Reviews and Media on HBO Documentary Going Clear
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Are you kidding me ?
Freedom Media Ethics, the new CULT mad attack dog on HBO is Twittering furiously
Freedom Media Ethics must be having a bad hair day or their monthly period.
Speechless. Really, we're dealing with a bunch of lunatic, wild, rabid animals in a cage when it comes right down to it (I'm never speechless I guess).
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And from everything I have heard about the doco, the reason this will be some kind of watershed is that Gibney and Wright are getting everyone else to own it.
They are turning people from interested or disinterested SPECTATORS, to participants.
Let's see what Ron has to say about that.
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 13 SEPTEMBER 1980
Remimeo
(Originally LRH OODs Item
of 14 January 1969)
SPECTATORISM
Spectatorism is very great in our modern society.
Because some people cannot conceive of causing anything they just watch it. They don't do anything. They are not PARTICIPANTS. They are spectators.
You see this in magazines. Hee hee hee articles about how odd this is or that is. No understanding of it. It's just odd and one watches it in a detached sort of way..........
.........What we need are more PARTICIPANTS, ........"
Stats to be sent to Karin Pouw.
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Is that poop smeared on that poor dude????
At flag, the sea ogres are so short for cash for toilet paper, they have to use RPFers.
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Scientology Is Helpless Against HBO’s New Documentary, Even If It Doesn’t Think So
The following is a good article that does more than just repeat common media talking points, and attempts some analysis. It is particularly good at explaining things to the Twitterati.
The Daily Banter: Scientology Is Helpless Against HBO’s New Documentary, Even If It Doesn’t Think So
http://thedailybanter.com/2015/01/scientology-helpless-hbos-new-documentary-even-doesnt-think/
* * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * *
If you’ve seen the tweets from Freedom Media Ethics and wondered A) why you’ve never heard of the organization before, and B) why you’re suddenly getting tweets from a group that has less than 300 followers, the answer is simple: It’s because Freedom Media Ethics is an arm of Scientology and the tweets are sponsored, part of a massive media campaign of P.R. and retaliation against Gibney’s film, which Scientology understands is absolutely a threat to it.
Here’s the thing, though: There’s nothing Scientology can do here. Nothing. It’s fucked. Despite the best efforts of Miscavige’s minions, Gibney’s documentary is going to serve as the final nail in the coffin of an organization that’s been dying for at least the past decade. Former Village Voice editor Tony Ortega, who’s one of the most vocal and thorough critics of Scientology, has chronicled the church’s dwindling numbers and resources for some time now. In addition to posting some of the most insane P.R. stunts the organization has pulled in an effort to make it seem like everything’s coming up roses within its ranks — the jaw-dropping fundraising video set to the very off-key tune of We Built This City and We’re Not Gonna Take It will haunt your brain for a month — Ortega has used sources inside Scientology to confirm that the organization is furious and scared of the blowback from the Gibney documentary. And blowback is guaranteed, either in the form of an outright public rallying cry to have the organization’s tax exempt status removed or, at the very least, more relentless mockery.
* * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
The following is a good article that does more than just repeat common media talking points, and attempts some analysis. It is particularly good at explaining things to the Twitterati.
The Daily Banter: Scientology Is Helpless Against HBO’s New Documentary, Even If It Doesn’t Think So
http://thedailybanter.com/2015/01/scientology-helpless-hbos-new-documentary-even-doesnt-think/
* * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * *
If you’ve seen the tweets from Freedom Media Ethics and wondered A) why you’ve never heard of the organization before, and B) why you’re suddenly getting tweets from a group that has less than 300 followers, the answer is simple: It’s because Freedom Media Ethics is an arm of Scientology and the tweets are sponsored, part of a massive media campaign of P.R. and retaliation against Gibney’s film, which Scientology understands is absolutely a threat to it.
Here’s the thing, though: There’s nothing Scientology can do here. Nothing. It’s fucked. Despite the best efforts of Miscavige’s minions, Gibney’s documentary is going to serve as the final nail in the coffin of an organization that’s been dying for at least the past decade. Former Village Voice editor Tony Ortega, who’s one of the most vocal and thorough critics of Scientology, has chronicled the church’s dwindling numbers and resources for some time now. In addition to posting some of the most insane P.R. stunts the organization has pulled in an effort to make it seem like everything’s coming up roses within its ranks — the jaw-dropping fundraising video set to the very off-key tune of We Built This City and We’re Not Gonna Take It will haunt your brain for a month — Ortega has used sources inside Scientology to confirm that the organization is furious and scared of the blowback from the Gibney documentary. And blowback is guaranteed, either in the form of an outright public rallying cry to have the organization’s tax exempt status removed or, at the very least, more relentless mockery.
* * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
JBWriter
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Re: Alex Gibney's (suhweet!)tweet above.
Since August 2013, a valid and legally enforceable Temporary Restraining Order ('TRO') issued by a Texas state court judge exists
which specifically prohibits David Miscavige from "contacting" and/or "harassing" Monique Rathbun and her family.
Link to TRO here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/161973862/Monique-Rathbun-Temporary-Restraining-Order
How can David Miscavige publicly respond to the Going Clear documentary without mentioning Mark ("Marty") Rathbun, hmm?
Also, if you read the entire TRO, while simultaneously thinking of all of the new/updated smear sites and sponsored hate ads on Google, it's reasonable to think that an average judge might well determine the TRO has been violated.
I'd very much like to see a Texas judge be given that opportunity.
JB
ETA:
The Twitter account (@freedomethics) that's been spewing the most slime about Going Clear and Mr. Gibney, Mr. Wright, Mr. Ortega, Mr. Rathbun, etc., was activated very recently. If scientology attorneys have to answer to a judge for such harassment, they'll certainly say that official scientology management knows nothing about that Twitter account.
Similarly, I'd expect scientology attorneys to disavow any knowledge about John Alex Wood's Twitter feed either, and that he's simply a concerned citizen.
Has the official scientology Twitter acount tweeted anything about Going Clear or any of the film's participants?
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Type4_PTS
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Re: Alex Gibney's (suhweet!)tweet above.
Since August 2013, a valid and legally enforceable Temporary Restraining Order ('TRO') issued by a Texas state court judge exists
which specifically prohibits David Miscavige from "contacting" and/or "harassing" Monique Rathbun and her family.
Link to TRO here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/161973862/Monique-Rathbun-Temporary-Restraining-Order
How can David Miscavige publicly respond to the Going Clear documentary without mentioning Mark ("Marty") Rathbun, hmm?
Also, if you read the entire TRO, while simultaneously thinking of all of the new/updated smear sites and sponsored hate ads on Google, it's reasonable to think that an average judge might well determine the TRO has been violated.
I'd very much like to see a Texas judge be given that opportunity.
JB
ETA:
The Twitter account (@freedomethics) that's been spewing the most slime about Going Clear and Mr. Gibney, Mr. Wright, Mr. Ortega, Mr. Rathbun, etc., was activated very recently. If scientology attorneys have to answer to a judge for such harassment, they'll certainly say that official scientology management knows nothing about that Twitter account.
Similarly, I'd expect scientology attorneys to disavow any knowledge about John Alex Wood's Twitter feed either, and that he's simply a concerned citizen.
Has the official scientology Twitter acount tweeted anything about Going Clear or any of the film's participants?
My answer to that would be that @freedomethics IS an official scientology twitter account, although they'll attempt to claim otherwise of course. But it was created in accordance with LRH policies and advices on how the CoS should handle such situations.
Their @Scientology twitter account hasn't acknowledged the Going Clear movie. They use that account for other purposes...
https://twitter.com/scientology
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oneonewasaracecar
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The advertisements fit with what Karen said in this post, quote below.
Until I watched that video, I could not make any sense out of why Scientology would make these ads which would do so much damage to their credibility. How stupid I thought. Until I realized that they are their for show, so the whales can see their money is being spent.
Until I watched that video, I could not make any sense out of why Scientology would make these ads which would do so much damage to their credibility. How stupid I thought. Until I realized that they are their for show, so the whales can see their money is being spent.
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Karin Pouw liability
There is tech/policy that has to be followed.
Scientology site:
Source
http://www.scientologycourses.org/courses-view/conditions/step/read-conditions-formulas.html
The formula for the condition of Emergency is:
"......1. Promote. That applies to an organization. To an individual you had better say “produce.” That’s the first action regardless of any other action, regardless of anything else, that is the first thing they have to put their attention on.
Exactly what is promotion? Well, look it up in the dictionary. It is making things known. It is getting things out. It is getting oneself known, getting one’s products out.
2. Change your operating basis. If, for instance, you went into a Condition of Emergency and then you didn’t change your operation after you had promoted, you will just head for another Condition of Emergency. So that has to be part of it. You had better change your operating basis because that operating basis led you into an Emergency.
