Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin?

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Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin?

"PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!"

Mike Rinder: Berndt Mottl Pitches Super Power
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/berndt-mottl-pitches-super-power/

As always, please go to Mike's blog for his analysis.

LEAKED E-MAIL:
From: Berndt Mottl <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 7:40 PM
Subject: IF THERE EVER WAS A GOD…

Hello!

Long time no talk!
I just completed SUPER POWER!!!

And I decided to get 100 people onto Super Power and you have been selected as one of them!!!
Rejoice!!!

And here is why:

You might have seen success stories about Super Power. Most of them are “beyond words” and more than ever it is now clear: The English language has literally no vocabulary to describe what has happened with the advent of this Rundown (and Cause Resurgence Rundown which is similarly miraculous per reports and which I will do next).

We have not been in comm enough for me to know where you are at with your Bridge right now… but we have been in comm enough for me to know that you would not only LOVE this Rundwon, it would not only BLOW YOU AWAY, it will (notice I said WILL not WOULD?) give you the biggest Thetan rocket booster you ever got NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE ON THE BRIDGE – EVEN OTVIII’S PROCLAIM SUPERLATIVES LIKE NEVER BEFORE ABOUT SUPER POWER

Here are a few highlights what Super Power did for me:
1) It made clear to me what Scientology actually IS, what it can DO and HOW it can do it.
2) It showed me why in the past we sometimes had some losses in terms of people or own understanding and grasping of the full magnitude of what LRH actually says when he talks about “Clearing the Planet” and how it can actually be DONE.
3) It showed me exactly how I as a spiritual being I am contributing and creating down to the atomic level every split second of this universe, my life and the future.
4) It showed me how there is NOTHING that happens to me which I have not either created myself or agreed to be the effect of from others – and, more importantly, it showed me how I can CAUSE my ideal and aesthetic life.
5) It took ALL my past auditing and “dusted it off” and polished it into brand new shining states and abilities.

I wrote 60 pages of success stories during the rundown – here is the last one I wrote the day I attested:
I have decided to get 100 people onto Super Power!
Now I do have a few questions below and I want to say this to you: PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!

I don’t CARE what the answer is – not at all. But I want to help 100 people onto Super Power and I can held as an FSM or not (if you already have an FSM) – and I can help in ways I didn’t even conceive of 3 weeks ago!!! But OT or not, the universe runs on DATA and without data no amount of Tone 40 and “help” is possible:

So here are my survey questions:

1) Considering the above and everything else you have heard about Super Power, do you intend to do this Rundown sometime in the future?

2) Do you have an FSM who is actively helping you move up the Bridge? I am not trying to be everyone’s FSM… I don’t CARE about that. Super Power shows you how you are causing the flowers to grow!!! I am not worried about pieces of papers with numbers on it!!!

3) No-one will make it through Super Power without Purif and Objectives fully done: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin and when did you do that Rundown? Have you completed a full battery of Objectives or the new Golden Age of Tech II Survival Rundown?

The best way I can describe Super Power is, that this is 8th dynamic auditing! It looks at life from the top down. Where before you confronted a quarter you can now confront the Federal Reserve! And with CONFRONT I don’t mean “able to stand the pain” but “be there COMFORTABLY and PERCEIVE” (and not with 5 but with 57 perceptions).

The word “love” has been mis-used and abused and means today not much more than 2D.

Well, I always loved you as my fellow men… but Super Power brought to light a much deeper love and admiration. That for whole-track freedom fighters who need a hand to recover their strength after many battles against insanity.

If there ever was a God he gave LRH the insight and enlightenment that made him able to develop Super Power!

Much love,

Berndt
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

:omg:
 

Freeminds

Bitter defrocked apostate
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

A "Thetan rocket booster?"

Is that clamspeak for a blowjob, or just run-of-the-mill retarded pseudoscience?

Anyway, shut up and take my money: I love it when you talk Theta to me.
 

Isme

Patron with Honors
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niacin?

"PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!"

Mike Rinder: Berndt Mottl Pitches Super Power
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/berndt-mottl-pitches-super-power/

As always, please go to Mike's blog for his analysis.

LEAKED E-MAIL:

This reads totally nuts to me. Imho wins shouldn't be used as THE promo piece, but whatever.

I like the "plug" to spending money in there that I am CERTAIN the SO staffers caught so encouraged this person to send the email...

