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Link: http://www.reddit.com/r/tellusofyou..._a_scientologist_but_wasnt_raised_in_it_amaa/
A Scientologist is doing an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit right now. Reddit users can ask anything. wd40isthebest is the Scientologist btw.
What the fuck was Scientology thinking? Doing a live Interview on Reddit, and let users ask anything? When the Xenu questions started coming, he was G-O-N-E!
Q:What are your core beliefs regarding God, after life, spirituality, praying, etc.
A: God and prayer are separate things, not really a part of Scientology, in my opinion. A lot of Scientologists that I know are Jewish and Christian as well as Scientologists, so they adhere to their respective faiths in that regard. As far as spirituality and the afterlife, I believe in past lives, and that the true self is immortal. In the book Fundamentals of Thought, LRH talks about the 3 parts of man, and how this relates to spirituality.
Q: belief =/= fact. i just did some googling and the #1 definition of a religion is "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods."you've read lrh's writings, you must know about thetans -- do you not believe in them? spiritually, you don't believe in scientology's account of the universe?
A: "Thetan" is just a fancy name for you. Its what you are, its the basic personality of a person. How can I not believe in me? I don't think that's possible, to be honest. I think you believe in you as well. Who else typed your comment?
I only believe in what I observe to be true. If I cannot experience it for myself, then I can never say for certain if it is true. I highly recommend this way of thinking, I think it is very logical.
Q: what is the structure of the church?
A: An auditor is defined most basically as "one who listens". Auditors are those who deliver Scientology services to parishioners. The auditor and the parishioner work together to help the parishioner and improve his life. This is the basic structure, in my opinion.
Q: How much, if any, research did you do into Scientology before trying it out? Have any family members or friends been uncomfortable with your association with the group?
A: I was actually really nervous about it at first, as I had heard some negative things. I did tons of research on the internet, but I found only opinions and subjective stories with heavy bias, nothing really useful. Anyone proficient in research knows that the most valuable documents are primary sources, those written at the time period by someone who was actually there. So, I actually ordered all of the basic books of Scientology off of amazon, and got to reading. I had read 11 out of the 18 basic books before I ever set foot in a Scientology church. The claims that this guy, L. Ron Hubbard, was making I thought were absolutely incredible. Like "in - credible", as in not likely to be true. But I said to myself, well, I started this journey looking for something, I may as well finish it. So I decided I had to experience some of this stuff for myself. I decided to walk into my local organization and try some of their stuff. And, what do you know, I found that the stuff actually works. Some of my family members were a little apprehensive about my being involved Scientology, but once I was able to explain what exactly it is and how it helps people, everything was fine and they understood. The principles in Scientology are actually very agreeable to most people. The problems start when people stop looking at things for themselves and trust others to do the looking for them.
Q: You said you wanted to answer people's questions. You lied. You didn't answer any of his questions. There is no way bonebride can investigate his questions if you won't answer them. No matter what investigation he makes, he can't tell if you believe in Xenu unless you tell him.
A: bye bye
Q: well how are people supposed to get any proper personal investigation done with the amount of misinformation and propaganda scientology perpetuates (even here, in this misguided AMA)?
i really recommend you read Wright's book, or really even the controversies page on the Scientology wikipedia, and I hope you withdraw now before your involvement becomes too deep.
A: bye bye
Q: What are your opinions on Scientology's "pay to progress" model of spiritual evolution?
A: I couldn't agree with it more. How else would it be done? By tithing? I don't think so. Its like when I was in martial arts. You pay for the training you are getting in the martial arts, and as you get better and better your belt color increases. You keep paying for martial arts training, and you keep getting better and you become a better and better fighter. The Scientology system is just like that. It is the most fair way, to both the organization and the parishioner.
Q: Is Xenu part of the advanced teaching of Scientology?
A: I have honestly never seen anything about Xenu or any alien stuff. Believe me, I would tell you if I had. And I have read A LOT of LRH's stuff. I heard that story before I did my investigation into the Church, and though I haven't read EVERY SINGLE word written by him, I feel that I have read enough to be certain that that is not what Scientology is about. At all.
Q: Church's 'scripture' about Xenu and the history of the Thetan has historically been reserved for OT 3 and up. You haven't been told yet and they are very eager to keep that stuff hush-hush because it'd dry up the money supply.
"The story of Xenu is covered in OT III, part of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology" doctrines taught only to advanced members who have undergone many hours of auditing and reached the state of Clear followed by Operating Thetan levels 1 and 2." from Xenu's wikipedia page. This particular copy and paste was sourced twice. LRH wrote it himself.
