the tip of the iceberg. And Miscavige is acutely aware of that. Others have left the Int Base torture chamber called “The Hole” since Debbie departed in 2007. Among them are former WDC member Greg Hughes, former Int Management Exec Committee member Debbie Hughes, and former COB Project Ops (and Hole Torture In Charge) Angie Blankenship. They too were bought off and signed agreements identical to Debbie’s. The facts they can testify to about the conduct of David Miscavige are still within the criminal statute of limitations for aggravated assault and battery, false imprisonment, and human trafficking.

While Miscavige’s unprecedented surrender is indicative of a meltdown of magnitude, there is still a method behind the tyrant’s madness.

But, Greg Hughes, Debbie Hughes, Angie Blankenship, and others similarly situated cannot take solace in the lack of official precedent invalidating their agreements. I know they would love to do so as some kind of synthetic balm for their aching consciences. Fact of the matter is, despite the lack of written judicial decision, the precedent has been set and it is clear as a bell to any literate individual aware of the Battle of San Antonio. David Miscavige has not nor can he use the courts to enforce his unlawful, unconscionable cover-up contracts. We have proven that when push comes to shove those “agreements” are as worthless as the paper they were written on. Further, we have established that when Miscavige attempts to isolate and tie anyone to the whipping post, there is a formidable movement out here that will protect them and lead them safely to the promised land; whether they agree with and support our aims or not.

All who contributed please take a huge win. You got us to exactly where I predicted you could take us with your contributions. The product was better than any of us could have expected. Some of the lessons I take with me:

Don’t mess with Texas.

Don’t mess with Independents.

Don’t mess with the Truth.

http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
 

Free to shine

Shiny & Free
:spitcoffee: I actually raved a bit but deleted it, it was along the lines of Ratty crowing....
I am just too polite.

I think it's disgusting how he talks of what he did without the faintest sign of remorse! Disgusting.
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Whether I want to or not I do admire M and M's courage, and of course Debbie's (and her Husbands) and all that went before them ... many of whom are members of ESMB.

I don't have to agree with them about hubbard.

I do admire them (at this moment).

:yes:
 

Sindy

Crusader
:spitcoffee: I actually raved a bit but deleted it, it was along the lines of Ratty crowing....
I am just too polite.

I think it's disgusting how he talks of what he did without the faintest sign of remorse! Disgusting.

Yes, I thought this same thing. No one really actually knows how much remorse he feels though. It's just so bizarre. One gets the feeling that one is listening to a former mafia don now turned state's evidence. The don, not being fully removed from his former persona, still seems a bit thrilled with the crimes of yesteryear while knowing that they're not quite right.

I get the idea (and I know people may feel like jumping all over me for this) that Marty is a troubled, soft-hearted ruffian who has a temper and who alternates between teddy bear and thug, spinning around not knowing what to do while he decompresses out in the public arena. It can't be easy.

Right now, I think he is doing a good job. As he goes through all of this and continues to keep his head and heart in fighting the beast, he can't help but have all the experiences necessary to start realizing what others must have gone through and how he was a part of it.

I still say, give him time.
 
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This much I believe ....

... Since 1981 Mike and I had helped Scientology Inc capitalize on it to crush, punish and silence many people. Generally, one can get the TRO with no notice to the defendant, and then the defendant has but ten days to put together a complete defense in a hearing for a PI. That means scrambling together for bread and trying to hire someone competent to enter a thoroughly unremunerative and unrewarding battle field and get him prepared for the unpreparable. Very few that Mike and I could recall had ever been able to get it together in that time frame. So, dozens of times we had used the weapon successfully to muzzle a defendant from the outset and for the remaining two to five year period the case would take to get to ultimate trial. It was like shackling the defendant to the whipping post, then using the two to five years of litigation process to bury, punish, and bankrupt him or her with harassing discovery and motion work. And while ultimately the defendant might prevail at trial (e.g. Gerry Armstrong, Joe Yanny), in many ways the person was ruined and enervated by that time. ...


http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/



Reminds me of a favorite line from Shakespeare.

O wonderful, when devils tell the truth! - Richard III, I. ii.
W.Shakespeare


Mark A. Baker
 

Infinite

Troublesome Internet Fringe Dweller
Yes, I thought this same thing. No one really actually knows how much remorse he feels though. It's just so bizarre. One gets the feeling that one is listening to a former mafia don now turned state's evidence. The don not being fully removed from his former persona still seems a bit thrilled with the crimes of yesteryear while knowing that they're not quite right.

