What's new

Scientology, Ron Hubbard and Hypnosis

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
Here's the rest of the story, too funny Pirate, after we finished the coaudit, a few months later the org calls me, and my twin calls me cuz he wants to twin with me, to do the New Survival Rundown. I'm like are you fucking kidding me, I just spent a year doing the CCH's/Objectives new rundown, for a god damn year, every weekend going into the org, paying for parking, paying for lunches, paying for gas, spending my weekend time, and for what, they said new process's. WTF.

I said no, but they tried to convince me.

BTW, I'm not declared or anything, still get promo and letters, LOL
OMG, that's crackin' crazy. But sounds perfectly consistent. The "New" SRD. A rundown released in 1980, lol.

Close to the end of my days I dreaded having to resign for another course. I think every weekend for 17 straight years was consumed by being on course. I was one of the very very few that actually trained to CL V. In fact I think I was the ONLY person in those 17 years that did so.
 

Gib

Crusader
OMG, that's crackin' crazy. But sounds perfectly consistent. The "New" SRD. A rundown released in 1980, lol.

Close to the end of my days I dreaded having to resign for another course. I think every weekend for 17 straight years was consumed by being on course. I was one of the very very few that actually trained to CL V. In fact I think I was the ONLY person in those 17 years that did so.
well, that's what DM did, regurgitate old stuff and make it sound new discovered, a money grab.
 

Gib

Crusader
Hypnosis as Hubbard noted works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. It works on some people but not others. On those it does work it often wears off. On those it does work a process ie technique may make them happy and suggestible one day but not work on another. It is notoriously inconsistent.

Even modern believers in hypnosis like NLP users admit it doesn't work on everyone and that if altitude is lost or rapport is lost or trust is lost you lose the ability to influence the subject.


Even the NLP veterans who sell books and videos admit that they fail with some people and if you dig into their literature they admit that none of their techniques are certain or permanent in effect.
Hypnosis works on some, rhetoric works on some.

The common denominator is getting agreement. If you don't get agreement, no dice.
 

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
With perfect semi-colonic ecstasy and glittering glossaries who wouldn't rush willy-nilly to wait standing in the long line at the entrance to the registrar's office, credit-card held high.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gib

Gib

Crusader
With perfect semi-colonic ecstasy and glittering glossaries who wouldn't rush willy-nilly to wait standing in the long line at the entrance to the registrar's office, credit-card held high.
here's the thing Pirate, in the Hubbard PL's, one could only pay for services by cash, no credit cards at that the time, these are St Hill Policy letters, the org would never extend credit to a pc. except maybe qual.

yep, only cash, hubbard was astute about that policy. And yet, Hubbard said his tech would free you.

Come the 1980's when DM took over things changed, he never applied that policy, yep, if you can get credit from elsewhere to pay, we like it. The problem is yours if you can't pay for your credit card, you are responsible. LOL

And yet if one goes up the bridge one becomes more able to make money. And if you don't?
 

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
If you don't then you must become a Jedi and expert at telling the registrar, "I am not the droid mark qualified prospect you are looking for."
 
  • Like
Reactions: Gib

Gib

Crusader
If you don't then you must become a Jedi and expert at telling the registrar, "I am not the droid mark qualified prospect you are looking for."
yep, that's true, but if you don't have the bucks, why Hubbard had an answer to that, join the winning team, thru his rhetoric or persuasion,

join staff and you can get auditing while going up the bridge while helping to free other beings from the trap.
 

PirateAndBum

Gold Meritorious Patron
yep, that's true, but if you don't have the bucks, why Hubbard had an answer to that, join the winning team, thru his rhetoric or persuasion,

join staff and you can get auditing while going up the bridge while helping to free other beings from the trap.
<snorts>

Yeah, been there, done that. Three times over. And you know what? I never got any grade chart auditing or auditor training while on staff (that I didn't personally pay for.)

And those noble Sea Org members that slaved for 10, 20, 30 years and reached the exalted level of maybe Grade 0. Yeah, thanks for the exchange in abundance Ronny.
 

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
McGill can stuff it.

I am an auditor.

Use of hypnosis in auditing was expressly forbidden in my training nor have I ever used it and NO the processing itself is NOT inherently hypnotic.

Policy...

The way policy gets practiced...

Maybe there is some measure of induction of trance state but you couldn't prove it by me.

I did NOT see induction of trance state either as public or staff
I put together a little something for you. It features some of the statements made by Jon Atack and a lot of quotes from Ron Hubbard. Food for thought for auditors.

Scientology has been described as based on hypnosis by many Scientology experts. Now, this is not a statement that these people are infallible authorities or that their consensus or near consensus on Scientology and hypnosis is beyond questioning or absolute proof. I hope that people take these statements as reason to consider that they might be correct and it is worth serious examination of the evidence for a claim when you have a consensus or near consensus by a variety of experts on a topic. They are not automatically right but the claim they make is worth looking at.


I am going to start with the person I consider the top living Scientology expert - Jon Atack. Jon Atack has studied influence for around thirty years and written several books on influence and one on Scientology and numerous articles as well.


I am going to quote his article Never Believe A Hypnotist. This article is available in full online.





"Hubbard was ambiguous about suggestion: "We never give positive suggestions” (R&D1, p.48); but "you are putting in positive suggestion whether you want to or not, no matter how careful you are” (R&D1, p.336)."


"As well as showing genuine insight into hypnosis, Hubbard's statements are a fascinating maze of contradiction and misdirection. It soon becomes apparent that Hubbard is both eager to show off his knowledge and determined to hide something vital: that Dianetics is a form of hypnosis.
Prolonged and deliberate study of Hubbard's teachings makes it impossible to escape the conclusion that Dianetics is a form of hypnosis, differing only from that subject in the words used to describe the procedures. Hubbard's own Policy Letter "Propaganda by Redefinition of Words” (PR series 12) gives some understanding of the sigificance of redefinition (something Hubbard was frequently prone to, "reasonable” and "postulate”, for instance). "



"The current Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course seeks to re-establish Dianetic "auditing” as it was performed at its inception in 1950 (see The Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course or The Hubbard Dianetics Seminar)."


