Review Oblivian

[functionunknown]

Maybe Tom will take away from this movie the same thing I did (it's pretty blatant) and apply it to his IRL . [caution:spoiler alert] > see image link

Also, plot very similar to Moon: the movie

 

[Intentionally Blank]

We saw it last night. Here are the things I found scientologically fascinating: >> SPOILER ALERT!!<<

Jack (TC) and partner think they're out to get the alien bad guys - but they're not. They are hunting and killing their own kind.

The all powerful voice from Command is really the bad guy out to harm (not save) humankind. It is sucking the earth dry of its last remaining resource. AND it seeks to destroy those who would think and act for themselves and their freedom.

Jack's "memories" aren't really his - they are recalled events from another time and place.

Jack and his partner are created to be cookie cutter zombies who follow orders without question.

There's nothing bad on the other side of the do-not-cross line.

Jack is saved when he listens to his own heart and conscience and ignores Command.

The earth is a beautiful, sacred, place of nurturing healing gifts -- not a prison of entrapment.

TC, as Jack, saves the planet and the remaining humans when he claims his integrity and brings down the alien Tet Command center with a bomb from the inside.


I had a moment or two of wondering, as Jack blows up the Tet Command, if TC had any idea how one could make a little comparison to scn -- and him -- and only hope that Jack's brave sacrifice is a hidden omen.

Blanky

 

[PirateAndBum]

We saw it last night. Here are the things I found scientologically fascinating: >> SPOILER ALERT!!<<

Jack (TC) and partner think they're out to get the alien bad guys - but they're not. They are hunting and killing their own kind.

The all powerful voice from Command is really the bad guy out to harm (not save) humankind. It is sucking the earth dry of its last remaining resource. AND it seeks to destroy those who would think and act for themselves and their freedom.

Jack's "memories" aren't really his - they are recalled events from another time and place.

Jack and his partner are created to be cookie cutter zombies who follow orders without question.

There's nothing bad on the other side of the do-not-cross line.

Jack is saved when he listens to his own heart and conscience and ignores Command.

The earth is a beautiful, sacred, place of nurturing healing gifts -- not a prison of entrapment.

TC, as Jack, saves the planet and the remaining humans when he claims his integrity and brings down the alien Tet Command center with a bomb from the inside.


I had a moment or two of wondering, as Jack blows up the Tet Command, if TC had any idea how one could make a little comparison to scn -- and him -- and only hope that Jack's brave sacrifice is a hidden omen.

Blanky

Wow, that's too funny. It would be great if this comparison were picked up on by media.

Or is Tom's part in the film a statement that he, like Lisa Marie Presley, has come to some semblance of awareness of the con?

 

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Or is Tom's part in the film a statement that he, like Lisa Marie Presley, has come to some semblance of awareness of the con?

Right?? I kept having this wondering/wishing it were so. It was like watching shadow Tom as he should be. Heh.


I can't post my comparison anywhere that could identify me (like facebook) but feel free to plagiarize

 

[Gib]

Yes it was very poor on important details. For example TCs character and partner
were working at killing humans when they thought they were killing straggler aliens.
Not explained.

Bit like Dino de Laurentis telling David Lynch on Dune he's going to tear a page out of the script
for every day over schedule. Dunno if that happened, but following the film on first
watching it was fairly incomprehensible [ never read the book] but my impression at the end was that it was the greatest sci-fi film i'd seen.

But then I'm a sci-fi junkie.

I saw it today.

I liked it. The special effects were good. The action was good. The acting was good. I'm easy. Plus I like Morgan Freeman.

You just have to fill in the blanks about missing data. :confused2: not meaning confused, but my take.

I actually thought TC did a good job. And I actually feel sorry for the dude for being connected to DM and being so deep in scn. And I guess one can thank Marty for that since Marty recovered him, but , and then Marty tried to get him to see the light once Marty escaped (blew) thru his blog.

On an aside, I am looking forward to the this summer releases of Iron Man and Star Trek.

