Remember KSW??

[dulltheaxe]

I just wanted to say that there is alot of crap out there and some people don't have the correct info.

Some of you also complain about the injustices you've received and
"what's been done to you".

But the question I ask you is, what didn't you do to handle it? Did you at least try? If you respect LRH's teachings, did you apply it??

Take a look at some of the quotes here then answer.

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
KEEPING SCIENTLOGY WORKNG SERIES 1

Note: Neglect of this PL has caused great hardship on staffs, has cost countless millions and made it necessary in 1970 to engage in an all-out international effort to restore basic Scientology over the world. Within 5 years after the issue of this PL, with me off the lines, violation had almost destroyed orgs. "Quickie grades" entered in and denied gain to tens of thousands of cases. Therefore actions which neglect or violate this policy letter are HIGH CRIMES resulting in Comm Evs on ADMINISTRATORS and EXECUTIVES. It is not "entirely a tech matter" as its neglect destroys orgs and caused a 2-year slump. IT IS THE BUSINESS OF EVERY STAFF MEMBER to enforce it.

“… SCIENTOLOGY WILL KEEP WORKING ONLY AS LONG AS YOU DO YOUR PART TO KEEP IT WORKNG BY APPLYING THIS POLICY LETTER.”


HCOPL KNOWLEDGE REPORTS

“The question one can ask of any group that is not doing well is this: Why did the other group members tolerate and ignore the loafers or out-ethics cats in it?

In analyzing countless numbers of groups with whom it has been my good fortune—or misfortune—to be associated, I finally isolated ONE factor which made an upstat group upstat and a downstat group downstat and a horror to be around.

The single most notable difference between an upstat, easy to live and work with group and a downstat, hard to live and work with group is that the individual group members themselves enforce the action and mores of the group.

That is the difference—no other.

In an upstat group, at the first pinprick, Joe would probably have a black eye!”

…
“1. Anyone who knew of a loafing or destructive or off-policy or out-ethics action and WHO DID NOT FILE A KNOWLEDGE REPORT becomes an ACCESSORY in any justice action taken thereafter.

2. Forbidding anyone to write a Knowledge Report, makes the person forbidding it and the person accepting this illegal order, both accessories to any later action taken.

3. Failing to write down a disclosed crime in a worksheet or a report makes the person failing to do so an ACCESSORY to the crime.”

 

[GreyWolf]

Did you read my post about my comm-ev? I got killed for applying policy and trying to block off policy actions!

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

Nuremberg Redux

NUREMBERG PROSECUTOR: "Isn't it true that you were an accessory the deaths of over 50,000 Jews in concentration camps in the year 1941 alone?"

NAZI: "That is an outpoint that I took responsibility for when I wrote a Knowledge Report on Adolph Hitler in January of 1942."

NUREMBERG PROSECUTOR: "I have original copies right here of orders that you personally signed in the years 1942 to 1944 that ordered and carried out the systematic murder of an additional 1 million Jews!"

NAZI: "Yes, but I took total responsibility for that as well!"

NUREMBERG PROSECUTOR: "Really?!!! And how did you do that?!"

NAZI: " In 1945 I wrote a very sharply worded 'Things That Shouldn't Be Report' about the fact that they hadn't answered my earlier KR."

 

[Panda Termint]

I just wanted to say that there is alot of crap out there and some people don't have the correct info.
<...snip>

This part of your first post is quite true.

As for the rest and your suggestion, allow me to refer you to the CofS Exit Rundown;

(1) Observe the most obvious departure from Standard Tech/Policy in your immediate scientology environment.
(2) Write it up fully as a KR and send it to all terminals who are responsible for ensuring the standard application of scn Tech and Policy.
(3) Honestly observe what happens next, particularly to you.

Conditional: If you don't get the full EP on the first run-thru, just continue noting, reporting and observing with the next most obvious outness. If you have trouble with the first step, you may need to do the Obnosis Drill as a prerequisite.

Good luck.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

This part of your first post is quite true.

As for the rest and your suggestion, allow me to refer you to the CofS Exit Rundown;

(1) Observe the most obvious departure from Standard Tech/Policy in your immediate scientology environment.
(2) Write it up fully as a KR and send it to all terminals who are responsible for ensuring the standard application of scn Tech and Policy.
(3) Honestly observe what happens next, particularly to you.

Conditional: If you don't get the full EP on the first run-thru, just continue noting, reporting and observing with the next most obvious outness.

Good luck.

WARNING! THE SURGEON GENERAL HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS KAMIKAZE TECH MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR INDOCTRINATION.

 

[Kathy (ImOut)]

Dulltheaxe,

Have you ever been told that because your child was only in the SO for five months that she didn't need a sec check for leaving the SO? Trust me, I wrote it up and I pointed out that I had only been on Mission Staff for even less time and I still received a Sec Check. And she still never got her leaving staff sec check.