"In his second article, Hubbard admitted "I knew hypnotism was, more or less, a fundamental” (EoS, p.22) and said that "hypnosis was examined” (ibid, p.23; see also EoS, p.96; R&D1, p.183). Hubbard also claimed to have used "hypno-analysis” (EoS, p.24) - psychoanalysis practised on a hypnotised subject - and recommended a book on the subject (Hypnotism Comes of Age, R&D2, p.12)."



"Hypnotism "reduces self-determinism by interposing the commands of another below the analytical level of an individual's mind ... It is the sort of control mechanism in which an authoritarian individual, cult, or ideology delight. People who indulge in hypnotism may, only very occasionally, be interested in experimentation upon the human mind ... Genuine experimental hypnotism, strictly in the laboratory and never in the parlour, and done wholly in the knowledge that one is reducing the efficiency of the human being on whom one is experimenting and may do him permanent damage, and the use of hypnotism by a surgeon ... should end the extension of hypnotism into the society. Submission to being hypnotized is analagous to being raped, with the exception that the individual can, generally, recover from being raped. To any clear-thinking human who believes in the value of people as human beings, there is something gruesomely obscene about hypnotism. The interjection of unseen controls below the level of consciousness cannot benefit but can only pervert the mind ... The individual who would permit himself to be hypnotized is, frankly, a fool ... It was thought by hypnotists that the mere remembering of ... suggestions would relieve them, and that the power of the suggestion died out with time. These two ideas do not happen to be true” (SOSII, p.220f; see also pp.225f). "


"Hypnosis defined:
According to Hubbard, hypnosis is a relatively simple mechanism, "By deep trance or drugs we take a patient into amnesia trance, a state of being wherein the 'I' is not in control but the operator is the 'I' (and that's all there is, really, to the function of hypnosis: the transfer of analytical power through the law of affinity from subject to operator, a thing which had a racial development and survival value in animals which ran in packs).” (DMSMH, p.94)."


"Hubbard gave various descriptions of hypnotism, for example: "Hypnotism is the entering of the hypnotist's personality and desires below the choice level of the individual.” (SOSI, p.16); and "Hypnotism is the art of implanting positive suggestions in the engram bank.” (DMSMH, p.384). By the time Science of Survival was published, in June 1951, Hubbard asserted that "Hypnotism never has and never will raise an individual on the [emotional] tone scale” (SOSI, p.161)."


"Positive suggestion:
Hubbard made various assertions about suggestion: "positive suggestion means in hypnosis a suggestion which is given to a hypnotized subject which will result in some change in the manifestations and actions of that patient” (R&D 1, p.48); "It is a suggestion by the operator to a hypnotized subject with the sole end of creating a changed mental condition in the subject by implantation of the suggestion alone. It is a transplantation of something in the hypnotist's mind into the patient's mind. The patient is then to believe it and take it as part of himself.” (R&D 1, p.237; see also R&D 1, p.33); "Shut down the person's analyzer [the 'analytical mind' of dianetic hypnosis] and what follows goes in as positive suggestion just as though he were hypnotized. He cannot reason on this data, he can only react, and he reacts as dictated by the engram.” (R&D 3, p.244). Hypnotic suggestion is very powerful: "No matter how foolish a suggestion is given to a subject under hypnosis, he will carry it out one way or another ... Any suggestion will operate within his mind unbeknownst to his higher levels of awareness. Very complex suggestions can be given” (DMSMH, p.56). Hubbard went on to say that neuroses, psychoses, compulsions and repressions can all be perfectly imitated through positive suggestion."



"According to Hubbard, trance states are common, and can even be induced through the normal procedures of education: "In altitude teaching, somebody is a 'great authority.' He is probably teaching some subject that is far more complex than it should be. He has become defensive down through the years, and this is a sort of protective coating that he puts up, along with the idea that the subject will always be a little better known by him than by anybody else and that there are things to know in this subject which he really wouldn't let anybody else in on. This is altitude instruction.” As an aside, it is worth mentioning that Hubbard was later to assert that every major tenet in Scientology and Dianetics was his exclusive discovery (see HCOPL "Keeping Scientology Working”, February 1965). Hubbard continued, "And in order to get people to sit very alertly and do exactly what he says, he has another trick: he gives them examinations ... So there is this anxiety around a person's grades, and this comes forward until he finally gets up to a point in education where when somebody says the word examination to him it not only push-buttons him but it also threatens Mama, Papa, love and general survival. It is a terrific whip. It keeps people in a state of confusion, and when their minds are slightly confused they are in a hypnotic trance. Any time anybody gets enough altitude he can be called a hypnotic operator, and what he says will act as hypnotic suggestion. Hypnotism is a difference in levels of altitude. There are ways to create and lower the altitude of the subject, but if the operator can heighten his own altitude with regard to the subject the same way, he doesn't have to put the subject to sleep. What he says will still react as hypnotic suggestion.” (R&D 4, p.324; see also R&D 3, pp. 246 & 248). This is a point which should be considered long and hard by anyone who has been involved with Dianetics or Scientology. "