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

In fairness to the director, the movie is getting rave reviews for its visual beauty.

Other reviews talk about Cruise offering up, in lieu of acting, his "worried face" and his "happy face" and his "intense face."

Funny stuff.

TG1

So the reviews don't address the substance, just the surface? Ha! That is a euphemism for saying I am getting paid a shit load to review this movie but I have a reputation too.

 

[oneonewasaracecar]

We saw it last night. Here are the things I found scientologically fascinating: >> SPOILER ALERT!!<<

Jack (TC) and partner think they're out to get the alien bad guys - but they're not. They are hunting and killing their own kind.

The all powerful voice from Command is really the bad guy out to harm (not save) humankind. It is sucking the earth dry of its last remaining resource. AND it seeks to destroy those who would think and act for themselves and their freedom.

Jack's "memories" aren't really his - they are recalled events from another time and place.

Jack and his partner are created to be cookie cutter zombies who follow orders without question.

There's nothing bad on the other side of the do-not-cross line.

Jack is saved when he listens to his own heart and conscience and ignores Command.

The earth is a beautiful, sacred, place of nurturing healing gifts -- not a prison of entrapment.

TC, as Jack, saves the planet and the remaining humans when he claims his integrity and brings down the alien Tet Command center with a bomb from the inside.


I had a moment or two of wondering, as Jack blows up the Tet Command, if TC had any idea how one could make a little comparison to scn -- and him -- and only hope that Jack's brave sacrifice is a hidden omen.

Blanky

That is a good review of the movie. Quite incisive.

 

[Sidney18511]

I used to like Tom Cruise's movies. I have probably seen all of his pre-crazy flicks. But now....I wouldn't see a film of his if they paid me.
I don't expect him to take scamology down, but.....he could, if he wanted to stop the suffering of hundreds of SO members traped in the web, after all, he is a "big being".

 

[Boson Wog Stark]

http://www.laineygossip.com/Tom-Cruise-Oblivion-movie-review/26514
Also, and I’m with Lainey on this, Tom needs to stop taking his shirt off. I don’t need to be reminded that he’s gestating sea monsters in there.

Not that I'm a Mel Gibson fan, but he once joked that after a few movies in a row where he showed his bare butt, that they wouldn't let him make a movie without doing that. Seems to be that way with Cruise taking his shirt off and showing his lipo-suctioned abs.

I cringe at the thought of any new Cruise movie becoming a big hit, because people get so swept away in movies, characters and the stars who portray them, that it will erase their memory of anything being fishy about Sciloontology or Cruise's endorsement of it.

 

[Sassy]

Today's box office reports are something like $35 or $37 million, quite impressive for an opening weekend. There are majorly mixed reviews so
it'll be interesting to see what word of mouth & reviews do for it this coming week/weekend. I too won't give a penny of my money to anything
associated with Cruise. He's in so deep, he can't see a way out & until then.......

Rotten Tomatos is a great sight for reviews & Box Office Mojo is great for the $$$ end of the industry.

For what it's worth, I was bored over the weekend & scrolling through the on-demand movies on my cable company. I could not believe how many
films are out there starring Cruise. I'd LOVE to know what his residual income is for these films---it must be HUGE.

Anyone know how much he's donated to the Cult? Is there a way to find out?

 

[Teanntás]

"Was Cruise trying to beat out fellow Scientologist John Travolta for the honor of starring in the dumbest sci-fi epic ever? Thank heavens, he lost — nothing will ever be as shatteringly inane as the L. Ron Hubbard–based Battlefield Earth. But joining forces with the director of Tron: Legacy was like checking “d” on the form that said, “I want my space movies more (a) incoherent, (b) plodding, (c) migraine-inducing, or (d) all of the above.” Oblivion spins the same kind of paranoid futuristic fantasy as Battlefield Earth, in which a man must learn the true nature of his identity: that his body is but a temporary vessel, his soul immortal. Only then can he take on an evil empire of plundering anti-individualists from an unnamed planet that sounds like Xenu."