Do I care now, NO. But at the time, I most certainly did. Tech wasn't being applied to my kid.

Maybe this applies to some, but I know many people applied policy only to have it either ignored or told they weren't applying the "right" policy.

 

[He-man]

I just wanted to say that there is alot of crap out there and some people don't have the correct info.

Some of you also complain about the injustices you've received and
"what's been done to you".
”

Isn´t generalisations supposed to be one of the tell-tales of a suppressive person? Now, I do suffer from CBA, can someone please put in a reference on that? the page in the ethics book or the HCOPL itself would be dandy.

Or are you talking about "some" people on another board? If that would be the case I would please ask you ro stop 3rd-partying those poor fellas. Lean back and relax instead, take a deep breath and let go of the hate mongering.

 

[Good twin]

Good luck DTA. How long have you been applying policy?

Seriously though you can't blame us for our MUs. It's the evil transcriptionist's fault and Ron promised us in KSW series 1 that the tech was complete, but forty years later COB figured out that Ron didn't know what he was talking about.

So stick around for forty years and see if they get it right this time. Most of us are just beyond being over it.

Good Twin

 

[Winston Smith]

<snip>
So stick around for forty years and see if they get it right this time. Most of us are just beyond being over it.

Good Twin

My thoughts exactly Good (Evil) Twin! Haha...maybe 38 years ago I might have given a neuron to this post.

 

[Kathy (ImOut)]

In looking over this thread again - this is DulltheAxe's first post. What a way to join a group.

Dulltheaxe, if you read enough of the stories around here, you'd know that we all tried to apply policy. But when the policy is changing "daily" it's hard to keep up with what's current today.

 

[Iknowtoomuch]

Many times I wrote KR's I was the one to get in trouble. And if I didn't get in trouble nothing ever happened. It was pointless to write KR's.

 

[nozeno]

I just wanted to say that there is alot of crap out there and some people don't have the correct info.

Some of you also complain about the injustices you've received and
"what's been done to you".

But the question I ask you is, what didn't you do to handle it? Did you at least try? If you respect LRH's teachings, did you apply it??

Take a look at some of the quotes here then answer.

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
KEEPING SCIENTLOGY WORKNG SERIES 1

Note: Neglect of this PL has caused great hardship on staffs, has cost countless millions and made it necessary in 1970 to engage in an all-out international effort to restore basic Scientology over the world. Within 5 years after the issue of this PL, with me off the lines, violation had almost destroyed orgs. "Quickie grades" entered in and denied gain to tens of thousands of cases. Therefore actions which neglect or violate this policy letter are HIGH CRIMES resulting in Comm Evs on ADMINISTRATORS and EXECUTIVES. It is not "entirely a tech matter" as its neglect destroys orgs and caused a 2-year slump. IT IS THE BUSINESS OF EVERY STAFF MEMBER to enforce it.

“… SCIENTOLOGY WILL KEEP WORKING ONLY AS LONG AS YOU DO YOUR PART TO KEEP IT WORKNG BY APPLYING THIS POLICY LETTER.”


HCOPL KNOWLEDGE REPORTS

“The question one can ask of any group that is not doing well is this: Why did the other group members tolerate and ignore the loafers or out-ethics cats in it?

In analyzing countless numbers of groups with whom it has been my good fortune—or misfortune—to be associated, I finally isolated ONE factor which made an upstat group upstat and a downstat group downstat and a horror to be around.

The single most notable difference between an upstat, easy to live and work with group and a downstat, hard to live and work with group is that the individual group members themselves enforce the action and mores of the group.

That is the difference—no other.

In an upstat group, at the first pinprick, Joe would probably have a black eye!”

…
“1. Anyone who knew of a loafing or destructive or off-policy or out-ethics action and WHO DID NOT FILE A KNOWLEDGE REPORT becomes an ACCESSORY in any justice action taken thereafter.

2. Forbidding anyone to write a Knowledge Report, makes the person forbidding it and the person accepting this illegal order, both accessories to any later action taken.

3. Failing to write down a disclosed crime in a worksheet or a report makes the person failing to do so an ACCESSORY to the crime.”

 

[Good twin]

I remember once an Exec at a higher org told me to stop writing KRs. I liked her and so reminded her that she wasn't per policy allowed to discourage me from writing a report.

She got all flustered and said "Dammit, Patti. I didn't mean you can't write them, but you expect the Org to act on them."

I laughed and said, "Hell, I don't expect anyone to act on them. I just want them on file so eventually when the bitch blows or gets comm eved I can say 'I told you so'."

True story.

 

[Chess]

In looking over this thread again - this is DulltheAxe's first post. What a way to join a group.