Where before you confronted a quarter you can now confront the Federal Reserve! And with CONFRONT I don’t mean “able to stand the pain” but “be there COMFORTABLY and PERCEIVE” (and not with 5 but with 57 perceptions).


Oh yes, I will deaden all 57 perceptions so I can see that I am in, but don't feel the pain of remortgaging my house for the fifth time. :duh:

This is just going beyond ridiculous and has truly entered the realm of incomprehensible idiocy.
 

Helena Handbasket

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I never took 5000mg of niacin on the Purif, but before Scn I was into something called Orthomolecular Psychiatry which believed in the same sort of vitamins. I was up to 5000 (or was that 2500?) mg of niacin at one point.

But it restimulated some EXTREME sadness. So terrible, that I stopped the program and never continued.

I said it before and I'll say it again: the real EP of the Purif is deciding you need auditing.

Helena
 

ThetanExterior

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I don't know how many mg of Niacin I had but I know that I reached the maximum of all vits and after three weeks I'd still not had a damn thing turn on or off.

They had to take me off the Purif and send me to the Advanced Org to make me write a "success story" before they'd let me go onto the next action.

Oh happy days - not!
 

This is NOT OK !!!!

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I got to 5,000 mg Niacin both times I did the Purif.

My liver still hasn't forgiven me!
 

phenomanon

Canyon
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I got to 5,000 mg Niacin both times I did the Purif.

My liver still hasn't forgiven me!

I did a liver cleanse after the Purif, but there's nothing I can do about the hearing loss that 5000 units of Niacin caused. My eardrums 'bout exploded at the 600 units level, but I continued to 5000.
I was auditing a PC fairly early on in myPurif when I said to her " Is that my arm, or is it yours"? Thank God that my PCs loved me. PC laughed like hell, I explained I was on the Purif, and I declined to audit anymore until I completed it.
I honestly couldn't differentiate one arm from another. Both were on the auditing table. I looked and looked and finally had to ask. LOL.
 

lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

Since their has been few treads recently about the purif

I wonder how people reading on message boards could still want to enroll on such procedure.
In fact, there is not even one single study showing any positive result in detoxifying with such procedure
neither a factual collect of datas like blood of tissues samples analysis.

To the contrary, there is evidences with independant studies that such high dosage of niacin can be very much harmfull

There is many testimonies of such dammages well documented with medical test and exams in hospitals especially to the liver. (particurlarly with Narconon expose)

I myself experienced the same severe illness twice on the purif and it possibly dammaged permanently my bones from severe dehydratation and mineral loss.

To the lurkers : Please, if you hold on such belief that your body needs some detoxification - there is many gentle way to perform such detox for the different organs involved, Competent naturopath, herborist specialist, integrative medicine doctors can recommand some program known , for not creating health issue, at least. Such program shall be developped bycompetent people - never by a guru leading a cult. As many people, I do gentle detox one or twice a years with giving a rest to my body while drinking many fluids, herbs juice and eat fresh raw food and exercice.
 
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Reasonable

Silver Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

To any Super Power graduates:

The only gain I want to see from a person who claims super powers is the power to make money. Almost everyone wants money. So just to prove you have amazing abilities SHOW ME THE MONEY. At least that is quantifiable. I am sure a few people have made money. But Hubbard says it works 100% of the time and since most people want money, I will re-join if I see 90% of people making about $250,000 a year after doing super power.


Until that I don't want to hear about remote viewing, overflowing theta or a rocket ride on Hubbard's big red pointy cock. Just show me the money.
 

8-8008

Patron with Honors
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

To any Super Power graduates:

The only gain I want to see from a person who claims super powers is the power to make money. Almost everyone wants money. So just to prove you have amazing abilities SHOW ME THE MONEY. At least that is quantifiable. I am sure a few people have made money. But Hubbard says it works 100% of the time and since most people want money, I will re-join if I see 90% of people making about $250,000 a year after doing super power.


Until that I don't want to hear about remote viewing, overflowing theta or a rocket ride on Hubbard's big red pointy cock. Just show me the money.


LOL I agree. If the money is flowing like never before and if you make a MILLION within a year, I get back in Scn.... :)
 

scooter

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I "finished" the Purif on 2,500 mg B3. That was before the Runt Usurper piloted His version on the Mimeo section at Int by running them up to 5,000 on their bi-annual Purifs and leaving them there for months.

Since then, I've seen folks at NarCONons take 3 months or more of sauna torture.
 