I get the idea (and I know people may feel like jumping all over me for this) that Marty is a troubled, soft-hearted ruffian who has a temper and who alternates between teddy bear and thug, spinning around not knowing what to do while he decompresses out in the public arena. It can't be easy.

Right now, I think he is doing a good job. As he goes through all of this and continues to keep his head and heart in fighting the beast, he can't help but have all the experiences necessary to start realizing what others must have gone through and how he was a part of it.

I still say, give him time.

Sure - 20 years to Life should do it.
 

Div6

Crusader
Angie Blankenship?

From http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/inner-core-meltdown-in-miscaviges-bunker/

For the past several years new buildings have been 90% of Miscavige’s and Int base’s focus. That is why Blankenship, Wright and Barram were so cherished by Miscavige.

..............

So trusted was this handful of people that when John Brousseau escaped the Int base to my home in Texas in April 2010, Miscavige sent four of these five people in a private jet to recover him (Tommy Davis, Angie Blankenship, Bob Wright and Laurance Barram). As JB’s evidence unfolded on this blog for months, all four were driven into the ground by Miscavige for their epic failure of a mission. Three of the four responded by going out 2D (sexual relations outside of marriage).

Angie Blankenship got pregnant by the step son of OT Ambassador (and IAS robot) Tony Falcaro, whom she finagled into a secret liaison while supervising heavy building extortion on public and outsourcing expensive building plans in Los Angeles. Angie was routed out with her new beau and they were put up in Tony’s Santa Monica condo.


Can't wait to hear her story..........
 

dianaclass8

Silver Meritorious Patron
Petey, I could not bring myself to read the whole thing, it was too long and kind of boring. Can someone please post the highlights of the contents of the dissertation? Perhaps it was all lost in translation...or I don't know...

Pompous old fart. (Him, not you FTS!)
 

Sindy

Crusader
Based on what Marty is saying here, currently, I am more repulsed with Greg and Debbie Hughes and Angie Blankenship. Screw these people. Jesus. What is with these fucking people covering up crimes and being paid off with blood money. Sometimes I just want to scream at the top if my lungs.
 

dianaclass8

Silver Meritorious Patron
Based on what Marty is saying here, currently, I am more repulsed with Greg and Debbie Hughes and Angie Blankenship. Screw these people. Jesus. What is with these fucking people covering up crimes and being paid off with blood money. Sometimes I just want to scream at the top if my lungs.

Synthia, imagine how I feel, I left Scn 15 years ago...and still resonate on this last thought....
 
... I get the idea (and I know people may feel like jumping all over me for this) that Marty is a troubled, soft-hearted ruffian who has a temper and who alternates between teddy bear and thug, spinning around not knowing what to do while he decompresses out in the public arena. It can't be easy. ...

I agree. Still, a huggable thug is nonetheless a thug. The fact is Rathbun remains a thug, and an utterly unrepentant thug at that. He's apparently still in the same business. He just changed gang affiliation.

Not a man to be believed or credited.

I'd like to see him change his life for the better, but there is no sign of that happening yet.


Mark A. Baker
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Based on what Marty is saying here, currently, I am more repulsed with Greg and Debbie Hughes and Angie Blankenship. Screw these people. Jesus. What is with these fucking people covering up crimes and being paid off with blood money. Sometimes I just want to scream at the top if my lungs.

Yep, I hear you, but maybe, just maybe ... the end result of this trial will mean that those agreements truly are not worth the paper they were printed on and they can all come out and say whatever they like.

:clap:

I hope David and Julie Mayo are reading this, but I also hope they are at peace and feel no need to voice their thoughts if they have moved beyond the point where it would help them personally.

:yes:

 

Sindy

Crusader
Synthia, imagine how I feel, I left Scn 15 years ago...and still resonate on this last thought....

Aida, I know. I have said it before and I will say it again. I wish I had awakened and come to my senses much earlier so that you, and so many others that were trying to get those inside to listen, could have been acknowledged and given the help you truly, truly deserved. Thank you for persisting. :hug:

I am SO GLAD I am out!
 

