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Ron's Drug Use

Tell me our boy isn't ripping stoned in this picture
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They couldn't even get him sober long enough for a photo shoot
 

Thrak

Gold Meritorious Patron
Easy now! That's not just any drunken sailor. That's Elron Ray. The "being" who dared to put his own life on the line to carefully tape the path for all mankind to the state of total cashlessness. He'll make you free alright, free of all that annoying cash - and whatever drugs you got on ya.
 

Peter Soderqvist

Patron with Honors
Soderqvist1: I have found some interesting note on Ron’s drug use, on the Freezone Homesite!

Criminal Time Track: A History of High Crimes Against Scientology
1985: Miscavige and Jesse Prince are pals at this time and DM confides to Jesse that they did not want LRH appearing in court. DM tells Jesse there's some things about LRH you just don't know and you have got to grow up and know something, that LRH is mentally unstable. Also, Rick Aznaran was up at Creston once and he told Jesse that he could hear Ron screaming at thetans late at night when he was there. The servants were also aware of this. Ron was heavily medicated with drugs from Dr. Denk, like valium and tranquilizers. Rick opened the medicine drawer and was surprised to find every kind of drug imaginable. Jesse says that LRH was having Denk assist him with research. Denk provided any drug LRH wanted and LRH was being the guinea pig. Dennis Erlich claims to have met a guy who was also bringing cocaine, marijuana and LSD to LRH in Creston.

Note: If he's mentally unstable and drugged up, how could he legally sign a last minute will? Research, huh? Or being held against his will and made to look crazy with drugs? A STORY on page 285 in Technical Volume 1 comes to mind.
http://www.skeptictank.org/gs/crimtime.htm#OpenLetter

Soderqvist1: it is a known fact that L. Ron Hubbard endorsed Aleister Crowley’s book: “The book of the Law” and called it a fantastic piece of work, as mentioned in his PDC lectures, and I have found something in “the book of the law” which possibly can explain his use of drugs in his research!

The Book of the Law Chapter 2
Paragraph 22: I am the Snake that giveth Knowledge & Delight and bright glory, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs whereof I will tell my prophet, & be drunk thereof! Chapter 3: Paragraph 47: This book shall be translated into all tongues: but always with the original in the writing of the Beast; for in the chance shape of the letters and their position to one another: in these are mysteries that no Beast shall divine. Let him not seek to try: but one cometh after him, whence I say not, who shall discover the Key of it all.
Paragraph 48: Now this mystery of the letters is done, and I want to go on to the holier place.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm

A STORY ca. 1952 By L. Ron Hubbard
Once upon a time there was a man, or perhaps he was not a man, who slept for a very long time. When he laid himself down to rest, the world was not too terrible. People were happy and their actions were productive and the green hills had flowers upon them. When he awakened, however, things had changed. He stood outside his cave and looked at the world. Yes, somehow it had changed. The hills were ugly and brown. Near at hand two women were quarreling. Far away a red cloud rose and when he looked more closely he saw that it was a battle. And so he walked down through the fields and towns trying to find what had happened. Men glowered at him. Children did not play. And there was little food and the haggard faces of all showed that each staggered under some heavy burden of grief. And the man, or perhaps he was not a man, saw that the world had come into trying times. He wandered about, understanding that here he faced a black enchantment, thickly laid upon the souls of men. Perhaps some sorcerer had done it to men, perhaps men had done it to themselves. But it did not matter. The world had gone mad. Somebody must do something.

The man thought for many days. And then he made a golden ball and filled it with everything necessary to undo a black enchantment. It was a very pretty ball, on the end of an ivory stick. And it was very easy to use for one had but to hold it over the head of a human being and wish him well to break the thrall which held that being. And the man went forth and held it over the heads of dozens of people and did not tell them what it was and they suddenly smiled and became bright and the thrall was broken for them. And the man saw that this was good and so he showed many people how to use the golden ball and told them all that was necessary to break the black enchantment clear across the whole world. And some used it. But others said, "Isn't it pretty! " and began to play catch with it. And some said, "It isn't really gold." And some wanted to hide it for fear it would be stolen. And some said, "It's GOLD!" and bought knives and pistols with it and fought. And some said cunningly, "With this POWER I can rule Earth." And others simply ran about and said it wasn't really a ball and that the man had stolen it from others and they clutched their black enchantment about them and whispered that the man had done it in the first place and that he planned to kill them all. But the man paid little heed. He tried to form companies to make the golden ball available to many. But the people in the companies said, "It's mine!" 'It's power!" "It's gold!" and "The man will kill us all!" and so they fought amongst themselves and threw dust over the golden ball and tried to dent it.

And at last the man sat down in a desert place and sent his word about that anybody could use this ball that wanted it. And they sent officers and thieves and lawyers at him to say that nobody could use the ball. And they took the man's captain and said they would imprison him for saying the golden ball was owned by everybody. And they made the government put guards around the man in case anybody sent him money to help ship the golden ball to everyone. And the man looked at these people and not one of them who hated the golden ball had ever used it in any way but only thrown dust on it and tried to dent it and he looked at the sly people who went up and down the roads saying, "It is not really gold!" "The man really stole it," and then he looked and saw beyond these the haggard faces, the crippled children, the sorrowing women. And above all these he saw the red cloud of the battle. And the battle cloud grew taller. And it grew taller and taller as though it hung with fire up above an entire world.

And the man, sitting in the desert place, looked at the golden ball.

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder
http://www.freezone.org/LRH/a_story.htm
 

Mystic

Crusader
Po bassid. He seems to have missed out on many of the designer drugs. Ecstasy would have ripped him a new one.
 

Veda

Sponsor
So you're saying that Hubbard - aside from pain medication - cleaned up his act in 1973 at age 62 while in ill health.

Since the accounts of Hubbard's drug use are mostly from the early 1950s through the late 1960s, it doesn't change much.

Nice try though, hope it made you feel better. :)

Someone still needs to compile the accounts of Hubbard's regular alcohol consumption, and his use of various drugs, as described here on ESMB by old timers.

These can be added to the already substantial list of accounts, court's evidence, and Hubbard's own words revealing his private "thelemic" attitude towards drugs.
 

knn

Patron Meritorious
Someone still needs to compile the accounts of Hubbard's regular alcohol consumption
Drinking alcohol isn't even forbidden for Scientologists.

and his use of various drugs, as described here on ESMB by old timers.
There won't be final proof until an oldtimer states "I planted the seeds, brew the drug and injected it into Hubbard". And even then you can claim that the oldtimer is lying. There won't be any final proof.

These can be added to the already substantial list of accounts, court's evidence
Court evidence that Hubbard took drugs?

and Hubbard's own words revealing his private "thelemic" attitude towards drugs.
You mean after he started his Church or before?
 

Veda

Sponsor
Actually, I'm writing exactly and only what I wrote, neither more nor less.

Anything else you think I wrote that is different from the above would be a product of either your creative imagination or your possible a need for remedial English classes - probably both.

Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.

I love you too.:smoochy:
 

AOSHUKR6EW

Patron with Honors
He admitted "popping blues and pinks"? in a letter to Mary Sue which was later published - when he was on the Apollo - I think that is the only proof really?
 
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