More here

http://hollywoodlife.com/2013/04/20/oblivion-reviews-tom-cruise-new-movie/

 

[Sassy]

www.boxofficemojo.com reports the flick is down about 52%. Seems maybe everyone who wanted to see it did so in the first weekend, and word of mouth
is not doing much to help. Iron Man opened with $195.3 million overseas (Avengers opened at same time last year to $185 million). Anyone else seen Oblivion & have any feedback?

 

[sallydannce]

Not particularly kind to Cruise, but rather on the mark, imho.

The authentic-self, long gone.

Full article here:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/8614398/Tom-Cruises-secret-autobiography

Tom Cruise's secret autobiography

Tom Cruise is one of the world's most visible people, and one of its least seen.

Movie stars, like politicians or other public figures, learn early on how to feign candor while keeping themselves hidden, revealing enough to give their adoring public a feeling of personal connection while keeping their private selves private.

But in the course of more than three decades in the public eye, Cruise has lost the art of authenticity. Queue up the talk show appearances promoting his new movie, Oblivion, on YouTube, and you'll see an endless procession of gigawatt grins, gleaming teeth stretching from Burbank to Manhattan.

What you won't see is a single genuine or unstudied moment, a glimpse of the man sealed inside that inch-thick coating of industrial-grade charisma.

Stacee is a fraud, and he knows it. Is it Cruise confessing, or him playing off the notion of the disaffected star while secretly loving every minute of it? Cruise keeps peeling back his mask, but underneath is another, and another, and beneath that, maybe nothing at all.

 

[Queenmab321]

So, I just saw Oblivion, and I must say I really enjoyed it. Although one of the main plot twists was more or less lifted out of the 2009 indie, science fiction movie Moon (highly recommended by the way), the overall Philip K. Dick theme about identity, loyalty, betrayal, etc., was, I think, beautifully executed.


Spoiler alert here; if you haven't seen the movie and think you might want to, stop here. I'd hate to ruin it for you.


A feature of the plot is that Cruise's character Jack along with his partner Victoria, "Vicca," played by Andera Riseborough, have had their memories erased for security purposes prior to their having been stationed on earth where we find them at the opening of the movie. In an opening voice over, Jack explains that the earth was attacked by aliens, that the successful defeat of the aliens through the use of atomic weapons along with the destruction of the moon have rendered the world barely habitable and left it infested with straggler aliens called "scavs." The remnant of humanity have moved to Titan. Jack and Vicca's mission is to protect huge ocean rigs that are removing vast quantities of sea water and mining it for (converting it to?) tritium.


As it turns out, there are no humans on Titan, the scavs are the surviving remnant of humanity and Jack and Vicca, having been duped by the aliens, are actually working on their behalf to help extract the tritium and kill the remaining humans.


Okay, so here's the thing. I think it's interesting that one of Hubbard's ideas, if I have it right, is that we "thetans," being eternal, can't be killed, but we can be incapacitated by having our memories erased, that when we are born into our current bodies this is what has happened. As a result, not only are we are denied knowledge of our true identities, we have been programmed to see the world falsely and to live lives that are antithetical to our own interests and to the interests of all humanity. There's a poignant scene in which Cruise's character, having realized his true identity as well as the sinister identity of his superiors at "mission control," returns his base to save his partner Victoria. But, despite his pleadings, she is unwilling to believe him, she reports him to mission control and thereby, unwittingly gets herself killed. As I watched this scene, I couldn't help but think that this must be very similar to the way in which Scientologists view "wogs," especially non-Scientologist family members and friends who, from the vantage point of the faithful, persist in blindness with regard to what is really going on.


I think this is fascinating. I welcome your thoughts and comments.


Philip

 

[Terril park]

So, I just saw Oblivion, and I must say I really enjoyed it. Although one of the main plot twists was more or less lifted out of the 2009 indie, science fiction movie Moon (highly recommended by the way), the overall Philip K. Dick theme about identity, loyalty, betrayal, etc., was, I think, beautifully executed.


