When I worked as a Sea Org course supervisor one thing that disturbed me was making staff and public constantly redo levels. Like I remember a time when a lot of clears got told they were not clear at all yet. Similar thing happened to me -myfolder went up for CCRD and came back to do lower levels. OT VII - the same thing happened. Grades - suddenly became shorter and objectives became longer. I supervised 5-10 versions of different scientology courses. Also staff members were told to redo their post training and they were not considered fully trained for their post anymore. Somewhere it is crazy. Even books are redone and rewritten so you have to rebuy them. When I was at staff so many people wanted to leave they could not fit them to the two ethics rooms - they had to rotate them throughout the day.
Scientology - redoing levels and courses
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Sindy
Crusader
To liken it to Scientology it would be like being a dentist who was once well thought of and considered innovate. At this time, you as the dentist sell lots of services and people pay dearly for them -- so excited to be part of the future of magical dentistry. All your patients will have Super Teeth and their mouths will live forever.
Then, stories come out about what a shoddy dentist you are I mean, you never even completed dentistry school. Not only that, you received "F" grades and were considered, while attending, to be mentally unstable!
News gets around so you are unable to get new clients. Your only way to survive is to redo the services on your old clients, the ones who still believe in you and who refuse to read Yelp.
Good grief people! Use your noggins like Scientology is supposedly teaching you to do and run like hell before all your [STRIKE]teeth[/STRIKE] brains fall out.
Then, stories come out about what a shoddy dentist you are I mean, you never even completed dentistry school. Not only that, you received "F" grades and were considered, while attending, to be mentally unstable!
News gets around so you are unable to get new clients. Your only way to survive is to redo the services on your old clients, the ones who still believe in you and who refuse to read Yelp.
Good grief people! Use your noggins like Scientology is supposedly teaching you to do and run like hell before all your [STRIKE]teeth[/STRIKE] brains fall out.
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Exactly! So what would you do with Scientology? Just leave and find yourself another highly overrated and overprived , good-for-nothin' guru?
Enthetan
Master of Disaster
Yes, this is common Scn practice. If stats are down, figure out something, anything to get stats up. Even if it is totally insane, and results in long-term damage, that's OK as long as it gets THIS WEEK'S stats up.
eldritch cuckoo
brainslugged reptilian
Yes, I can imagine that quite well, especially if the dentist, or the "doctor" (ho hum) who sent us there, is an esoteric whacko who says the daaannngerous amalgam fillings (accountable for just about all medical problems one ever had, and ever will get) should all be removed and replaced with ceramic fillings, which don't hold that well - especially during growth (IMO), don't keep that long (IMO), aren't covered by insurance, and are insanely expensive, and btw. the drilling for the replacement will take one more chunk out of the tooth.LUNATICS!
(Sorry couldn't resist!)
Either that, or a new family.
Claire Swazey
Spokeshole, fence sitter
DM'S been doing this shot since forever. When the R&D volumes came out, after a lot of them had been purchased, they redid them!
Lulu Belle
Moonbat
If there's a place for Awesome Classic Posts, this one belongs there.
It pretty much sums it up.
LUNATICS!
(Sorry couldn't resist!)
Either that, or a new family.
Amalgam fillings! Yeah, I remember. A big hype started when became public knowledge that Amalgam contained ... ugh... I believe it was Mercury. Many people had their fillings removed replaced because of that.
I believe there area few grains of truth in that hype, but I don't think it was all worth it. Back in those days, a fellow MSer had all of his teeth removed because of this hype and it didn't make him feel any better.
Sindy
Crusader
Amalgam fillings! Yeah, I remember. A big hype started when became public knowledge that Amalgam contained ... ugh... I believe it was Mercury. Many people had their fillings removed replaced because of that.
I believe there area few grains of truth in that hype, but I don't think it was all worth it. Back in those days, a fellow MSer had all of his teeth removed because of this hype and it didn't make him feel any better.
