Sci Contradictions - Tell me Your Favorite!

[Anonycat]

There are so many - tell me your choice for most notable.

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We of the Church believe:

That all men of whatever race, color, or creed were created with equal rights;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;

That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;

That all men have inalienable rights to conceive, choose, assist or support their own organizations, churches and governments;

That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;

That all men have inalienable rights to the creation of their own kind;

That the souls of men have the rights of men;

That the study of the mind and the healing of mentally caused ills should not be alienated from religion or condoned in non-religious fields;

And that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside these rights, overtly or covertly.

And we of the Church believe:

That man is basically good;

That he is seeking to survive;

That his survival depends upon himself and upon his fellows and his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.

And we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid man:

To destroy his own kind;

To destroy the sanity of another;

To destroy or enslave another's soul;

To destroy or reduce the survival of one's companions or one's group.

And we of the Church believe that the spirit can be saved and that the spirit alone may save or heal the body.

 

[DCAnon]

Human rights Vs Human trafficking.

My favorite though?

Support freedom and freedom of speech Vs EVERYTHING THEY EVER DO EVER.

 

[Anonycat]

Human rights Vs Human trafficking.

My favorite though?

Support freedom and freedom of speech Vs EVERYTHING THEY EVER DO EVER.

LOL, indeed.

 

[Tim Skog]

That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;


except when you apply the policy of KSW #1 ("Keeping Scientology Working").

God forbid one should have or attempt to express an opinion that is critical of Hubbard or his cult and its beliefs and practices.

 

[Anonycat]

That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;


except when you apply the policy of KSW #1 ("Keeping Scientology Working").

God forbid one should have or attempt to express an opinion that is critical of Hubbard or his cult and its beliefs and practices.

So true.

 

[Div6]

Grade 0 Release - Ability to talk to anyone on any subject.

vs:

Disconnection.

 

[Wisened One]

You have to be OT to go OT

Spending money on scn makes the able more able (yeah, to be FLEECED and BANKRUPTED!).

 

[byte301]

Respect other religions.

(Unless those other religions are religions other then Scientology.)

 

[Wisened One]

'You can be other religions plus be a scn' THE BIGGEST contradiction in scn, EVER!

 

[Thrak]

The thing that always stuck in my mind was seeing these omnipotent "OTs" wearing glasses, smoking like chimneys and getting colds and flus more often and worse than my wogish self.

 

[degraded being]

Scientology sets you free

with a billion year contract
14 hour days
no days off
razor wire fences
armed guards
confiscation of passport
monitored communication

 

[byte301]

"Living is an art, master it.

Unless, of course, you're someone like Lisa McPherson or Shawn Lonsdale. If so you can just skip the living part.

 

[byte301]

The thing that always stuck in my mind was seeing these omnipotent "OTs" wearing glasses, smoking like chimneys and getting colds and flus more often and worse than my wogish self.

Ssshh. You aren't suppose to notice that little out-point.

Besides, they only need glasses to read with since they are exterior, they can quit smoking any time they want to...they just don't want to, and they didn't have a cold or the flu...their body thetans did.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Scientology sets you free

with a billion year contract
14 hour days
no days off
razor wire fences
armed guards
confiscation of passport
monitored communication

Also, if you happen to think the wrong thoughts this could lead to a trip to the Ethics Officer. And if you look at the wrong information that is critical of the CoS or LRH, ect, anything deemed to be "entheta" this too can get you a handling in Ethics.

But other than all this stuff above one IS totally free.
And if you don't like the way things are here you are of course free to leave at any time. (It's just going to take you some months to "route out" while you are doing hard labor, or you can just leave immediately and take a pass on your freedom for the rest of eternity).

The only time that scientology would really set someone free is when they run out of money and are not useful as a staff member.

 

[Winston Smith]

There are so many - tell me your choice for most notable.

