Scientology & Denial

[pollywannacracker]

PWC, no doubt! Peer pressure and the urges to "conform" are NO SMALL aspect of ANY group experience. They are, of course, incredibly over-exaggerated in the world of Scientology where "agreement" is such a KEY component of the experience. The force exerted to "agree" is tremendous in Scn, simply by the way the indoctrination is designed.

Peer pressure is something everyone experiences at some time or another in their lives.

I used to think that I was above the most inane varieties of peer pressure. Didn't give in during my school career and focused on my needs rather than the needs of my associated group of peers.

However, in Scn, the gradient of peer pressure and group think surpassed everything I was ever exposed to.

Especially when working for a Scn. For the most part, I was able to expunge some of the trappings of Scn peer pressure, but what a wild ride!

So now I am back to where I was and much happier not having to ack the greatness of someone who was no better and probably much worse than the mainstream population. :wink2:

-PWC

 

[Gadfly]

However, in Scn, the gradient of peer pressure and group think surpassed everything I was ever exposed to.

-PWC

You got that right!

In Scientology, Hubbard took it to never-before-realized NEW heights!

 

[NeXTep]

Great thread Gadfly.

You're right Gadfly, in Scientology denial has been brought to new heights.

The discrepancy between the promised and the actual results is so immense that it can only be bridged with a huge amount of denial. Thus one can say without any doubt that the average Scientologist is actually in worse case shape than a "wog" because he accumulates much more denial than a non-Scientologist.

One should also not forget that positive postulates are the seeds of denial!

Positive postulates or positive thinking implies that you deny the negative, which sooner or later is going hit you big time.

Ever want to know what you're in denial about, well listen to your peers. They will repeat it over and over to you without you ever asking.

In any case then you know what you have to be working on to improve your condition in life.

 

[Dulloldfart]

I remember a time as a PC at the AO ( on one of my OT levels ) I heard the DOP and one of the auditors - both were OTs - having a screaming "match" with each other in the admin room of the HGC. Everybody in the area could hear them but pretended they didn't.

Sounds like Dave Flood and Ivis Bolger in the NOTs Div at Saint Hill.

Paul

 

[Lurker5]

Gadfly

I always like you.

Lurker5, you are my current discussion board fantasy dream girl!!! :confused2:

I am hoping that I don't piss off any of my "other secret admirers" by that statement.

 

[pollywannacracker]

You got that right!

In Scientology, Hubbard took it to never-before-realized NEW heights!

Ain't that the truth! :wink2:

-PWC

 

[Gadfly]

 

[Div6]

Denial is now re-defined as "being responsible" in the Miscavige universe:

"The nonrecognition and denial of the right of intervention between oneself and any being, idea, matter, energy, space, time or form, and the assumption of full right of determination over it..."

Insanity is now required of Scngsts.

Just look at Ax's video.

Or mark hannah

or greg layton.

 

[Gadfly]

Denial is now re-defined as "being responsible" in the Miscavige universe:

"The nonrecognition and denial of the right of intervention between oneself and any being, idea, matter, energy, space, time or form, and the assumption of full right of determination over it..."

Insanity is now required of Scngsts.

Just look at Ax's video.

Or mark hannah

or greg layton.

I am pretty sure that the policy this quote came from came out BEFORE Hubbard disappeared from the scene. It might be well-applied under DM's watch, BUT it was Hubby Dub the Tubby Flub who WROTE the damned thing!

I might be wrong on the time track here, but I do have the issue and I could dig it out if needed. Policy title and date anyone? I recall that when it first came out, EVERYBODY on staff had to M9 and clay demo the concept. That seems to have been on the late 1970s, or 1980. :confused2:

It may have been released as an HCO PL, AND as an HCO B.

 

[Div6]

I am pretty sure that the policy this quote came from came out BEFORE Hubbard disappeared from the scene. It might be well-applied under DM's watch, BUT it was Hubby Dub the Tubby Flub who WROTE the damned thing!

I might be wrong on the time track here, but I do have the issue and I could dig it out if needed. Policy title and date anyone? I recall that when it first came out, EVERYBODY on staff had to M9 and clay demo the concept. That seems to have been on the late 1970s, or 1980. :confused2:

It may have been released as an HCO PL, AND as an HCO B.

My recollection was the Pro Tr's evolution that included Clay Table Processing, which was 89? 90? Yes, it has been verified as LRH by someone that was in AVC and RComps at the time.

 

[Gadfly]

My recollection was the Pro Tr's evolution that included Clay Table Processing, which was 89? 90? Yes, it has been verified as LRH by someone that was in AVC and RComps at the time.

It was WAY before that. I was off staff after mid 1980s, and I had seen it well before that. It had no specific relation to Pro TRs.