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DartSmohen

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Dear old Ron had some really wierd ideas about what his staff should wear. The deescent downhill matched his growing paranoia, delusions and drug insanity.

The very first insignia we wore was in the Sea Project. Our "uniform" was a boiler suit.:screwy:

Our first few officers had a cap badge was an "O" with a "T" inside it.

When Hubbard set out from Gibraltar, back to the UK to collect the Royal Scotsman, he has his accompanying squad all wear "sailor boy" outfits, complete with "pork pie" hat. Some of those poor sods still cringe with embarrasment when they think about having to be dressed like that. Thank God no one they knew ever saw them passing by!!:omg:

The Sea Org badge was a star enclosed by two laurel branches. We wore naval type uniforms with black rank badges in order not to contravene the law about falsely wearing militiary or naval insignia (a point that seems to have been forgotten):melodramatic:

On the ship we wore (usually) light blue shirts and blue trousers. Rank was a peaked cap for officers and a yellow lanyard. For lower ranks it was a piece of brass toilet chain worn in a similar manner.

So far, so good. Nothing too contentious. nothing too outlandish.

In late 1968, the Class 8 course students were made to wear bright green boiler suits, open toed brown sandals and a rope noose around their necks.

At Edinburgh the AO crew wore (at least supposed to) white turtle jumpers, white trousers or skirts, white berets, white belts, silver buckles and silver painted boots.:omg:

When Bill Robertson took half the staff off to LA to set up the AOLA, his crew had to wear white overalls, white painted German helmets and white belts.:no:

Later on he brought in the idea of staff wearing military style decorative ribbons as symbols of missions etc. These, of course, closely resembled normal military decorations. It is illegal to falsely wear a military decoration unless you have been officially awarded it.

I remember seeing some of Hubbard's CMO teenage girls wearing more ribbons and medals than Idi Amin ever wore!:eyeroll:

Hubbard was really into some serious delusions and nuttiness with this stuff.
He was clearly quite PTS, bordering on type 3. What this sort of activity did was to call his mental state into question. Once you question that, you now have to question the content of what he wrote and lectured on.

A lot of what he wrote about has value. He was smart enough to draw on many sources for his materials (and then claimed copyright). the trouble was that the continuing drug and alcohol abuse finally took it's toll.

He went from a virtually omnipotent position in the early 1960's to a delusional, drugged fugitive hiding in North California when he finally died.

What does that say about his technology?
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
He went from a virtually omnipotent position in the early 1960's to a delusional, drugged fugitive hiding in North California when he finally died.

What does that say about his technology?

Hmm. Maybe that it 'works'; just not the way He claimed.

Zinj
 

The Oracle

Gold Meritorious Patron
Dear old Ron had some really wierd ideas about what his staff should wear. The deescent downhill matched his growing paranoia, delusions and drug insanity.

The very first insignia we wore was in the Sea Project. Our "uniform" was a boiler suit.:screwy:

Our first few officers had a cap badge was an "O" with a "T" inside it.

When Hubbard set out from Gibraltar, back to the UK to collect the Royal Scotsman, he has his accompanying squad all wear "sailor boy" outfits, complete with "pork pie" hat. Some of those poor sods still cringe with embarrasment when they think about having to be dressed like that. Thank God no one they knew ever saw them passing by!!:omg:

The Sea Org badge was a star enclosed by two laurel branches. We wore naval type uniforms with black rank badges in order not to contravene the law about falsely wearing militiary or naval insignia (a point that seems to have been forgotten):melodramatic:

On the ship we wore (usually) light blue shirts and blue trousers. Rank was a peaked cap for officers and a yellow lanyard. For lower ranks it was a piece of brass toilet chain worn in a similar manner.

So far, so good. Nothing too contentious. nothing too outlandish.

In late 1968, the Class 8 course students were made to wear bright green boiler suits, open toed brown sandals and a rope noose around their necks.