"Trance in Dianetics:
Hubbard was also aware of the signs of trance: "a pre-clear after he closes his eyes will begin to flutter his eyelids. This a symptom of the very lightest level of hypnotic trance.” (SOS II, p.227); "A simple test is to watch the person's eyeballs. You will find as he lies there that the eyeballs under the closed eyelids will hunt back and forth. You can see the bump of them on the eyelids, and they will be wandering ... the hunting indicates a hypnotic state.” (R&D 1, p.336); "The eye moving underneath the eyelid is the indication of when a person is lightly or deeply tranced. That is the second stage of which the fluttering eyelid is the first.” (R&D 3, p.94); "The preclear's eyes will roll a little bit under the lids and when he returns, particularly, the eyelashes will flutter, which tells you immediately that he has become more suggestible than he ordinarily would be.” (ibid); "Sometimes you will notice a tremble on the eyelids. This means the preclear has deepened his sense of sleep and has left some of his attention units somewhere. This is a very early stage of hypnosis. Be careful of such a patient.” (R&D 4, p.38).The current use of the Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course and the Hubbard Dianetics Seminar is in total contradiction to these admonitions. By returning to the 1950 method, Scientology has returned to direct trance induction. Both of these courses give: "When the preclear's eyes close and you notice his eyelids flicker, finish counting...” (p.54 and p.42 respectively, step two).
These are not the only signs: "If the person begins to answer you literally ... that means your preclear is now a hypnotic subject and you are running him in hypnosis.” (R&D 3, p.94; see also R&D 1, p.336). These prohibitions form no part of any auditor training course known to this author."


"Use of hypnotism in auditing:
The auditor "must be prepared to use hypnotism, he must know how it works, what he should do to make it function, how to regress a person in hypnotism and so on, which is definitely very different from Dianetics in that one produces a trance.” (R&D 1, p.307)."


"After Dianetics: MSMH was published, Hubbard withdrew the system of counting the preclear into reverie: "Sometimes people go into a hypnotic trance by accident with this count system ... so at the Foundation we no longer use it.” (R&D 3, p.15; see also R&D 4, p.37; DMSMH, p.201). Unfortunately, this advice is ignored in the current Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course, auditing reverts entirely to Dianetics: MSMH, so by Hubbard's own statement, the Church of Scientology is using a hypnotic induction as standard procedure ("Count slowly and soothingly from 1 to 7”, just prior to the flickering of the eyelids already mentioned. Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course, p.54, Hubbard Dianetics Seminar, p.42, step two). Hubbard was perfectly aware that counting out loud is a method of hypnotic induction (DMSMH, p.123)."


"Having said that fluttering of the eyelids is indicative of trance (see above), Hubbard gave the following instructions for inducing reverie: "The patient is made to lie down and shut his eyes. The operator begins to count. He suggests the patient relax. At length the patient's eyelids will flutter (Medicine drumming will also accomplish this without producing a harmful amnesia hypnotic state.) He is permitted to relax further. Then the operator tells him that his 'motor strip' (his sensory perceptions [sic]) is returning to a time of unconsciousness ... With coaxing the patient will begin to feel the injury and sense himself in the location and time of the accident.” (R&D 1, p.8). This statment, which comes from Hubbard's first published article on Dianetics, shows an interesting choice of words - the auditor is called the "operator”, he "suggests” that the preclear relax into a state which is not a "harmful amnesia hypnotic state” (which does not rule out light trance, or even "harmless” amnesia), and the engram is found through "coaxing”."


"In lectures given in 1950, Hubbard recommended three books on hypnotism to his followers: "Anyone in doubt as to how hypnotism works need only consult the authoritative books on the subject by Estabrooks [George Hoben Estabrooks, Hypnotism]. In fact, this is recommended as a means of proving that Dianetics and hypnotism are total strangers.” (R&D 4, p.345); "There is a little book by a man by the name of Young written about 1899, which contains in it about as much hypnosis as one ever wants. It is called Twenty-Five Lessons in Hypnosis ... Practically everything in that book works, and clairvoyance, mesmerism and so forth are also delineated” (R&D 1, p.307); the third, and most significant, work recommended is Wolfe and Rosenthal's Hypnotism Comes of Age(R&D2, p.12)."



"Despite protestations that hypnotism and Dianetics are "total strangers”, Hubbard several times advocated the use of hypnotism alongside Dianetics: "it is even allowable to use actual hypnosis if it is possible to procure any results from it. So hypnosis has some value, but it has value only to a professional auditor ... If he can spill emotion in deep trance or even in narcosynthesis, he has achieved a gain on the case. This is for a very special tough type of case” (R&D 1, p.182). Hypnosis and Dianetics are not the only approaches "Faith healing, when not practiced on the hypnotic level of 'This is not going to hurt you any more', has ingredients that you can use.” (R&D 1, p.186).
Auditors do need to be aware of hypnotism: "it is quite usual for the auditor to have to exhaust hypnotically implanted material received either from some hypnotist or from the analytical mind itself when the person has been operating under auto-control [sic].” (DOT, p.69). Also, "It is pertinent to diagnosis whether or not the preclear is highly suggestible or can be hypnotized” (SOS II, p.220). Further, "understanding the mechanism of post-hypnotic suggestion can aid an understanding of aberration.” (DMSMH, p.56); "The next thing an auditor should know well is the effect of hypnotism and drugs, and he should have observed this actually.” (R&D 1, p.307). The auditor should be aware of hypnotism, because, as already cited, "hypnotism is very common in this society” (R&D 1, p.24)."


"Unfortunately, auditors share an ignorance of hypnotism with the general populace and simply parrot Hubbard's calming assurance that "auditing is not a form of hypnosis” or that "auditing removes hypnosis”. Despite their implanted obsession with the meaning of words, Scientologists are largely unable to define the "hypnosis” which auditing supposedly removes. They believe it to be drowsiness or lack of awareness, rather than the heightened state known to hypnotic subjects and touched upon by Hubbard in Dianetics: MSMH: "By suggestion the power of hearing can be tuned down or up so that a person is nearly deaf or can hear pins fall at a great distance”. Most usually, hypnotic trance is a state of heightened awareness which excludes certain perceptions. It is a highly focussed state, often accompanied by a sensation that "the colours in the room are brighter”, as well as spatial dissociation (called "exteriorization” by Scientologists and "depersonalization” by psychiatrists)."


