Sci Contradictions - Tell me Your Favorite!

[smartone]

Make a donation now and you will pull it in from somewhere else. I never did.

 

[wiseman_of_the_watchtower]

While trying to help an SP contact a relative, we made a discovery:

The "good roads good weather" method is the most effective, even if it is used in reverse.

If an "SP" wants to get a Scn to come to his/her senses, the procedure would start there, then lead to a 'handling' of the relative.

Ironic, that the disconnection is ordered by OSA/HCO regardless of which way this is applied...

-WMWT

 

[Rmack]

I remember one of my finest hours when I was in the S.laves O.rg when I pointed out a huge contradiction in logic;

I was told that I couldn't have libs (liberty; a day off) because my stats where down (statistic; number of exams given). The thing was, I had been posted as 'The Examiner' right out of the EPF (Estate Project Force; basically S.O. boot camp). Well, I think I expedited for a few days, or something, but the point is, I had very little tech training and virtually no auditing.

I was told that I'm responsible for my stat, however I couldn't solicit anyone for an exam even if I had a reason. As a matter of fact I wasn't to speak to anyone coming around for an exam, except to thank them, and tell them their needle was floating.

I was told by my senior I should just 'make it go right' and help get the org's stats up. I pointed out that If I was already so 'OT' that I could make something like that happen from sitting in a closet without talking, with very little training or auditing, why the fuck would I need Scientology in the first place?

She responded with some lame thought-stopping concept like 'stop nattering' or, 'no case on post'. Yeah, right.

The truth was; they just applied this narrow-minded stupid policy to everyone, whether it made since or not, because Laffy 'the Lips' Hubbard could never be wrong about anything!

I knew it was bullshit then, I just hung around because I thought they had some powerful secret info about how to operate outside your body. Turns out they don't. Less than the crudest of occult traditions out there.

 

[TalleyWhacker]

How's that one?

Chilling is what it is.

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Pardon me ... face ripped = beaten up?

Verbally abused beyond belief, about the time of the introduction of the SRA (Severe Reality Adjustment)--let's just fuck up the Auditor's head and then expect him to get good WDAH stats.

A "face ripping" would usually be administered "face to face", and the "ripper" would be so far into your personal space that their normal speech was in danger tearing of your face with their teeth.

Only one person ever tried it on me, and by good fortune I had a pack of extremely strong peppermints--I just shoved one in his open gob and walked away, "Have you tried brushing your teeth lately?"

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

I remember one of my finest hours when I was in the S.laves O.rg when I pointed out a huge contradiction in logic;

I was told that I couldn't have libs (liberty; a day off) because my stats where down (statistic; number of exams given). The thing was, I had been posted as 'The Examiner' right out of the EPF (Estate Project Force; basically S.O. boot camp). Well, I think I expedited for a few days, or something, but the point is, I had very little tech training and virtually no auditing.

I was told that I'm responsible for my stat, however I couldn't solicit anyone for an exam even if I had a reason. As a matter of fact I wasn't to speak to anyone coming around for an exam, except to thank them, and tell them their needle was floating.

I was told by my senior I should just 'make it go right' and help get the org's stats up. I pointed out that If I was already so 'OT' that I could make something like that happen from sitting in a closet without talking, with very little training or auditing, why the fuck would I need Scientology in the first place?

She responded with some lame thought-stopping concept like 'stop nattering' or, 'no case on post'. Yeah, right.

The truth was; they just applied this narrow-minded stupid policy to everyone, whether it made since or not, because Laffy 'the Lips' Hubbard could never be wrong about anything!

I knew it was bullshit then, I just hung around because I thought they had some powerful secret info about how to operate outside your body. Turns out they don't. Less than the crudest of occult traditions out there.

Assuming you started the Post of "Examiner" with a Zero Stat, then anything above "one" would have been a screaming affluence.

I was amazed at the sorts of Stats that people were "personally" responsible for. One I tripped over in my travels was "mail in"--this is an org stat not a personal one. It is always going to crash to zero on Christmas Day and Good Friday. How can one person be held accountable for this?

What about all those people doing call-in, when the phone numbers they have are so far out of date? How can you accurately statisticize their "productivity"?

No durgs, painkillers, anything. Yet Hubbard was pouring them down his throat like candy.

 

[AngeloV]

Some more

1. No Case On Post: So if I have the free will to turn off my 'case' when I'm working, then I have the free will to turn it off whenever I want, ergo I don't need auditing
2. Upstats are rewarded: Except when you join the EPF and you work your butt off only to find out that it's in a lower condition that you had nothing to do with so you get 1/2 of half-pay which amounts to $4 which they can shove up their collective a$$
3. Cognitions are good: Except when you cognite that there are discrepencies or conflicts between policies or HCOBs, then you have an MU.
4. Drugs are bad: Except nicotine and caffeine. You can smoke until you lungs turn black and you don't need to 'purge' them in the purif.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

I got my face ripped off, in div6. I was appaulled not just for myself but thought it the most disgusting out PR and I had to smile and push the shit out of my head so that I could face the public, who were watching, pretending they wernt. Luckilly all the public left. WDC had just ordered that every single person who came in the org had to buy something. The SRA was supposed to make it possible.

The guy who did it now has a senior job at flag, he's got the right attitude, I was obviously just a week wristed, namby pamby, panting wasted dilletant. I am happy about that.

