Scientology Expose ***Religious Visa's from UK to US Fraud***

Moomin

Patron
I recently sent an e-mail to the US Embassy (London) and the US and also Border Control on each side regarding information I have from experience regarding church members applications for an R1 (Religious Worker) Visa for UK citizens going to the States.

I have also written to Nathan Baca, KESQ, as well. Here goes:

I must bring to your attention the situation regarding R1
(Religious Worker) visa applications of members of the Church of
Scientology based in the UK who have to travel to Clearwater,
Florida, U.S. for training at the Flag Land Base. I'm writing from
personal experience.

Staff trainees are told to tell the staff at the US Embassy in
London, that they are attending 'religious seminars' as part of
their training as an 'apprentice minister' for the duration of about a year, and they are given
documents from different departments within their own church and
the upper exec strata to present to the embassy officials. They are
also drilled on what to say in a mock interview.

I was one of these people, I was basically told to lie to the
embassy and was to avoid saying that I was going to the US to
study, which was in fact the truth. New staff members who have
been chosen to train in Florida are told that they will get a
longer visa, even be lucky to get one at all, if they say what I
mentioned above and NOT say the words 'training', 'study' or 'work'.

The plain truth is that they go to Clearwater to train to work on a
post within the church, often passed off as 'pastoral counseling'
to the embassy.

There is a training area within Flag called the Hubbard College of Improvement where most of the studying and training is done and
they are not officially a minister until most of the way through
their training, Level/Class IV Auditor, then they get ordained, as I did.
They are in no way a minister before they arrive in the US and in
no way a religious worker. They, as I was, are students, plain and
simple who study, train, work and live for periods of some years.

I was very nervous that I had to lie to embassy officials in order
to get a visa. I was not attending any religious seminars, none
whatsoever!

I am no longer a member of the church.

Yours faithfully,

John
England


The above is true.
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
I recently sent an e-mail to the US Embassy (London) and the US and also Border Control on each side regarding information I have from experience regarding church members applications for an R1 (Religious Worker) Visa for UK citizens going to the States.

I have also written to Nathan Baca, KESQ, as well. Here goes:

I must bring to your attention the situation regarding R1
(Religious Worker) visa applications of members of the Church of
Scientology based in the UK who have to travel to Clearwater,
Florida, U.S. for training at the Flag Land Base. I'm writing from
personal experience.

Staff trainees are told to tell the staff at the US Embassy in
London, that they are attending 'religious seminars' as part of
their training as an 'apprentice minister' for the duration of about a year, and they are given
documents from different departments within their own church and
the upper exec strata to present to the embassy officials. They are
also drilled on what to say in a mock interview.

I was one of these people, I was basically told to lie to the
embassy and was to avoid saying that I was going to the US to
study, which was in fact the truth. New staff members who have
been chosen to train in Florida are told that they will get a
longer visa, even be lucky to get one at all, if they say what I
mentioned above and NOT say the words 'training', 'study' or 'work'.

The plain truth is that they go to Clearwater to train to work on a
post within the church, often passed off as 'pastoral counseling'
to the embassy.

There is a training area within Flag called the Hubbard College of Improvement where most of the studying and training is done and
they are not officially a minister until most of the way through
their training, Level/Class IV Auditor, then they get ordained, as I did.
They are in no way a minister before they arrive in the US and in
no way a religious worker. They, as I was, are students, plain and
simple who study, train, work and live for periods of some years.

I was very nervous that I had to lie to embassy officials in order
to get a visa. I was not attending any religious seminars, none
whatsoever!

I am no longer a member of the church.

Yours faithfully,

John
England


The above is true.

Good for you! What a scam, heh?! That's a terrible position to be put in. I bet you felt better getting that off your chest.

FYI, not all R-1 applictions are for the purpose you and other trainees came to the US for In fact, questionable applications are made with the intent of bringing foreign workers over to stay and work at Flag, PAC and Int.

Those applications, of which many were denied, were then appealed and a good bunch of them have been unearthed by poster OTBT from the federal website. Many show a consistent pattern of trying to make the work history of the applicant look better than it is to get the OK. The files are an eye opener!

One can view the appeal files here:

http://www.exposescientology.com/visaresearch.html

http://www.exposescientology.com/humantrafficking.html

So it is not just trainees coming over that have been put in this position of deceit, but also Sea Org recruits or members transferring to the US from overseas to work.

I am glad you have spoken up and do hope others will do so as well. Best wishes to you, John!

Mary McConnell
 

Wisened One

Crusader
:thumbsup:

I recently sent an e-mail to the US Embassy (London) and the US and also Border Control on each side regarding information I have from experience regarding church members applications for an R1 (Religious Worker) Visa for UK citizens going to the States.

I have also written to Nathan Baca, KESQ, as well. Here goes:

I must bring to your attention the situation regarding R1
(Religious Worker) visa applications of members of the Church of
Scientology based in the UK who have to travel to Clearwater,
Florida, U.S. for training at the Flag Land Base. I'm writing from
personal experience.

Staff trainees are told to tell the staff at the US Embassy in
London, that they are attending 'religious seminars' as part of
their training as an 'apprentice minister' for the duration of about a year, and they are given
documents from different departments within their own church and
the upper exec strata to present to the embassy officials. They are
also drilled on what to say in a mock interview.

I was one of these people, I was basically told to lie to the
embassy and was to avoid saying that I was going to the US to
study, which was in fact the truth. New staff members who have
been chosen to train in Florida are told that they will get a
longer visa, even be lucky to get one at all, if they say what I
mentioned above and NOT say the words 'training', 'study' or 'work'.

The plain truth is that they go to Clearwater to train to work on a
post within the church, often passed off as 'pastoral counseling'
to the embassy.

There is a training area within Flag called the Hubbard College of Improvement where most of the studying and training is done and
they are not officially a minister until most of the way through
their training, Level/Class IV Auditor, then they get ordained, as I did.
They are in no way a minister before they arrive in the US and in
no way a religious worker. They, as I was, are students, plain and
simple who study, train, work and live for periods of some years.

I was very nervous that I had to lie to embassy officials in order
to get a visa. I was not attending any religious seminars, none
whatsoever!

I am no longer a member of the church.

Yours faithfully,

John
England


The above is true.
 

Telepathetic

Gold Meritorious Patron
Great job Moomin:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Maybe you can additionally include what AnonMary posted.

I also want to welcome you if I haven't already:D

TP
 

Nurse Pinch

Patron with Honors
Staff trainees are told to tell the staff at the US Embassy in
London, that they are attending 'religious seminars' as part of
their training as an 'apprentice minister' for the duration of about a year, and they are given
documents from different departments within their own church and
the upper exec strata to present to the embassy officials. They are
also drilled on what to say in a mock interview.


Are staff that get sent for Admin training told to lie in the same way? They are in no way training to become 'ministers'. They are usually in training for posts such as 'Executive Director' or 'Deputy Executive Director for Delivery and Exchange'- or other deeply religious titles like 'Director of Income'.

Also, if their org cannot pay for their room and board, they are put on something called 'work study'. Is that kind of activity covered by the R1 visa?

Pinchy.
 

OTBT

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