"Suggestion:
Hubbard was ambiguous about suggestion: "We never give positive suggestions” (R&D1, p.48); but "you are putting in positive suggestion whether you want to or not, no matter how careful you are” (R&D1, p.336)."


"Hubbard added "A motto one could use is 'Never believe a hypnotist'" (SOS II, p.228). "


References:NB: page numbers vary in later editions, and some material may have been censored from these editions.
Astounding Science Fiction, May 1950.
Atack, Jon - A Piece of Blue Sky, Lyle Stuart books, 1990.
Freud, Sigmund - the Clarke Lectures in Two Short Accounts of Psycho-Analysis, Penguin books.
Hubbard, L.Ronald, Dianetics - the Modern Science of Mental Health, Hermitage House, 1950; later editions until the 1985 Bridge edition have identical page numbering.
- Dianetics the Evolution of a Science, 1950; AOSH DK Publications, Denmark, 1972.
- Dianetics the Original Thesis, 1951; Scientology Publications Organization, Denmark, 1970.
- Hubbard Dianetics Auditor Course, Bridge, L.A., 1988
- Hubbard Dianetics Seminar, Bridge, L.A., 1988
- Research and Discovery Series:
volume 1, lectures June 1950; Bridge, 1980.
volume 2, lectures July - August 1950; Bridge, 1982.
volume 3, lectures 10 August-8 September, 1950; Bridge, 1982.
volume 4, lectures 23 September-15 November 1950; Bridge, 1982 .
- Science of Survival, 1951; Hubbard College of Scientology, 1967.
- The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology, 1979.
Miller, Russell - Bare-Faced Messiah, Henry Holt, NY or 1987.
Wolfe, Bernard and Rosenthal, Raymond - Hypnotism Comes of Age, Blue Ribbon Books, NY, 1949.
Young, L.E. - 25 Lessons in Hypnotism, Padell Book Co, NY, 1944.
abbreviations used in the text:
AstSF - Astounding Science Fiction, May 1950
DMSMH - Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health
DTOT - Dianetics the Original Thesis
EoS - Dianetics the Evolution of a Science
R&D - Research and Discovery, followed by volume number
SOS - Science of Survival, followed by volume I or II
 

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
The following is a collection of excerpts from a blog post by John P Capitalist and all the quotes are from Hana Whitfield. All bolded words are for emphasis by myself.



"I think most former Scientologists do not understand how vastly different Hubbard’s worldview was from the norm – if there is such a thing – and that in fact it was diametrically opposed.
I thought I knew Hubbard. I studied his writings and listened to his taped lectures seven days a week for a year. I worked in his Scientology and Sea Org organizations as an auditor, case supervisor, technical secretary, a personal aide, a captain of his two larger ships and as his deputy commodore in the United States. I worked closely with him for ten years, some of them up on the Apollo “A” Deck in a small office next to Mary Sue’s Hubbard’s office and three doors away from Hubbard’s “research room” (his office) and I saw him at some of his best and worst moments.


I thought I knew him. But I did not.


Most days, Hubbard projected a vibrant and all knowing persona that kept us in thrall. He had a charm and a kind of glow about him that attracted and MESMERIZED us. We all experienced it. I believe he used it to inspire our confidence in him. And to keep himself believing the arrogant claims he spun about his abilities and accomplishments. He had a way of making everything appear so balanced and ordered and so complete that we believed.

What none of us knew as we gave Hubbard our all was that he lied all the time, on a daily basis … and big time.


He was a self-trained HYPNOTIST, a good one, and he had the “tech” of HYPNOSIS down pat. He learned it while working with wounded veterans in Oak Knoll Hospital after World War II, using standard REGRESSION processes to try to ease their psychological and physical wounds and I believe to figure out what worked. When he saw results, he knew he’d struck gold. He called his technique Dianetics, and wrote about it in his book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (DMSMH). He included his formal HYPNOTIC INDUCTION – “When I count from 1 to 7 your eyes will close …” He even mentioned the person’s eyelids would tremble when they were in TRANCE, a well-known indicator of TRANCE in the mental health field. Yet he loudly and repeatedly denied he was using hypnosis.


Though DMSMH became a blockbuster, the movement was more like a fad, and was as quickly abandoned as other 1950’s fads like Hula-hoops, poodle skirts and competitions to see how many college students could stuff themselves in a telephone booth. Hubbard vowed never again to give away his moneymaking techniques, and he succeeded.


When he incorporated Scientology in 1954, Hubbard had no idea how the human mind really worked. He understood that HYPNOSIS encouraged cooperation and decreased resistance to change, and that it brought about TRANCE states, normal states of awareness that we all experience sometimes several times a day and that for most people are pleasurable – we feel “up,” relaxed, free, energized, and even euphoric. TRANCE states are temporary; they come and go. Settle down on the couch to watch a good movie with a friend and a tub of hot buttered popcorn and soda, and even before the title appears on the screen you will be in a pleasant, anticipatory trance or altered state of awareness. Your attention will be wholly focused on the movie. Your boring job, your car needing an oil change, the upcoming end-of-month bills … and your dog’s visit to the vet for its yearly shots? Well … they’re gone. That is a TRANCE state.
While in TRANCE, and with critical faculties suspended, people become more SUGGESTIBLE to outside influences. It is the best time to sell someone something he or she considers valuable. And it’s exactly what Hubbard did. He got people high on his claims and with auditing and then whisked them away at increasing expense into his own ideology to become super-powered immortal beings.