Sindy

Crusader
I agree. Still, a huggable thug is nonetheless a thug. The fact is Rathbun remains a thug, and an utterly unrepentant thug at that. He's apparently still in the same business. He just changed gang affiliation.

Not a man to be believed or credited.

I'd like to see him change his life for the better, but there is no sign of that happening yet.


Mark A. Baker

No, I watch him with a very skeptical eye. Believe me. However, he does tell the truth often and he has given much valuable information so, I don't agree that you can rightly make a wholesale, blanket statement, that he cannot to be believed. That's not true.

I wondered, when I read the Debbie Cook story on his blog almost a year and half ago, if he was lying. It turns out that he was telling the whole truth.

That doesn't whitewash everything though. I'm just making a single point.
 

Sindy

Crusader
Emma, two times in the last couple of days, the "edit post" button goes away. What's happening? :confused2: :) Oh. I remember now.

Think the amount of time to edit needs to be longer. I often don't notice my errors until I read someone else quoting me. By that time it may be too late.
 

dianaclass8

Silver Meritorious Patron
Synthia, some wake up early some later, but sooner or later people do wake up, thanks to you and to others who persist on this board.

As for Marty acting as a mafia Don, that is exactly what I said in my blog on an anwer to a comment to my friend Silvia; that these thugs are killing each other...and we only care because we want justice.

http://aidathomas.wordpress.com/2012/02/10/scientology-withdraws-request-for-temporary-injunction/

Aida, I know. I have said it before and I will say it again. I wish I had awakened and come to my senses much earlier so that you, and so many others that were trying to get those inside to listen, could have been acknowledged and given the help you truly, truly deserved. Thank you for persisting. :hug:

I am SO GLAD I am out!
 

Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
Emma, two times in the last couple of days, the "edit post" button goes away. What's happening? :confused2: :) Oh. I remember now.

Think the amount of time to edit needs to be longer. I often don't notice my errors until I read someone else quoting me. By that time it may be too late.

A lot of forums don't give you any opportunity to edit at all. ARS was/is like that. Once you hit submit you are stuck with it.

Sorry, but there are spell checkers you can install in browsers, you can preview your post first & you have 1/2 hour to make any changes.

I'm not changing it.
 

Sindy

Crusader
A lot of forums don't give you any opportunity to edit at all. ARS was/is like that. Once you hit submit you are stuck with it.

Sorry, but there are spell checkers you can install in browsers, you can preview your post first & you have 1/2 hour to make any changes.

I'm not changing it.

Okay. I'll have to not be so quick to press submit. It's weird how I don't see my errors even after I've read the thing like 5 times and then, they stand out like a sore thumb when I see them quoted. Oh well. I'll live. :bigcry:
 

Dean Blair

Silver Meritorious Patron
I am going to stick up for Marty and his blog and I will tell you why.

I was in Scientology for 40 years. Twenty of those years included being in the SO or on staff at an org. I am no longer a Scientologist independent or otherwise. Some of my favorite posters here are people like "helluvahoax", "gotta brain", "AnonyMary", "Alanzo" and many others with that type of attitude.

A little over two years ago I began reading about Scientology on the internet and ran into all of the wonderful interviews and reports done by the St. Petersburg Times. That was the first time I had ever heard of Marty Rathbun. It was also the first time I had heard of a lot of the other whistle blowers.

I began reading Marty's blog every night along with many other blogs and message boards and all of them were helpful. Marty was instrumental in exposing much of what Miscavige was doing and while Marty has not disclosed everything by a long shot, he did enlighten me and a lot of other people so I have got to give him grace on that.

To have someone who has been in Scientology for any length of time read a completely anti-Scientology website such as Arnie Lerma's page might turn many people off. While I feel that what is written on these extremely critical websites is most often true, it is a bit overwhelming at first and can be rejected by someone who is just leaving the cult.

Marty's website takes a more gradient approach and allows the reader to reject some of the goings on in Scientology without rejecting all of it. As some of these things that have been going on are exposed one becomes more able to think for themselves.

Then, as one reads more and looks at some of the other websites that are critical of Hubbard and Scientology, more layers of the onion are peeled away. Eventually you get a fuller understanding and will become free and regain your critical thinking.

Because of this I love Marty just as I love all of you.

None of this would have been possible without the internet and I am so thankful for everyone who has contributed to the exposure of the Church of Scientology no matter how large or how small. The truth shall set you free.
 
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