A: No reply, and left the room...
A Scientologist is doing an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit right now. Reddit users can ask anything. wd40isthebest is the Scientologist btw.
What the fuck was Scientology thinking? Doing a live Interview on Reddit, and let users ask anything? When the Xenu questions started coming, he was G-O-N-E!
Q:What are your core beliefs regarding God, after life, spirituality, praying, etc.
A: God and prayer are separate things, not really a part of Scientology, in my opinion. A lot of Scientologists that I know are Jewish and Christian as well as Scientologists, so they adhere to their respective faiths in that regard. As far as spirituality and the afterlife, I believe in past lives, and that the true self is immortal. In the book Fundamentals of Thought, LRH talks about the 3 parts of man, and how this relates to spirituality.
Q: belief =/= fact. i just did some googling and the #1 definition of a religion is "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods."you've read lrh's writings, you must know about thetans -- do you not believe in them? spiritually, you don't believe in scientology's account of the universe?
A: "Thetan" is just a fancy name for you. Its what you are, its the basic personality of a person. How can I not believe in me? I don't think that's possible, to be honest. I think you believe in you as well. Who else typed your comment?
I only believe in what I observe to be true. If I cannot experience it for myself, then I can never say for certain if it is true. I highly recommend this way of thinking, I think it is very logical.
Q: what is the structure of the church?
A: An auditor is defined most basically as "one who listens". Auditors are those who deliver Scientology services to parishioners. The auditor and the parishioner work together to help the parishioner and improve his life. This is the basic structure, in my opinion.
Q: How much, if any, research did you do into Scientology before trying it out? Have any family members or friends been uncomfortable with your association with the group?
A: I was actually really nervous about it at first, as I had heard some negative things. I did tons of research on the internet, but I found only opinions and subjective stories with heavy bias, nothing really useful. Anyone proficient in research knows that the most valuable documents are primary sources, those written at the time period by someone who was actually there. So, I actually ordered all of the basic books of Scientology off of amazon, and got to reading. I had read 11 out of the 18 basic books before I ever set foot in a Scientology church. The claims that this guy, L. Ron Hubbard, was making I thought were absolutely incredible. Like "in - credible", as in not likely to be true. But I said to myself, well, I started this journey looking for something, I may as well finish it. So I decided I had to experience some of this stuff for myself. I decided to walk into my local organization and try some of their stuff. And, what do you know, I found that the stuff actually works. Some of my family members were a little apprehensive about my being involved Scientology, but once I was able to explain what exactly it is and how it helps people, everything was fine and they understood. The principles in Scientology are actually very agreeable to most people. The problems start when people stop looking at things for themselves and trust others to do the looking for them.
Q: You said you wanted to answer people's questions. You lied. You didn't answer any of his questions. There is no way bonebride can investigate his questions if you won't answer them. No matter what investigation he makes, he can't tell if you believe in Xenu unless you tell him.
A: bye bye
Q: well how are people supposed to get any proper personal investigation done with the amount of misinformation and propaganda scientology perpetuates (even here, in this misguided AMA)?
i really recommend you read Wright's book, or really even the controversies page on the Scientology wikipedia, and I hope you withdraw now before your involvement becomes too deep.
A: bye bye
Q: What are your opinions on Scientology's "pay to progress" model of spiritual evolution?
A: I couldn't agree with it more. How else would it be done? By tithing? I don't think so. Its like when I was in martial arts. You pay for the training you are getting in the martial arts, and as you get better and better your belt color increases. You keep paying for martial arts training, and you keep getting better and you become a better and better fighter. The Scientology system is just like that. It is the most fair way, to both the organization and the parishioner.
Q: Is Xenu part of the advanced teaching of Scientology?
A: I have honestly never seen anything about Xenu or any alien stuff. Believe me, I would tell you if I had. And I have read A LOT of LRH's stuff. I heard that story before I did my investigation into the Church, and though I haven't read EVERY SINGLE word written by him, I feel that I have read enough to be certain that that is not what Scientology is about. At all.
Q: Church's 'scripture' about Xenu and the history of the Thetan has historically been reserved for OT 3 and up. You haven't been told yet and they are very eager to keep that stuff hush-hush because it'd dry up the money supply.
"The story of Xenu is covered in OT III, part of Scientology's secret "Advanced Technology" doctrines taught only to advanced members who have undergone many hours of auditing and reached the state of Clear followed by Operating Thetan levels 1 and 2." from Xenu's wikipedia page. This particular copy and paste was sourced twice. LRH wrote it himself.
A: No reply, and left the room...