It is well known that most REPETITIVE techniques – dancing, drumming, singing, exercising, running and jogging, meditating, and many more – bring on these TRANCE states. It is how Hubbard set up his Bridge to Total Freedom. Every auditing process through the Grades, the Clearing Course, and the OT levels consists of REPETITIVE questions and phrases. Back in the early days, we had to audit ourselves through lengthy OT levels ten times, CHANTING our contradictory phrases and visualizing symbols. And does anyone remember those over-used REPETITIVE corrections lists auditors were required to do when something went wrong in an auditing session? Some of my poor preclears actually groaned when I started one … After a while I refused to do them – so much for “standard” tech – and resorted to the simple and much more effective technique of asking the preclear what was going on …


Hubbard’s training courses were the same, packed with REPETITIVE routines like the Training Routines or TRs and e-meter drills. They even contained a “dating drill” in which one student had to imagine a date billions or trillions of years ago and the other poor student had to find it by using the e-meter. And the endless word chains we had to define on course all when we dared to yawn because the tape was so boring … Even Hubbard’s taped lectures, with their long detailed stories and singsong voice had the same effect … TRANCE states."


"Hubbard even indoctrinated us to keep ourselves believing. How many times did he require us to study his policy “Keeping Scientology Working?” All the time. He had us believing that we were responsible for “making things go right.” He had us HYPNOTIZING ourselves.
This was Hubbard displaying his true colors as a narcissist and self-server. He really did not know how not to lie, exaggerate and mislead.


Hubbard understood the game he was playing, the lie he was withholding, and the consequences if the truth came out. As the threat of exposure rose over the years, so did his abuse with ethics because it was always someone else who goofed, who did the wrong thing.
He had to make his game go right and win no matter whom he destroyed in the process." Hana Whitfield
 

Clay Pigeon

Gold Meritorious Patron
A vast wealth of quotes by Hubbard like those presented by Jon Atack in Never Believe a Hypnotist and myself in numerous articles and posts here and at my blog contradict this and the examination of auditing by a vast number of experts in hypnosis, psychology, psychiatry thought reform and cults has agreed that Scientology auditing and very often indoctrination is based on covert hypnosis. You are free to disagree, but if you are disagreeing with such a vast consensus formed by so many different experts on so many fields from the fifties to today you may want to ask what is it that they ALL are seeing that you are not. To be plain many of these people are coming at both Scientology and auditing from different perspectives yet somehow they concur. Why ?

Is there possibly something they know that you don't ?

"is there possibly something they know that [ I ] don't?"


Ohhhhh...

That IS! a very lovely question...

Thankyou so very much for asking that question; I truly dearly LOVE that question.

You can't imagine how excedingly pleasant it will be to answer that question!

I really don't get asked a lot of questions on this board, especially really good questions like this one and I think that's because I'm always responsive to questions and I give highly intelligent, lively, heartfelt, cogent, sequitur and apt responses which at this venue are often seen as perhaps somewhat controversial and likelywill lead some of our cherished colleagues gathered here to advise you thusly:

:announcement: :dontfeedtrolls: :police: :dontfeedtrolls: :prettyplease: :dontfeedtrolls:

but, yes, I soon will take very great pleasure in answering this question...
 

Clay Pigeon

Gold Meritorious Patron
The following is a collection of excerpts from a blog post by John P Capitalist and all the quotes are from Hana Whitfield. All bolded words are for emphasis by myself.



"I think most former Scientologists do not understand how vastly different Hubbard’s worldview was from the norm – if there is such a thing – and that in fact it was diametrically opposed.
I thought I knew Hubbard. I studied his writings and listened to his taped lectures seven days a week for a year. I worked in his Scientology and Sea Org organizations as an auditor, case supervisor, technical secretary, a personal aide, a captain of his two larger ships and as his deputy commodore in the United States. I worked closely with him for ten years, some of them up on the Apollo “A” Deck in a small office next to Mary Sue’s Hubbard’s office and three doors away from Hubbard’s “research room” (his office) and I saw him at some of his best and worst moments.


I thought I knew him. But I did not.


Most days, Hubbard projected a vibrant and all knowing persona that kept us in thrall. He had a charm and a kind of glow about him that attracted and MESMERIZED us. We all experienced it. I believe he used it to inspire our confidence in him. And to keep himself believing the arrogant claims he spun about his abilities and accomplishments. He had a way of making everything appear so balanced and ordered and so complete that we believed.

What none of us knew as we gave Hubbard our all was that he lied all the time, on a daily basis … and big time.


He was a self-trained HYPNOTIST, a good one, and he had the “tech” of HYPNOSIS down pat. He learned it while working with wounded veterans in Oak Knoll Hospital after World War II, using standard REGRESSION processes to try to ease their psychological and physical wounds and I believe to figure out what worked. When he saw results, he knew he’d struck gold. He called his technique Dianetics, and wrote about it in his book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (DMSMH). He included his formal HYPNOTIC INDUCTION – “When I count from 1 to 7 your eyes will close …” He even mentioned the person’s eyelids would tremble when they were in TRANCE, a well-known indicator of TRANCE in the mental health field. Yet he loudly and repeatedly denied he was using hypnosis.


Though DMSMH became a blockbuster, the movement was more like a fad, and was as quickly abandoned as other 1950’s fads like Hula-hoops, poodle skirts and competitions to see how many college students could stuff themselves in a telephone booth. Hubbard vowed never again to give away his moneymaking techniques, and he succeeded.


When he incorporated Scientology in 1954, Hubbard had no idea how the human mind really worked. He understood that HYPNOSIS encouraged cooperation and decreased resistance to change, and that it brought about TRANCE states, normal states of awareness that we all experience sometimes several times a day and that for most people are pleasurable – we feel “up,” relaxed, free, energized, and even euphoric. TRANCE states are temporary; they come and go. Settle down on the couch to watch a good movie with a friend and a tub of hot buttered popcorn and soda, and even before the title appears on the screen you will be in a pleasant, anticipatory trance or altered state of awareness. Your attention will be wholly focused on the movie. Your boring job, your car needing an oil change, the upcoming end-of-month bills … and your dog’s visit to the vet for its yearly shots? Well … they’re gone. That is a TRANCE state.
While in TRANCE, and with critical faculties suspended, people become more SUGGESTIBLE to outside influences. It is the best time to sell someone something he or she considers valuable. And it’s exactly what Hubbard did. He got people high on his claims and with auditing and then whisked them away at increasing expense into his own ideology to become super-powered immortal beings.