Dulltheaxe, if you read enough of the stories around here, you'd know that we all tried to apply policy. But when the policy is changing "daily" it's hard to keep up with what's current today.

Indeed - what a way to introduce yourself - however, there's an old military saying/tactic = 'up the guts with plenty of smoke'. Works sometimes and certainly lets others know you're there with intention.
In all honestly as far as I observe a war has been declared against sanity some time ago within, for and against the Cof$ - unfortunately there are casualities in all conflicts. It's the clever, not so downtrodden ones that get up out of the mud and stick it to the enemy again, apathy's a bitch. In time we will survey the remains of the DM organisation in smouldering ruins - then what? Has the reason we got into Scn in the first palce dissolved - not with my reading of world media.
Good question hey? I wonder just what step of what gradient we are on...
Dulltheaxe is just in there pitching - good luck to them

 

[Chess]

Welcome. It's good to see another come here with the fortitude to speak up. I admire anyone who states their case clearly and with intention. Look around, read & see things - your viewpoint is welcome

 

[Searcher Again]

In 1965 the HCOPL says:

"We have some time since passed the point of achieving uniformly workable technology."

The changes in the tech which continues today brought me to question just what is uniformly workable technology?

Anyone remember the Happiness Rundown? That was the biggest thing going at the time (Jeffery Lewis). It's a smear on the blipscreen now.

 

[Good twin]

In 1965 the HCOPL says:

"We have some time since passed the point of achieving uniformly workable technology."

The changes in the tech which continues today brought me to question just what is uniformly workable technology?

Anyone remember the Happiness Rundown? That was the biggest thing going at the time (Jeffery Lewis). It's a smear on the blipscreen now.

Nope. Not true. As a matter of fact the Happiness Rundown has been dusted off and reissued and is now actually ON the grade chart. (after Scn DRD and before ARC SW)

 

[Mystic]

I just wanted to say that there is alot of crap out there and some people don't have the correct info.

Some of you also complain about the injustices you've received and
"what's been done to you".

But the question I ask you is, what didn't you do to handle it? Did you at least try? If you respect LRH's teachings, did you apply it??

Take a look at some of the quotes here then answer.

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
KEEPING SCIENTLOGY WORKNG SERIES 1

Note: Neglect of this PL has caused great hardship on staffs, has cost countless millions and made it necessary in 1970 to engage in an all-out international effort to restore basic Scientology over the world. Within 5 years after the issue of this PL, with me off the lines, violation had almost destroyed orgs. "Quickie grades" entered in and denied gain to tens of thousands of cases. Therefore actions which neglect or violate this policy letter are HIGH CRIMES resulting in Comm Evs on ADMINISTRATORS and EXECUTIVES. It is not "entirely a tech matter" as its neglect destroys orgs and caused a 2-year slump. IT IS THE BUSINESS OF EVERY STAFF MEMBER to enforce it.

“… SCIENTOLOGY WILL KEEP WORKING ONLY AS LONG AS YOU DO YOUR PART TO KEEP IT WORKNG BY APPLYING THIS POLICY LETTER.”


HCOPL KNOWLEDGE REPORTS

“The question one can ask of any group that is not doing well is this: Why did the other group members tolerate and ignore the loafers or out-ethics cats in it?

In analyzing countless numbers of groups with whom it has been my good fortune—or misfortune—to be associated, I finally isolated ONE factor which made an upstat group upstat and a downstat group downstat and a horror to be around.

The single most notable difference between an upstat, easy to live and work with group and a downstat, hard to live and work with group is that the individual group members themselves enforce the action and mores of the group.

That is the difference—no other.

In an upstat group, at the first pinprick, Joe would probably have a black eye!”

…
“1. Anyone who knew of a loafing or destructive or off-policy or out-ethics action and WHO DID NOT FILE A KNOWLEDGE REPORT becomes an ACCESSORY in any justice action taken thereafter.

2. Forbidding anyone to write a Knowledge Report, makes the person forbidding it and the person accepting this illegal order, both accessories to any later action taken.

3. Failing to write down a disclosed crime in a worksheet or a report makes the person failing to do so an ACCESSORY to the crime.”

Thank gawhd nothing in scifaggOTry works, including this post.

 

[altruistichedonist]

Welcome dulltheaxe.

That's STEERRIIKKE ONE !

You obviously need to read all of this site before you blow off another of your toes !

How long have you been in or were in the Church of Scientology ? 3 months ? pity.

 

[MostlyLurker]

Welcome dulltheaxe!

Thanks for your effort to help us!

I am familiar with KSW and the KR policy and I want to answer you with these examples:

Mary Jo Leavitt's Cover Letter and
Mary Jo Leavitt's Knoweldge Report

In short: You can't expect to handle mafia criminality by sending your KRs to Al Capone (David Miscavige).