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Scientology may be too "out-gradient"

Veda

Sponsor
This was one particular viewpoint from a SO recruiter I met. Although I added the last 2 sentences as motivations of the desire/belief.

Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you were recruiting for the Sea Org, here on ESMB (!), only - having looked over your other posts also - that you're tending to confuse Scientology promo with reality.
 

Tanstaafl

Crusader
And now, an imtermission for a short raspberry. :p

(In between the other skits, a random comment on Monty Python cassette)

I'm starting to feel guilty about copius gratuitous silly-posting on other people's threads.

How about tomorrow we start a new thread - Bea and Tanstaafl's Amazing Technicolor Python-Quote Extravaganza Thread?
 

Case

Patron with Honors
I'm not suggesting throwing out the bridge. What I see as in need of elimination is the status orientation. When people depend on a label such as OT8 or Class whatever for status then they become less able to examine their non optimum conditions.

So would you propose a bridge without steps and gradients or levels? Or a ban on disclosing ones level so it can't be used as a status factor?

I get what you're saying, but surely highly knowledgeable tech personnel are a plus point, for others at least, although I can see how it might get in the way for improving their own case if they get all high and mighty or are expected to be perfect.

Lots of thetans floating around and playing their own games. Some can pick up bodies. Others make mischief.

What kinda mischief?
 

Bea Kiddo

Crusader
I'm starting to feel guilty about copius gratuitous silly-posting on other people's threads.

How about tomorrow we start a new thread - Bea and Tanstaafl's Amazing Technicolor Python-Quote Extravaganza Thread?

Uh.... you may win though... cause I may run out of quotes before you. You are, after, Brittish.

They teach Monty Python as part of history, math and literature classes, right?

He is a basic of your culture? :D
 

Case

Patron with Honors
:wtf:

What is it about process the positive and the negative will come to view - that makes people put their heads up their arse?

Obviously if a NEGATIVE COMES TO VIEW it would get holographically duplicated and fully permeated and thus completely handled - or the steps needing to handle it would be known - but with the awareness of the prior positive and holographic vision from which its power stems from.

The fact is having the positive from which to compare to or from - allows the being to greatly accelerate finding the source of the negative - thus correction and enhancement also accelerates.



That works on some - but most people are living in collapsed universes - that is they have no space - no time - no energy - no objects - worse these things are restimulative thus must be gotten rid of!

The reason they are in this state is because they are continuously run on the negative.

I boomed Scio world wide starting in 1964 - because I recognized that the earlier practitioners had no reach!

There is a Tech of Reach - it is not taught in Scio or the Freezone.

As a matter of fact the majority of people do not want this Tech - they much prefer to move the mental furniture around in their little confort zone boxes of agreed-upon reaching.

Scio and the Freezone has a history of attempting to steal from those who can reach.

A case is but a piece of the whole - :omg:

Alan

But if an engram or other undesirable condition exists surely it should be handled if possible. OT1-8 take only a few years to complete, and that's a short time in ones eternity. Its not like the negative is forever being focused on.
 

Alanzo

Bardo Tulpa
Uh.... you may win though... cause I may run out of quotes before you. You are, after, Brittish.

They teach Monty Python as part of history, math and literature classes, right?

He is a basic of your culture? :D

I think he founded Oxford.
 

Tanstaafl

Crusader
Uh.... you may win though... cause I may run out of quotes before you. You are, after, Brittish.

They teach Monty Python as part of history, math and literature classes, right?

He is a basic of your culture? :D

Actually, I was once good friends with one of Monty's nephews.
Anyway......... if you like, we'll start the Ministry of Silly Posts thread tomorrow. :)
 

Case

Patron with Honors
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Originally Posted by Case:
Or go off to another planet as a Class XII and bring the state of Clear and OT to them -as part of the Billion Year Contract. One would possibly get A LOT of admiration from that planet doing such a thing. One might be able to feel how LRH felt delivering a tech.

There might be a few that want to exteriorize from the Universe altogether. Get some "me" time.

Veda:I think you're reading too much Scientology promo.
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Originally Posted by Case:
This was one particular viewpoint from a SO recruiter I met. Although I added the last 2 sentences as motivations of the desire/belief.

Veda: Oh, I wasn't suggesting that you were recruiting for the Sea Org, here on ESMB (!), only - having looked over your other posts also - that you're tending to confuse Scientology promo with reality.

Just additional reasons why people join the movement.

I also once met someone who was focused on telekinesis, thinking that scientology could help him regain that ability.
 

Alan

Gold Meritorious Patron
But if an engram or other undesirable condition exists surely it should be handled if possible.

What part of: "Obviously if a NEGATIVE COMES TO VIEW it would get holographically duplicated and fully permeated and thus completely handled." do you not understand?

What-ever comes to view! Geez! If an engram, or loss or a painful bunnion or a flat tire! If it is impeding the clients life - get it handled by the correct Tech!.

OT1-8 take only a few years to complete, and that's a short time in ones eternity. Its not like the negative is forever being focused on.

OTI to OT 8 seems to have left the majority who have done this - in basket case and life shape.

Why not just focus on the positive and process what comes up - I've been training and processing people for nearly 50 years - never met a standard case yet :melodramatic:

I have THE BRIDGE it is exactly the same for each person!

It is: FOLOW THE CLIENTS INTEREST LINES - GOALS LINE - GAMES MATRICES.

:happydance: :happydance: :happydance:

Alan
 
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