Scientology Makes Sense to Scientologists

[Alanzo]

FTS wrote:

It's really not very nice. The comments on this thread to my reasoned arguments leave me with the feeling that I had better not bloody well comment on anything Carmel says or it will be seen as a personal attack. Again - WTF? :confused2:

Luckily I am not going to take it that way though.

The comments on this thread ignoring the points you made on your reasoned arguments are not very nice.

They are, literally, ignorant.

And I'm very glad that you are not going to let them stop you from making your reasoned arguments EVEN LOUDER!!!

Hell is the impossibility of reason.

Hell is what we would have if L Ron Hubbard's tactics would rule society, even though very few of his followers would have ever intended to make Earth a hell.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Stranger things have happened!

Well I've just been labelled pedantic - does that therefore make my comments accurate?

Not necessarily. Is being right important to you? :confused2: Is rightness akin to accuracy...or the same thing...

Ah, the human conditon!

What a marvelous, layered game we play.

EP

 

[Alanzo]

Not necessarily. Is being right important to you? :confused2: Is rightness akin to accuracy...or the same thing...

Ah, the human conditon!

What a marvelous, layered game we play.

EP

"Being Right" was always the perfect accusation in Scientology. You could be accused, tried and convicted on that alone.

All you had to do was believe you were right about something and THAT ALONE was proof that you were wrong.

Out here in the real world, however, showing or demonstrating specifically why you were wrong is the only thing that is acceptable - not just accusing someone that they thought they were "right".

C'mon, EP.

You can do better than that.

 

[Zinjifar]

We shoot people too obsessed with being 'right' here in the Wog World too.

Zinj

 

[Alanzo]

We shoot people too obsessed with being 'right' here in the Wog World too.

Zinj

I don't think Free to Shine was in flagrante delicto of committing that sin on ESMB.

Do you really want a piece of me, Zinj?

 

[Zinjifar]

I don't think Free to Shine was in flagrante delicto of committing that sin on ESMB.

Do you really want a piece of me, Zinj?

Is de-shelling free?
Could I have the london broil?

Zinj

 

[Alanzo]

Is de-shlling free?
Could I have the london broil?

Zinj

This post right here is a great example of why Zinj is on top right now.

Zinjifar has been on so many modem-rat bulletin boards, and Internet lists, and UseNet Newsgroups, over so many years, that he has learned to float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee.

Joe Frazier

 

[Zinjifar]

Your point? I thought that's what we call William Gibsonian, although, with a dash of pynchon and a more mainstream bent.

Zinj

 

[Tiger Lily]

Bee Sting: NEVER! Its' so much fun having you both here!

Love,

Bee Sting
Bz

Thanks Bee Sting -- you know I feel the same way. This board attracts the best of the best: Intelligence, personality, humor, ideas . . . .all at one place. . . quite a silver lining if you ask me!!

-TL

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Is my memory failing!

This post right here is a great example of why Zinj is on top right now.

Zinjifar has been on so many modem-rat bulletin boards, and Internet lists, and UseNet Newsgroups, over so many years, that he has learned to float like a butterfly, and sting like a bee.

Joe Frazier

As I recall it was Cassius Clay who made the claims, in bold, above. But whatta eye noe - bein' heartliy evuh wright, accordion ta sum. :confused2:

EP

 

[Alanzo]

As I recall it was Cassius Clay who made the claims, in bold, above. But whatta eye noe - bein' heartliy evuh wright, accordion ta sum. :confused2:

EP

Your memory was correct.

Joe Frazier was Ali's undoing.

I was sending Zinj a message...

 

[I told you I was trouble]

whoops ....

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

I'm old enough to remember...

T'was ... well sort of ...

'Muhammad Muhammad Ali ... floats like a butterfly ... stings like a bee ...'

He was still Cassius Clay when he knocked out Floyd Patterson in '63, as I recall. I was drinkin' in the Tomahawk Lounge of the Lewis and Clark Hotel in Lewiston Idaho, and we were all set for a big, long show - I went to take a leak and missed the whole thing!