Udarnik

Gold Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I "finished" the Purif on 2,500 mg B3. That was before the Runt Usurper piloted His version on the Mimeo section at Int by running them up to 5,000 on their bi-annual Purifs and leaving them there for months.

Since then, I've seen folks at NarCONons take 3 months or more of sauna torture.

Three months?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. That is accompanied by the vitamin mega-doses, right? :duh:

Someone is going to die. :nervous:

Oh wait, someone already has. :angry:
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

Three months?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. That is accompanied by the vitamin mega-doses, right? :duh:

Someone is going to die. :nervous:

Oh wait, someone already has. :angry:

I have posted this before, but it deserves another mention, on this thread.

I was the Case Supervisor for the Purif at CCInt for about 5 years or so. CCI has a good sized Purif and 3 full time staff just for Purif. We had many completions of the Purif. I would say most people on it got up to 5000mg of niacin before completing. I would say 80% or so made it to 5000 mg.

Sometime in the 90's I got a request... I was in the C/S office (Ivory Tower) and I was told that Dr Denk was downstairs in the Purif area and wanted to talk to me. I went down to see him. From what I understood, he had helped develop the Purif with LRH (I have no idea if that is true, but that was what I understood at the time). He had a paper in his hand, which I found out was from Senior C/S Int, Ray Mithoff, who was asking him what advice he had when someone got up to 5000mg of niacin but had still not achieved the end phenomena of the Purif? Was it safe to have the person take higher doses? Dr Denk came to me to find out the answer. I thought it was a bit odd, but ok. I answered him that we had not had that problem. Some had gotten up to 5000 mg of niacin and no longer getting any reactions from it and it appeared to be dragging. We would go back through all of the days they had been on the RD and find where the niacin was raised when it was still getting a reaction and put the person back down to the lower dosage. This always produced a reaction (niacin reaction) on the person and they were able to continue forward and complete the action.

So he left with that information and I assume answered the letter to that effect. Thankfully he did not say that it was ok to have a person go to higher dosages of niacin. That was what was being asked.... if they could go higher than 5000mg of niacin in one dose. Yeesh.
 

Maria

Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

LOL I agree. If the money is flowing like never before and if you make a MILLION within a year, I get back in Scn.... :)

Oh! I agree! In that case I'll go back too!

Too bad "the English language has literally no vocabulary to describe what has happened with the advent of this Rundown" so we will never know...
 

Happy Days

Silver Meritorious Patron
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

Berndt Mottl is the brother of Gerhardt Mottl who lives here in ACT, a local Scio ... I remember their mother who was living in Germany, we had met and sadly she has since passed away, she reported the cult for not having medical cover for Berndt, a then SO member, in Germany, the cult had to yield and get medical cover for all SO members in Germany, good outcome; and Gerhardt took pleasure in telling us that this occurred ... funny that... as he's was/is still a brainwashed cult member and his daughter Ayla is on staff at ACT org. This happened was some time ago now early 2000's.

In relation to Berndt success story, it reads like the ramblings of a man on the brink of a psychotic break... and that my friends is Scientology. Nuff said :)
 

HollywoodGuy

Patron with Honors
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

When I did the Purif, I think it only took me about two weeks.

I was actually only doing it for about two hours a day during the weekdays. On the weekends, I did it a little bit longer.

I have no idea how much niacin I took, but certainly not enough where I was getting a niacin flush.

Overall, my Purif experience was pretty benign.

I was only 14 when I did it. At that point, I had just tried pot a few times, and I'd had the occasional aspirin, cough syrup, caffeine, etc.
 

Dave B.

Maximus Ultimus Mostimus
Re: Scientology: Have you completed the Purification Rundown taking up to 5000mg Niac

I lasted nine days on the Purif. Don't remember how much Niacin I was taking but the entire experience was dreadful. Not theraputic. My BP was 209/140, I almost had a stroke.
 

Viktor

New Member
Yes. I did!! 32days 5000mg of niacin with an excellent noticable result. Who ever say its a dreadful experience, obviously don't know what they're talking about. Being a Scientologist or not it's great experience and opportunity.
 

Veda

Sponsor
Yes. I did!! 32days 5000mg of niacin with an excellent noticable result. Who ever say its a dreadful experience, obviously don't know what they're talking about. Being a Scientologist or not it's great experience and opportunity.

What other Scientology services have you done?
 
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