At Edinburgh the AO crew wore (at least supposed to) white turtle jumpers, white trousers or skirts, white berets, white belts, silver buckles and silver painted boots.:omg:

When Bill Robertson took half the staff off to LA to set up the AOLA, his crew had to wear white overalls, white painted German helmets and white belts.:no:

Later on he brought in the idea of staff wearing military style decorative ribbons as symbols of missions etc. These, of course, closely resembled normal military decorations. It is illegal to falsely wear a military decoration unless you have been officially awarded it.

I remember seeing some of Hubbard's CMO teenage girls wearing more ribbons and medals than Idi Amin ever wore!:eyeroll:

Hubbard was really into some serious delusions and nuttiness with this stuff.
He was clearly quite PTS, bordering on type 3. What this sort of activity did was to call his mental state into question. Once you question that, you now have to question the content of what he wrote and lectured on.

A lot of what he wrote about has value. He was smart enough to draw on many sources for his materials (and then claimed copyright). the trouble was that the continuing drug and alcohol abuse finally took it's toll.

He went from a virtually omnipotent position in the early 1960's to a delusional, drugged fugitive hiding in North California when he finally died.

What does that say about his technology?

He wasn't me, I wasn't him, and I wouldn't A=A everyone that read his books and got auditing with him.

The auditing worked great for me. So did the training relating to ethics and suppression and Integrity.

I don't even A=A all the buffet.

I think the uniforms are corny and the out pr causes millions in lost income annually.

I think the whole justice system he designed after he clearly noticed and stated that man could not be trusted with justice was a ser fac so we could all see for ourselves how right he was about that.

I don't think the managment tech he offerred up or the this whole Sea Org idea was a help to anyone.

People think when the psycometry magic pans out, all the rest is supposed to also. It's an A=A A=A.

"His technology" isn't even an A=A between branches.

Some of it was valid and workable for me.

Some of I don't bother to think with and can't relate to.

Gotta give ourselves credit for putting on those uniforms and giving the system the benefit of a doubt.

At least we were willing to find out.

T.O.
 

Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
My favorite uniform is Police. I wear it as a Halloween costume.

People don't get scared by witches, goblins and trolls, but they do shit themselves when they see a blue flashing light in the rear-vision mirror.
 

Little Bear Victor

Silver Meritorious Patron
... which reminds me that DM had a survey done of what uniform people respect the most and it was the black uniform of the LA police. They've got "ethics presence." As a result he made the uniform for COB's Office all black...

(Your useless tidbit of the hour.)
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
... which reminds me that DM had a survey done of what uniform people respect the most and it was the black uniform of the LA police. They've got "ethics presence." As a result he made the uniform for COB's Office all black...

(Your useless tidbit of the hour.)

Well, LAPD's is actually a very dark midnight blue, but, the 'Church' has adopted it for their LA security people too; except for the 'bike boys'. The line to 'impersonating a police officer' is invisible, except for the script on the badge itself.

Zinj
 

pomfritz

Patron with Honors
In one of the basic SO courses.they show examples of maybe 10 different types of uniforms, each designated by a letter. You have your everyday uni, warm weather one, with shorts, dress uni, boiler suit, cold weather, etc. In my time there you were lucky to get a fitting dress uniform and a few changes of your everyday one, that's it.

Was there ever a time when SO members got a full set of the different types of uniforms? I would be surprised if they did.
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
In one of the basic SO courses.they show examples of maybe 10 different types of uniforms, each designated by a letter. You have your everyday uni, warm weather one, with shorts, dress uni, boiler suit, cold weather, etc. In my time there you were lucky to get a fitting dress uniform and a few changes of your everyday one, that's it.

Was there ever a time when SO members got a full set of the different types of uniforms? I would be surprised if they did.

Sometime in 88-89 I think, my mother had been on a project to deign new uniforms.

After that, there was a huge evolution to get them out to everyone. The main dining area of Leb Hall (Now I think is ASHO Chapel - not sure) was full of trunks with uniform parts for everyone.

It had pants, skirts, shirts, shoes hats, coats, everything.
 

Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
88-89? I bet those are still being used. :yes:

I remember in '86 that the list went as high as Uniform J, which was "fancy" dress, say for advertising purposes. Plain civvies (so as not to scare off the natives) also had a letter designation but I don't remember it.
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
I remember in '86 that the list went as high as Uniform J, which was "fancy" dress, say for advertising purposes. Plain civvies (so as not to scare off the natives) also had a letter designation but I don't remember it.

Uniform K. Its called uniform K. "Upsat Civvies" (civilian clothes).

Worn at the HGB on the weekends so they don't look like they are working. Or something like that.
 

Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
U wuz luckee. Veree luckee. Free f...ing clothes. Wow.

Nick

Free? Free? All the people I knew in the SO had to buy their uniforms. That's why they always looked bedraggled--one uniform to last the whole week, and if you were lucky you got Saturday night off so you could wash it.
 

programmer_guy

True Ex-Scientologist
DartSmohen,

Some parts of the uniforms that you describe remind me of the art on the old cover jacket for the book "Scientology: 8-8008". Does this "ring a bell" for you too?

Also:
Didn't Hubbard mention, from time-to-time, the subject of "dramatization" of the "Whole Track"? (So, here he is doing the same thing.)
 

Royal Prince Xenu

Trust the Psi Corps.
Siler Space Boots for All!

Zinj

Is Siler a brand, or did you mean silver?

The most popular shoes that I remember from that time were Adidas "Romes". They were comparatively cheap and reasonably long-lived.

Long after Scientology, I almost cried when I went into a sports store to be told they had been discontinued! 20 years later, I still haven't found an appropriate substitute.
 

Zinjifar

Silver Meritorious Sponsor
Is Siler a brand, or did you mean silver?

The most popular shoes that I remember from that time were Adidas "Romes". They were comparatively cheap and reasonably long-lived.

Long after Scientology, I almost cried when I went into a sports store to be told they had been discontinued! 20 years later, I still haven't found an appropriate substitute.

all your whole track are belong edit

Nothing says Scientology like Whole Track Uniforms, whether silier space boots or silver :)

Zinj
 

DartSmohen

Silver Meritorious Patron
DartSmohen,

Some parts of the uniforms that you describe remind me of the art on the old cover jacket for the book "Scientology: 8-8008". Does this "ring a bell" for you too?

Also:
Didn't Hubbard mention, from time-to-time, the subject of "dramatization" of the "Whole Track"? (So, here he is doing the same thing.)

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Yes, that is exactly what he was seeking to copy. By the way, it was Richard Gorman who created these book images, based on instruction from Hubbard.

Hubbard had decided that the best way of restimming the public was by the use of evocative book covers, hence the volcano on the front of dianetics.

For me, the most potent book cover was the tree on Science of Survival. Richard had designed this one himself and submitted it to Hubbard. (so I understand ). Hubbard decided to go with it rather than the planned "space opera" one.

The "dramatization of whole track" was built around Hubbard's delusionary state. After all, he had been a Sci Fi writer.

The previous image of a breaded wise old man, with the by-line "Scientology is here to rescue you" had a negative impact.
 

DartSmohen

Silver Meritorious Patron
Is Siler a brand, or did you mean silver?

The most popular shoes that I remember from that time were Adidas "Romes". They were comparatively cheap and reasonably long-lived.

Long after Scientology, I almost cried when I went into a sports store to be told they had been discontinued! 20 years later, I still haven't found an appropriate substitute.

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Sorry, a typo error, it was late.

Our boots were slip-on Chelsea boots that were painted silver. James Fuller oversaw this activity. Our belts were, essentially, fashion accessory types, wide, white leatherette with a large round silver buckle.

The boots, for me. lasted about 3 hours. I went to the backstairs and kicked the heel off. Also, the white berets made excellent one-way frisbees.

Merril Mayo measured the ladies for waist and skirt length. James decided that they were all being rather vain about their measurements so he assed at least one or two inches to the waist and length measurements before he ordered them. Unfortunately Merril was accurate in her measurements. the women were NOT amused to have to wear these loose fitting "bags".
 
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