Shortly after that he took the "Muhammad Ali" name on board - I think. Anyway, he was beautiful to watch and a brave guy even then. I applaud him!

Truth! EP

EP

 

[I told you I was trouble]

He was still Cassius Clay when he knocked out Floyd Patterson in '63, as I recall. I was drinkin' in the Tomahawk Lounge of the Lewis and Clark Hotel in Lewiston Idaho, and we were all set for a big, long show - I went to take a leak and missed the whole thing!

Shortly after that he took the "Muhammad Ali" name on board - I think. Anyway, he was beautiful to watch and a brave guy even then. I applaud him!

Truth! EP

EP

OOoooh I bet that hurt (missing the show) ...

I just remember a song from years ago 'Muhammad ... Muhammad Ali ... floats like a butterfly ... stings like a bee' .. so I figured he had changed name by then (I deleted the post but you were too quick for me!) ... he is a beautiful and brave guy ... he exudes warmth.

 

[Vinaire]

Yea, DMSMH did sort of make sense, it was the thing that pulled me in. But I think Feral actually nailed it. You see that certain parts work and that you can believe them, and you read KSW and begin to believe that it's all true, and then you buy the indoctrination to the point where wild things actually make sense.

Nobody would believe the xenu thing without all the preparation of the mind that leads up to it. That's why it had to be secret.

-TL

Hubbard did describe hypnotism that way... it is building agreement on a gradient.

Scientology is that way... and so is this universe. They parallel each other. By understanding the true nature of Scientology, maybe we can also understand the true nature of this universe.

.

 

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Wow...just wow...

Hubbard did describe hypnotism that way... it is building agreement on a gradient.

Scientology is that way... and so is this universe. They parallel each other. By understanding the true nature of Scientology, maybe we can also understand the true nature of this universe.

.

Wonderful post Vinaire! (the term below applies, IMO)

Res ipsa loquitur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaRes ipsa loquitur is a legal term from the Latin meaning, "the thing itself speaks" but is more often translated "the thing speaks for itself. ...

 

[Vinaire]

Carmel, it wasn't an actual prerequisite, but by definition a person is PTS type H if they are open minded and don't actually know that Scientology is the correct tech. This is part of the cognitive dissonance that is laid in from the beginning of your experience as a Scientologist. You may or may not ever be told this, but if you have trouble or become trouble you may or may not be "typed" as openminded to explain away your inability to accept or KNOW the truth of Scientology.

Eventually as you study Scientology you probably find yourself doing something like this........

"this is true, That's right. Yep that's true. Wait that's not...oh I must have an MU."

You see if you disagree YOU are wrong NOT the data. But it takes some fancy footwork to get people to this point where they will question themselves rather then the data.

GT

I never could understand that "open mind" bit by Hubbard that it was bad or wrong. To me being open minded was part of my ideal scene. That asssertion by Hubbard never made sense to me, and it always kept me alert about simply accepting things.

.

 

[Tiger Lily]

Hubbard did describe hypnotism that way... it is building agreement on a gradient.

hmmm. . . . you think he knew what he was doing even from the beginning? Was DMSMH his experiment into mass-hypnotism?

Scientology is that way... and so is this universe. They parallel each other. By understanding the true nature of Scientology, maybe we can also understand the true nature of this universe.

OK, now that's deep! I've gotta think on that one for a while.

They say the universes holographic. . . .

-TL

 

[Bee Sting]

hmmm. . . . you think he knew what he was doing even from the beginning? Was DMSMH his experiment into mass-hypnotism?

OK, now that's deep! I've gotta think on that one for a while.

They say the universes holographic. . . .

-TL

Maybe the universe is three dimensional LHR, Money and David Miscavige
:confused2:

 

[Tiger Lily]

Maybe the universe is three dimensional LHR, Money and David Miscavige
:confused2:

I'd hate to see a 4th dimension in that universe!