3. Economize.
4. Prepare to deliver......"
All the promotion of OSA "safepointing" shite looks like they are heavily applying the "emergency formula". The condition of danger is the next lower condition, and if they must apply their conditions according to their beliefs they should probably apply danger however, that is scary and disrupting since it involves getting those who fuck up out of the way and taking the reins oneself - but how to do that, when you are overworked and understaffed. It's complicated because with some of the massive "Hill 10's" they are having, some of them would have to be assigned Danger or lower, and with DM reputedly being a micromanager, he is obsessively/compulsively applying Danger anyway, whatever other conditions he says he is applying or assigning, so it's a mess.
"..Step 2. Change your operating basis..." So for the front groups execs at the top, that must mean: "Forget Narconon, it's too enturbulating. Let's switch to colored T shirt photo ops".
There is also the aspect of handling bad PR by pulling your pants down and waving your stats all around. The colored T shirt chorus shows 'stats' by inference. "Look at how much good we do".
I couldn't be bothered looking properly at the full page NYer ads, but with the tweets and smear campaigns specifically, it seems there is a bit of the Liability formula, step
".....2. Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group one has been pretending to be part of despite personal danger.
Looks to me like Karin Pouw is applying liability there.
I think that applying Hubbard's conditions is going to put Karin Pouw more and more in the shitcan.
There is tech/policy that has to be followed.
Scientology site:
Source
http://www.scientologycourses.org/courses-view/conditions/step/read-conditions-formulas.htmlThe formula for the condition of Emergency is:
"......1. Promote. That applies to an organization. To an individual you had better say “produce.” That’s the first action regardless of any other action, regardless of anything else, that is the first thing they have to put their attention on.
Exactly what is promotion? Well, look it up in the dictionary. It is making things known. It is getting things out. It is getting oneself known, getting one’s products out.
2. Change your operating basis. If, for instance, you went into a Condition of Emergency and then you didn’t change your operation after you had promoted, you will just head for another Condition of Emergency. So that has to be part of it. You had better change your operating basis because that operating basis led you into an Emergency.
3. Economize.
4. Prepare to deliver......"
All the promotion of OSA "safepointing" shite looks like they are heavily applying the "emergency formula". The condition of danger is the next lower condition, and if they must apply their conditions according to their beliefs they should probably apply danger however, that is scary and disrupting since it involves getting those who fuck up out of the way and taking the reins oneself - but how to do that, when you are overworked and understaffed. It's complicated because with some of the massive "Hill 10's" they are having, some of them would have to be assigned Danger or lower, and with DM reputedly being a micromanager, he is obsessively/compulsively applying Danger anyway, whatever other conditions he says he is applying or assigning, so it's a mess.
"..Step 2. Change your operating basis..." So for the front groups execs at the top, that must mean: "Forget Narconon, it's too enturbulating. Let's switch to colored T shirt photo ops".
There is also the aspect of handling bad PR by pulling your pants down and waving your stats all around. The colored T shirt chorus shows 'stats' by inference. "Look at how much good we do".
I couldn't be bothered looking properly at the full page NYer ads, but with the tweets and smear campaigns specifically, it seems there is a bit of the Liability formula, step
".....2. Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group one has been pretending to be part of despite personal danger.
Looks to me like Karin Pouw is applying liability there.
I think that applying Hubbard's conditions is going to put Karin Pouw more and more in the shitcan.
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Miscavige may be batshit crazy, but he's not stupid. He knows that, post-Anonymous, recruitment rates are never getting back to even replacement levels. His only game now is getting as much cash from those still in as he can.
Karen#1
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Tony Ortega found a Facebook gem from a Radical and posted in today's blog.
http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/31/jon-atack-3/
It is invaluable to look into the mind of a devoted radical Scientologist. Here it is ~~
TONY ORTEGA says
And here’s the Scientologist comment of the day. Over at that Facebook conversation about Alex Gibney’s film we showed you the other day, this amazing statement was added a little later. This, folks, is how a Scientologist explains why he’s not going to see Going Clear…
Scientologist on Facebook :
http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/31/jon-atack-3/
It is invaluable to look into the mind of a devoted radical Scientologist. Here it is ~~
TONY ORTEGA says
And here’s the Scientologist comment of the day. Over at that Facebook conversation about Alex Gibney’s film we showed you the other day, this amazing statement was added a little later. This, folks, is how a Scientologist explains why he’s not going to see Going Clear…
Scientologist on Facebook :
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Gib
Crusader
Re: Karin Pouw liability
scientology has been in a condition of emergency since day 1.
scientology is constantly promoting, constantly PRing it is the fastest growing religion............
scientology has never been in a condition of normal or above.