It is well known that most REPETITIVE techniques – dancing, drumming, singing, exercising, running and jogging, meditating, and many more – bring on these TRANCE states. It is how Hubbard set up his Bridge to Total Freedom. Every auditing process through the Grades, the Clearing Course, and the OT levels consists of REPETITIVE questions and phrases. Back in the early days, we had to audit ourselves through lengthy OT levels ten times, CHANTING our contradictory phrases and visualizing symbols. And does anyone remember those over-used REPETITIVE corrections lists auditors were required to do when something went wrong in an auditing session? Some of my poor preclears actually groaned when I started one … After a while I refused to do them – so much for “standard” tech – and resorted to the simple and much more effective technique of asking the preclear what was going on …


Hubbard’s training courses were the same, packed with REPETITIVE routines like the Training Routines or TRs and e-meter drills. They even contained a “dating drill” in which one student had to imagine a date billions or trillions of years ago and the other poor student had to find it by using the e-meter. And the endless word chains we had to define on course all when we dared to yawn because the tape was so boring … Even Hubbard’s taped lectures, with their long detailed stories and singsong voice had the same effect … TRANCE states."


"Hubbard even indoctrinated us to keep ourselves believing. How many times did he require us to study his policy “Keeping Scientology Working?” All the time. He had us believing that we were responsible for “making things go right.” He had us HYPNOTIZING ourselves.
This was Hubbard displaying his true colors as a narcissist and self-server. He really did not know how not to lie, exaggerate and mislead.


Hubbard understood the game he was playing, the lie he was withholding, and the consequences if the truth came out. As the threat of exposure rose over the years, so did his abuse with ethics because it was always someone else who goofed, who did the wrong thing.
He had to make his game go right and win no matter whom he destroyed in the process." Hana Whitfield
Just by the way...

I wouldn't tell "john P. Capitalist" nor Hana Whitfield to stuff it

However...

McGill (et. al.) can stuff it.
 

Gib

Crusader
<snorts>

Yeah, been there, done that. Three times over. And you know what? I never got any grade chart auditing or auditor training while on staff (that I didn't personally pay for.)

And those noble Sea Org members that slaved for 10, 20, 30 years and reached the exalted level of maybe Grade 0. Yeah, thanks for the exchange in abundance Ronny.
yah, what a crock of shit. When I got the Debbie Cook email, I didn't know she left the Sea Org, I'm like WTF, why would she leave, she's the elite of the elite as Hubbard stated,

now I'm like ROFLMAO.
 

Gib

Crusader
The following is a collection of excerpts from a blog post by John P Capitalist and all the quotes are from Hana Whitfield. All bolded words are for emphasis by myself.



"I think most former Scientologists do not understand how vastly different Hubbard’s worldview was from the norm – if there is such a thing – and that in fact it was diametrically opposed.
I thought I knew Hubbard. I studied his writings and listened to his taped lectures seven days a week for a year. I worked in his Scientology and Sea Org organizations as an auditor, case supervisor, technical secretary, a personal aide, a captain of his two larger ships and as his deputy commodore in the United States. I worked closely with him for ten years, some of them up on the Apollo “A” Deck in a small office next to Mary Sue’s Hubbard’s office and three doors away from Hubbard’s “research room” (his office) and I saw him at some of his best and worst moments.


I thought I knew him. But I did not.


Most days, Hubbard projected a vibrant and all knowing persona that kept us in thrall. He had a charm and a kind of glow about him that attracted and MESMERIZED us. We all experienced it. I believe he used it to inspire our confidence in him. And to keep himself believing the arrogant claims he spun about his abilities and accomplishments. He had a way of making everything appear so balanced and ordered and so complete that we believed.

What none of us knew as we gave Hubbard our all was that he lied all the time, on a daily basis … and big time.


He was a self-trained HYPNOTIST, a good one, and he had the “tech” of HYPNOSIS down pat. He learned it while working with wounded veterans in Oak Knoll Hospital after World War II, using standard REGRESSION processes to try to ease their psychological and physical wounds and I believe to figure out what worked. When he saw results, he knew he’d struck gold. He called his technique Dianetics, and wrote about it in his book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (DMSMH). He included his formal HYPNOTIC INDUCTION – “When I count from 1 to 7 your eyes will close …” He even mentioned the person’s eyelids would tremble when they were in TRANCE, a well-known indicator of TRANCE in the mental health field. Yet he loudly and repeatedly denied he was using hypnosis.


Though DMSMH became a blockbuster, the movement was more like a fad, and was as quickly abandoned as other 1950’s fads like Hula-hoops, poodle skirts and competitions to see how many college students could stuff themselves in a telephone booth. Hubbard vowed never again to give away his moneymaking techniques, and he succeeded.


When he incorporated Scientology in 1954, Hubbard had no idea how the human mind really worked. He understood that HYPNOSIS encouraged cooperation and decreased resistance to change, and that it brought about TRANCE states, normal states of awareness that we all experience sometimes several times a day and that for most people are pleasurable – we feel “up,” relaxed, free, energized, and even euphoric. TRANCE states are temporary; they come and go. Settle down on the couch to watch a good movie with a friend and a tub of hot buttered popcorn and soda, and even before the title appears on the screen you will be in a pleasant, anticipatory trance or altered state of awareness. Your attention will be wholly focused on the movie. Your boring job, your car needing an oil change, the upcoming end-of-month bills … and your dog’s visit to the vet for its yearly shots? Well … they’re gone. That is a TRANCE state.
While in TRANCE, and with critical faculties suspended, people become more SUGGESTIBLE to outside influences. It is the best time to sell someone something he or she considers valuable. And it’s exactly what Hubbard did. He got people high on his claims and with auditing and then whisked them away at increasing expense into his own ideology to become super-powered immortal beings.