Spoiler alert here; if you haven't seen the movie and think you might want to, stop here. I'd hate to ruin it for you.


A feature of the plot is that Cruise's character Jack along with his partner Victoria, "Vicca," played by Andera Riseborough, have had their memories erased for security purposes prior to their having been stationed on earth where we find them at the opening of the movie. In an opening voice over, Jack explains that the earth was attacked by aliens, that the successful defeat of the aliens through the use of atomic weapons along with the destruction of the moon have rendered the world barely habitable and left it infested with straggler aliens called "scavs." The remnant of humanity have moved to Titan. Jack and Vicca's mission is to protect huge ocean rigs that are removing vast quantities of sea water and mining it for (converting it to?) tritium.


As it turns out, there are no humans on Titan, the scavs are the surviving remnant of humanity and Jack and Vicca, having been duped by the aliens, are actually working on their behalf to help extract the tritium and kill the remaining humans.


Okay, so here's the thing. I think it's interesting that one of Hubbard's ideas, if I have it right, is that we "thetans," being eternal, can't be killed, but we can be incapacitated by having our memories erased, that when we are born into our current bodies this is what has happened. As a result, not only are we are denied knowledge of our true identities, we have been programmed to see the world falsely and to live lives that are antithetical to our own interests and to the interests of all humanity. There's a poignant scene in which Cruise's character, having realized his true identity as well as the sinister identity of his superiors at "mission control," returns his base to save his partner Victoria. But, despite his pleadings, she is unwilling to believe him, she reports him to mission control and thereby, unwittingly gets herself killed. As I watched this scene, I couldn't help but think that this must be very similar to the way in which Scientologists view "wogs," especially non-Scientologist family members and friends who, from the vantage point of the faithful, persist in blindness with regard to what is really going on.


I think this is fascinating. I welcome your thoughts and comments.


Philip

I loved the movie also. Don't think anything by Hubbard was in this movie.
Just pure unadulterated Sci Fi which has few boundaries.

 

[johnAnchovie]

I cannot watch Cruise without an overwhelming sense of nausea. The camera worships his carefully polished features reminiscent, for me at least, of that horribly exploited child, Baby Boo Boo, on stage at one of those perverted beauty pageants that a worryingly large proportion of Americans seem to flock to. Though I must say that Baby Boo Boo comes out of these events with much more of her dignity and humanity intact than Cruise does from his patently staged gleaming toothed interviews.

I did brave his last MI film on DVD. It was unoriginal and derivative in the extreme. The clips I have seen for Oblivious appear to be a poorly compiled rehash of other films in this scifi genre - Moon, The Matrix etc.

Cruise grabs centre stage as the hero, victim and hero again. His swollen ego and sense of entitlement gets in the way of an already weak narrative thus obfuscating any chance that the effort might deliver even a sliver of filmic satisfaction.

I would recommend that you do not waste your time or hard earned money in supporting this flimsy attempt at Cruise public profile rehabilitation. There are thousands of far more worthy films out there - Let me recommend a couple that are rich in humanity, emotionally nuanced and at the same time, gripping.

The Station Agent: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340377/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Biutiful: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1164999/

Lars and the Real Girl: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0805564/?ref_=sr_1

All of these wonderful productions are made from a place of emotional maturity, that is, the authors have clearly lived emotionally in the the real world with real people and have managed to translate these experiences into stories that delight, empower and embolden the viewer. These films display depth and sensitivity and encourage us to see the beauty of human interaction and experience.

You have come through the artificial Scientology cuckoo's nest drained, damaged and disorientated. These three films will help to nurture and revive your view of life in all of its understated richness.
I might be encouraged to describe them as delicious, fresh organic food for the soul as opposed to the saccharine infused, mass produced junk that Cruise and his team dole out to the wide eyed and credulous.