For, if it was workable, there would be word of mouth, and lines around the block to get into a scientology "church" or "cathedral" :confused2:
There is tech/policy that has to be followed.
Scientology site:
Source
The formula for the condition of Emergency is:
"......1. Promote. That applies to an organization. To an individual you had better say “produce.” That’s the first action regardless of any other action, regardless of anything else, that is the first thing they have to put their attention on.
Exactly what is promotion? Well, look it up in the dictionary. It is making things known. It is getting things out. It is getting oneself known, getting one’s products out.
2. Change your operating basis. If, for instance, you went into a Condition of Emergency and then you didn’t change your operation after you had promoted, you will just head for another Condition of Emergency. So that has to be part of it. You had better change your operating basis because that operating basis led you into an Emergency.
3. Economize.
4. Prepare to deliver......"
All the promotion of OSA "safepointing" shite looks like they are heavily applying the "emergency formula". The condition of danger is the next lower condition, and if they must apply their conditions according to their beliefs they should probably apply danger however, that is scary and disrupting since it involves getting those who fuck up out of the way and taking the reins oneself - but how to do that, when you are overworked and understaffed. It's complicated because with some of the massive "Hill 10's" they are having, some of them would have to be assigned Danger or lower, and with DM reputedly being a micromanager, he is obsessively/compulsively applying Danger anyway, whatever other conditions he says he is applying or assigning, so it's a mess.
"..Step 2. Change your operating basis..." So for the front groups execs at the top, that must mean: "Forget Narconon, it's too enturbulating. Let's switch to colored T shirt photo ops".
There is also the aspect of handling bad PR by pulling your pants down and waving your stats all around. The colored T shirt chorus shows 'stats' by inference. "Look at how much good we do".
I couldn't be bothered looking properly at the full page NYer ads, but with the tweets and smear campaigns specifically, it seems there is a bit of the Liability formula, step
".....2. Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group one has been pretending to be part of despite personal danger.
Looks to me like Karin Pouw is applying liability there.
I think that applying Hubbard's conditions is going to put Karin Pouw more and more in the shitcan.
scientology has been in a condition of emergency since day 1.
scientology is constantly promoting, constantly PRing it is the fastest growing religion............
scientology has never been in a condition of normal or above.
For, if it was workable, there would be word of mouth, and lines around the block to get into a scientology "church" or "cathedral" :confused2:
Type4_PTS
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Re: Karin Pouw liability
Jon Atack:
If in 1950 each of those 273 Clears brought in one other person during the course of a year and the organization continued to grow at that pace (each member brought in one additional member per calender year) this would add up to 9 billion people brought in by 1975!
Just from each new member bringing in a new person once a year.
That doesn't seem as though it would be so difficult. People would notice when your IQ jumped 50 points and many of your illnesses vanished. It wouldn't be a hard sell.
scientology has been in a condition of emergency since day 1.
scientology is constantly promoting, constantly PRing it is the fastest growing religion............
scientology has never been in a condition of normal or above.
For, if it was workable, there would be word of mouth, and lines around the block to get into a scientology "church" or "cathedral" :confused2:
Jon Atack:
If in 1950 each of those 273 Clears brought in one other person during the course of a year and the organization continued to grow at that pace (each member brought in one additional member per calender year) this would add up to 9 billion people brought in by 1975!
Just from each new member bringing in a new person once a year.
That doesn't seem as though it would be so difficult. People would notice when your IQ jumped 50 points and many of your illnesses vanished. It wouldn't be a hard sell.
DoneDeal
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In other words that fucker has other fish to fry.
DoneDeal
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Re: Karin Pouw liability
That's perfect Gib. I've thought similar things for along time. May as well be drug addicts.
Like Harry said (sorta) "Man's got to know his reality".
scientology has been in a condition of emergency since day 1.
scientology is constantly promoting, constantly PRing it is the fastest growing religion............
scientology has never been in a condition of normal or above.
For, if it was workable, there would be word of mouth, and lines around the block to get into a scientology "church" or "cathedral" :confused2:
That's perfect Gib. I've thought similar things for along time. May as well be drug addicts.
Like Harry said (sorta) "Man's got to know his reality".
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