It is well known that most REPETITIVE techniques – dancing, drumming, singing, exercising, running and jogging, meditating, and many more – bring on these TRANCE states. It is how Hubbard set up his Bridge to Total Freedom. Every auditing process through the Grades, the Clearing Course, and the OT levels consists of REPETITIVE questions and phrases. Back in the early days, we had to audit ourselves through lengthy OT levels ten times, CHANTING our contradictory phrases and visualizing symbols. And does anyone remember those over-used REPETITIVE corrections lists auditors were required to do when something went wrong in an auditing session? Some of my poor preclears actually groaned when I started one … After a while I refused to do them – so much for “standard” tech – and resorted to the simple and much more effective technique of asking the preclear what was going on …


Hubbard’s training courses were the same, packed with REPETITIVE routines like the Training Routines or TRs and e-meter drills. They even contained a “dating drill” in which one student had to imagine a date billions or trillions of years ago and the other poor student had to find it by using the e-meter. And the endless word chains we had to define on course all when we dared to yawn because the tape was so boring … Even Hubbard’s taped lectures, with their long detailed stories and singsong voice had the same effect … TRANCE states."


"Hubbard even indoctrinated us to keep ourselves believing. How many times did he require us to study his policy “Keeping Scientology Working?” All the time. He had us believing that we were responsible for “making things go right.” He had us HYPNOTIZING ourselves.
This was Hubbard displaying his true colors as a narcissist and self-server. He really did not know how not to lie, exaggerate and mislead.


Hubbard understood the game he was playing, the lie he was withholding, and the consequences if the truth came out. As the threat of exposure rose over the years, so did his abuse with ethics because it was always someone else who goofed, who did the wrong thing.
He had to make his game go right and win no matter whom he destroyed in the process." Hana Whitfield
here's the thing Mockingbird, Hana said she studied his writings and listened to his taped lectures 7 days a week for a year. That's were the hypnosis takes place, but it ain't hypnosis, it's rhetoric - the art of persuasion.

I think Hana like most of us, fell for Hubbard's words of sublime and rhetoric. and by rhetoric I mean Hubbard's use of ethos, pathos and logos and all other means of persuasion. Hubbard created in our minds a altruistic world of clear and OT coupled with his ideas of removing past moments of pain which supposedly hold us back or cripple us.

Of course, it's all a crock of shit, as you know.

I think this whole hypnosis thing is just a diversion to sound logical by Hubbard.

What's interesting in the 1950 letters between Hubbard and Campbell and between Heinlin and Campbell, never once was Oak Knoll hospital mentioned. Hana, Jon, Arnie, never read those letters, as well as a whole bunch of others.

Here's what interesting too, when DM ordered every scientologist to do the Basics, why isn't that like Hana reading and listening to Hubbard 7 days a week for a year?

My oh my, how DM tried to follow Hubbard. Slimy bastard he is.
 

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
here's the thing Mockingbird, Hana said she studied his writings and listened to his taped lectures 7 days a week for a year. That's were the hypnosis takes place, but it ain't hypnosis, it's rhetoric - the art of persuasion.

I think Hana like most of us, fell for Hubbard's words of sublime and rhetoric. and by rhetoric I mean Hubbard's use of ethos, pathos and logos and all other means of persuasion. Hubbard created in our minds a altruistic world of clear and OT coupled with his ideas of removing past moments of pain which supposedly hold us back or cripple us.

Of course, it's all a crock of shit, as you know.

I think this whole hypnosis thing is just a diversion to sound logical by Hubbard.

What's interesting in the 1950 letters between Hubbard and Campbell and between Heinlin and Campbell, never once was Oak Knoll hospital mentioned. Hana, Jon, Arnie, never read those letters, as well as a whole bunch of others.

Here's what interesting too, when DM ordered every scientologist to do the Basics, why isn't that like Hana reading and listening to Hubbard 7 days a week for a year?

My oh my, how DM tried to follow Hubbard. Slimy bastard he is.
I SAW the eye flutter attributed to hypnosis both in indoctrination and when I was doing the Hubbard Dianetics Auditor course as a student.

The field of hypnosis has long recognized that as hypnotic phenomena as well as the host of phenomena Hubbard attributed to his fictional barriers to study.


from lack of mass:
squashed H postural slump
bent H muscle relaxation
dead H lethargy
bored S /H low energy Crucial boredom can also show a closed mind and that prohibits thought reform as the person is just going through the motions and not really focusing on what is in front of them : it can interrupt the thought reform so Hubbard has a bored student focus attention and look for Mus to break the boredom Looking for Mus can create anxiety which is more receptive to hypnosis
exasperated S /H frustrated; easily agitated
headaches S stress headache
stomach that feels funny common stress symptom
dizzy S common stress symptom
eyes that hurt S or H symptom of BOTH
from too steep a gradient:
confusion S/H shows hypnosis via cognitive dissonance
and reelingness S /H overwhelmed;losing control
misunderstood word
blank S/H shows entering or leaving hypnotic states in moment of cognitive dissonance
washed out H attention focused
not there H intense concentration attention fixation
nervous hysteria S /H anxiety aids hypnotic induction
not remember reading H amnesia; deep trance
 

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
By the way sublime writing and art evoke ecstasy a TRANCE state.

From Wikipedia entry Ecstasy

"Ecstasy (from Ancient Greek ἔκστασις ékstasis, meaning 'outside of oneself') is a subjective experience of total involvement of the subject, with an object of their awareness. In classical Greek literature it refers to removal of the mind or body "from its normal place of function."
Total involvement with an object of interest is not an ordinary experience because of being aware of other objects, thus ecstasy is an example of an altered state of consciousness characterized by diminished awareness of other objects or the total lack of the awareness of surroundings and everything around the object. The word is also used to refer to any heightened state of consciousness or intensely pleasant experience. It is also used more specifically to denote states of awareness of non-ordinary mental spaces, which may be perceived as spiritual (the latter type of ecstasy often takes the form of religious ecstasy)."