My dentist (who is an upfront dude) who could make more dough selling composite fillings, told me that he heard the original creator/maker of the composite filling say that they are just as toxic as the amalgam fillings -- just different toxins. My dentist doesn't see that they're any better except for cosmetically and they definitely last a much shorter time.
eldritch cuckoo
brainslugged reptilian
Poison everywhere... it's only a matter of time... We're all going to die...
SOON...
In a HORRIBLE way...
And SLOW...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cGsm_eaNhw&index=4&list=PL786EBDC8D2B4CD1D
[31 oz mercury (Hg) hourglass]
Gib
Crusader
While I wasn't tech trained other than up to level 0, I was more admin trained and did do self study of the OEC's.
What you are explaining of your experience is actually in the PR/Marketing series. Which DM applied because there is not OT9 and above OT levels that Hubbard said were available in note form. (all lies).
What DM did was to follow the PL on it. I forget the exact PL but can look it up. It goes something like this:
1. Look around and find something to sell.
2. Program out a big marketing around it, PR it up.
3. Release it.
4. While doing that, repeat.
And this is why we have International Events every 4 months or so. It was was done with New PRO TR's, KTL/LOC, The Basics, GAT1, GAT2, New E-Meter, etc.
So, since there is no OT9 and above available for DM to release, he has no choice but to do what I say above. Ged it? If not, I see if I can explain better.
This has been gone over before in the past here on ESMB and even with Geir Isene.
PS. Hubbard even did the same thing with the so called state known as "clear".
Gib
Crusader
I had to do my auditor's training again after GAT(=Golden Age of Tech) was announced and I wasn't very happy to re do it.
I was audited by a GAT auditor and couldn't spot any difference to any auditing I had before GAT.
Opter
but of course, as I explain above.
Udarnik
Gold Meritorious Patron
Amalgam fillings! Yeah, I remember. A big hype started when became public knowledge that Amalgam contained ... ugh... I believe it was Mercury. Many people had their fillings removed replaced because of that.
I believe there area few grains of truth in that hype, but I don't think it was all worth it. Back in those days, a fellow MSer had all of his teeth removed because of this hype and it didn't make him feel any better.
Amalgam is simply the chemical name for an alloy with mercury.
And no, the amount of mercury getting into your bloodstream from a lifetime of fillings is less than if you ate certain types of fish for dinner every day for a fortnight.
Ogsonofgroo
Crusader
OT, hm, Catholics genuflect, cult regurgitates... 'round and 'round you go, where you end up not even rotten ol' Hubbard knows.
On the mercury filling thing, Udarnik, exactly correct, and I wish I'd known that before some asshole-shit dentist fucked up my teeth 'replacing' fillings that were just fine. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
On the mercury filling thing, Udarnik, exactly correct, and I wish I'd known that before some asshole-shit dentist fucked up my teeth 'replacing' fillings that were just fine. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
David C Gibbons
Ex-Scientology Peon
This may or may not be on-topic, but did you know certain squirrels eat their own droppings towards the end of winter when there is no other food to be had? I am sure this doesn't make Scientologists who re-do stuff over and over (and paying dearly for the privilege) SQUIRRELS, does it? (Heh)
Techless
Patron Meritorious
This is so funny.
the place I live now, has been and is totally owned by squirrels. They dilly-dally about the whole place, and even give us sneers from their perches outside, while we just sit here, stupid on the couch. (cottage in the woods)
Because of ESMB, I now see them all with little cameras on their heads.
I know they have serious intel on us. I'm scared. little fuzzy freakin rats.
Ah...talking about the human scn ones. The real ones I can live with.
the place I live now, has been and is totally owned by squirrels. They dilly-dally about the whole place, and even give us sneers from their perches outside, while we just sit here, stupid on the couch. (cottage in the woods)
Because of ESMB, I now see them all with little cameras on their heads.
I know they have serious intel on us. I'm scared. little fuzzy freakin rats.
Ah...talking about the human scn ones. The real ones I can live with.
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