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We of the Church believe:

That all men of whatever race, color, or creed were created with equal rights;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;

That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;

That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;

That all men have inalienable rights to conceive, choose, assist or support their own organizations, churches and governments;

That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;

That all men have inalienable rights to the creation of their own kind;

That the souls of men have the rights of men;

That the study of the mind and the healing of mentally caused ills should not be alienated from religion or condoned in non-religious fields;

And that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside these rights, overtly or covertly.

And we of the Church believe:

That man is basically good;

That he is seeking to survive;

That his survival depends upon himself and upon his fellows and his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.

And we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid man:

To destroy his own kind;

To destroy the sanity of another;

To destroy or enslave another's soul;

To destroy or reduce the survival of one's companions or one's group.

And we of the Church believe that the spirit can be saved and that the spirit alone may save or heal the body.

I am thinking plagiarism. Of the Bible and the United States Constitution. However, I guess both of those are "passe." LRH, the Turd, never uttered an orginial thought. And ofcourse the fucking "Church" as presently constituted ignores the above post, and the Constitution and the Bible.

 

[Blue Spirit]

"Fair Game" and "What Is Greatness"

The title is a major contradiction.

The most major Contradiction of All is Hubbard's two personalities.

One could be flowing overwheming affinity and reality which could as-is or
erase one's case extant in his space instantly and have amazing agreement
and Sanity.

The other was pure Case generated by severe Out-Ethics and powered by
major spiritual horsepower which in its worst manifestation destroyed beings
or attempted to, causing major distress, and ultimately destroyed his group by not having any Sane being left to takeover for LRH when he prematurely departed his body that he never gave any real care to.

This Omission of Power Change left the Dregs of humanity to take over
by default, one David Miscavage, who no sane person likes.

 

[Veda]

'What is Greatness?' and the 'Fair Game Law' are complementary parts of Scientology. There's no conflict. One is "overt" (for display), the other is covert (or behind the scenes). http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=83012&postcount=67

Like the 'Creed of the Church', written to accompany Scientology's use of the "religion angle" by incorporating as a "Church," the (for broad distribution to 'wogs') piece 'What is Greatness?' is not policy of any kind, and is purely for display purposes.

It's for display - much as the giant cross on the Blue Buildings is for display.

If there's any conflict, it's that Hubbard couldn't manage to write a PR piece about "love and forgiveness" without going on gleefully about one of his (perceived) enemies having been murdered. However, in the slick PR video, by Scientology, that part of 'What is Greatness?' has been omitted.

It's called smoothing off the rough edges.

 

[Anonycat]

The video is on YouTube of course, where they place all their propaganda.

It does go against the true actions of the cult, also of course. PR drivel.

 

[Veda]

The video is on YouTube of course, where they place all their propaganda.

It does go against the true actions of the cult, also of course. PR drivel.

Thanks for not posting the slick video itself. It's a bit much, and it still makes the vulnerable swoon. Scientology, an amoral personality cult, shamelessly exploits the goodness of others.

Peeking behind the PR and mental-healing curtain, the words of its founder tell a different story. These are words that we were never supposed to see.

L. Ron Hubbard, from 1938, shortly after having written the unpublished manuscript 'Excalibur':

"Living is a pretty grim joke, but a joke just the same. The entire function of man is to survive. Not for 'what' [some higher humanitarian ideal] but just to survive... I turned the thing up ['Survive!' as the basis for a philosophy and political system], so it's up to me to survive in a big way. Personal immortality is to be gained only through the printed word, barred note or painted canvas or hard granite. Foolishly perhaps, but determined nonetheless, I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all the books are destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned. Things which stand too consistently in my way make me nervous. It's a pretty big job. In a hundred years Roosevelt will have been forgotten - which gives some idea of the magnitude of my attempt. And all this boils and froths inside my head."

The overt/covert paradigm of Scientology, examined in more detail:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=19183&postcount=1

 

[ExVet]

Scientology asserting itself as a science of all sciences (without ever offering any formal scientific literature proving such). And when that failed, Scientology asserting itself as a religion which didn't need to prove that it had 100% positive results, yet still used the word "science" in its books, lectures and issues and still asserted it had 100% workability (as you would expect from an exact science).