 

[AngeloV]

I got my face ripped off, in div6. I was appaulled not just for myself but thought it the most disgusting out PR and I had to smile and push the shit out of my head so that I could face the public, who were watching, pretending they wernt. Luckilly all the public left. WDC had just ordered that every single person who came in the org had to buy something. The SRA was supposed to make it possible.

The guy who did it now has a senior job at flag, he's got the right attitude, I was obviously just a week wristed, namby pamby, panting wasted dilletant. I am happy about that.

That's panty-waisted but I like 'panting wasted' much better. You were probably panting from running your ass off trying to do your job.

Just kidding.

 

[La La Lou Lou]

wasted from lack of sleep, and panting thinking it would be a billion years before I could get my leg over

 

[xenusdad]

Knowing How To Know

Of the many descriptions of $cientology, for me the most hilarious and contradictory is "knowing how to know", like, er, knowing how to know what, exactly?

"Ah," said she, with a knowing look, "Knowing how to know!"

"Yes," I spluttered, "But knowing how to know what?"

Knowing how to know that you are being ripped off by a no-good lying long-dead conman.

Also, "It's an applied religious philosophy."

Did you ever try to apply it? It doesn't fucking work! Narconon = FAIL, Criminon = FAIL, WTH Campaign = FAIL, auditing = FAIL, conditions = SUPERFAIL, training = FAIL, admin tech = FAIL, the Tech = FAIL, Clear = FAIL, OT = FAIL, the list is almost endless...

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

Of the many descriptions of $cientology, for me the most hilarious and contradictory is "knowing how to know", like, er, knowing how to know what, exactly?

"Ah," said she, with a knowing look, "Knowing how to know!"

"Yes," I spluttered, "But knowing how to know what?"

Knowing how to know that you are being ripped off by a no-good lying long-dead conman.

Also, "It's an applied religious philosophy."

Did you ever try to apply it? It doesn't fucking work! Narconon = FAIL, Criminon = FAIL, WTH Campaign = FAIL, auditing = FAIL, conditions = SUPERFAIL, training = FAIL, admin tech = FAIL, the Tech = FAIL, Clear = FAIL, OT = FAIL, the list is almost endless...

Yeah, like "Knowing that YOU ARE"--"are what?"

It was only when I read materials that Hubbard probably plagiarised that I could understand the sentences "I AM" and "YOU ARE" in the fullest spiritual sense.

As for application, again, as long as the money entity is getting in the way, some of the "applied @$$ philosophy" can actually be useful. Other people on this board will also attest to this. Some of it is absolute rubbish, other bits are useful in certain circumstances.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Of the many descriptions of $cientology, for me the most hilarious and contradictory is "knowing how to know", like, er, knowing how to know what, exactly?

"Ah," said she, with a knowing look, "Knowing how to know!"

"Yes," I spluttered, "But knowing how to know what?"

Knowing how to know that you are being ripped off by a no-good lying long-dead conman.

Also, "It's an applied religious philosophy."

Did you ever try to apply it? It doesn't fucking work! Narconon = FAIL, Criminon = FAIL, WTH Campaign = FAIL, auditing = FAIL, conditions = SUPERFAIL, training = FAIL, admin tech = FAIL, the Tech = FAIL, Clear = FAIL, OT = FAIL, the list is almost endless...

The philosophy does have aspects that are applicable- to an extent, to varying degrees (certainly not as advertised, however) . The cult- not so much.

 

[AlwaysInAwe]

Claire...just want you to kow you've got fans

Was going to say "aplenty", but realized I may not be the norm.

Anyhow, I like how you don't cave but instead just be yerself (not that I agree, but UR definitely a woman to emulate (even guys) re: strength)...

Hmmmm...puts me mind of "V"...whoever he or she might be...(and quite sexy either way, might I add).

 

[Panda Termint]

I like her style too!

 

[Illegal Alien]

"Money is a flow you have to spend money to be able to receive money".
If you do not spend you create a stuck flow so you can not receive money.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Was going to say "aplenty", but realized I may not be the norm.

Anyhow, I like how you don't cave but instead just be yerself (not that I agree, but UR definitely a woman to emulate (even guys) re: strength)...

Hmmmm...puts me mind of "V"...whoever he or she might be...(and quite sexy either way, might I add).

Oh, thanks!

A good friend of mine (whom I met on a.r.s., by the way) said "you didn't cave to the cult, why would you cave to anyone else?"

Very few of my IRL friends, family and acquaintances have seen what I will do when tested/confronted. The critic's scene has been a blessing and a challenge for me. I wouldn't trade any of it in- not one iota of any experience. And I've made so many friends! Sometimes I'm privileged enough to actually meet or talk to them on the phone, which is awesome.

At this point, now that I'm grooved into my new job and have vacation accruals, I hope there might be another ESMB get together- since now I could probably attend. I'm going to the FZ one next fall so I can meet some of my friends there. I'd like to meet even more people, though.

 

[Voltaire's Child]

I like her style too!

I like your posts a lot, for sure. God, peeps, we've totally GOT to all meet up sometime...

 

[Type4_PTS]

God, peeps, we've totally GOT to all meet up sometime...

How about in May, 2010, in Boston!

 

[Voltaire's Child]

Oooh!! Fun to be back in the NE again! I could consider that and hope to be there.