"From a psychological perspective, ecstasy is a loss of self-control and sometimes a temporary loss of consciousness, which is often associated with religious mysticism, sexual intercourse and the use of certain drugs. For the duration of the ecstasy the ecstatic is out of touch with ordinary life and is capable neither of communication with other people nor of undertaking normal actions. The experience can be brief in physical time, or it can go on for hours. Subjective perception of time, space or self may strongly change or disappear during ecstasy. For instance, if one is concentrating on a physical task, then any intellectual thoughts may cease. On the other hand, making a spirit journey in an ecstatic trance involves the cessation of voluntary bodily movement."

""In everyday language, the word 'ecstasy' denotes an intense, euphoric experience. For obvious reasons, it is rarely used in a scientific context; it is a concept that is extremely hard to define."


Regarding The Sublime (Literary)

"The sublime in literature refers to use of language and description that excites thoughts and emotions beyond ordinary experience. Though often associated with grandeur, the sublime may also refer to the grotesque or other extraordinary experiences that "take us beyond ourselves."


"The sublime in literature refers to use of language and description that excites thoughts and emotions beyond ordinary experience. ... Longinus holds that the goal of a writer should be to produce a form of ecstasy. "
 
Last edited:

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
Hypnosis in Scientology from Scientology 101


Here are a few quotes from the website Scientology 101 (I don't know the name of the author or I would give credit to them)


These are regarding hypnosis in Scientology.


"Hypnosis in Scientology

Perhaps this all sounds a little far-fetched to you? Perhaps you think that sane people cannot be manipulated in such a way. Well one should also keep in mind that L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, was a trained hypnotist and that he knew very well how to manipulate the human mind. In his earlier books he made reference to the fact of his use of hypnosis, but I think these parts have been omitted from the latest editions of his books.

The earliest definition of hypnotism, as was given by James Braid who coined the term, is:
“The induction of a mental concentration in which the powers of the mind are so much engrossed with a single idea or train of thought, as to render the individual unconscious of, or indifferently conscious to, all other ideas, impressions, or trains of thought.”

—James Braid, Hypnotic Therapeutics, 1853

How could I possibly state that Hubbard is hypnotising people through his books and lectures? Come on, that sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Well, let’s take a look at how he engrosses the mind of a Scientologist so thoroughly that they cannot be conscious of anything opposing it:

Hubbard advocates, and sometimes even mandates, that one doesn’t read newspapers, that one doesn’t do any other spiritual practices, that one doesn’t listen to psychologists, that one disconnects from friends and family who disagree with Scientology, that one should spend all of one’s free time at the org (Scientology “Organization”), that the best thing to do is to become a dedicated Sea Organization member (by signing a billion year staff contact, no less), that Scientology is the only solution for mankind’s problems etc.

This concentration of attention is, purely by definition, a method of hypnosis. Hubbard used the techniques of hypnosis to get one hooked on Scientology.


Ron the Hypnotist

On the home page I mentioned how L. Ron Hubbard was a trained hypnotist, and how he used hypnosis to create his following of people. On this page are more examples of quotes from Hubbard that further illustrate exactly how he did this.

To reiterrate, the earliest definition of hypnotism is this:
“The real origin and essence of the hypnotic condition is the induction of a mental concentration in which the powers of the mind are so much engrossed with a single idea or train of thought, as to render the individual unconscious of, or indifferently conscious to, all other ideas, impressions, or trains of thought.”
—James Braid, Hypnotic Therapeutics, 1853


Other examples of how Hubbard concentrated Scientologist’s attention on Scientology and Scientology alone, i.e. hypnotised Scientologists, include the following:
(BE CAREFUL WHEN READING THESE TO NOT ONCE AGAIN FALL INTO THE TRAP OF BELIEVING WHAT HE IS SAYING HERE!)


I’ll start with the classic, as it is the one that gets drummed in the most:
“We’re not playing some minor game in Scientology. It isn’t cute or something to do for lack of something better.

The whole agonized future of the planet, every man, woman and child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology.

This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the trap now, we may never again have another chance.

Remember, this is our first chance to do so in all the endless trillions of years of the past.”
(L. Ron Hubbard HCO PL 7 February 1965 Keeping Scientology Working Series 1)


“Will you take advantage of the carefully marked trail upward? I hope you do, my friends. For if you don’t, it will be very lonely in the sky”.
(LRH ED 347 INT, RJ 37)


(REMEMBER WHAT I SAID: DON’T FALL INTO THE TRAP OF BELIEVING HIM AGAIN! HIS CHARM, HIS WAY OF MAKING YOU SEEM IMPORTANT, HIS WAY OF MAKING IT SEEM LIKE YOU INVOLVED IN THE MOST IMPORTANT MOVEMENT ON EARTH, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ADDICTIVE HOOKS WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO KEEP YOU IN! BE COGNIZANT OF THESE FACTS WHEN YOU READ HIS HYPNOTIC WORDS! THERE IS LIFE AFTER SCIENTOLOGY)


“In this time and place – for possibly just a little while, we have this chance. To go free and to make it. Planets and cultures are frail things. They do not endure. I strongly advise you work hard at it – don’t waste this brief breath in eternity.”
(LRH ED 342 INT, RJ 35)


“I expect and need your help to carry out the broad mission of de-contaminating this area of the universe”.
(An Open Letter To All Clears)


“The ultimate product of Scientology is a universe that is decent and happy to live in, not degenerated and made miserable by suppressives as it has been.”
(HCO PL 4 December 1966 EXPANSION: THEORY OF POLICY)


“A post in this organization is a trust. Its duty is to keep the peace, do the job and get the show on the road. If anyone cannot conceive of his post as a trust with this mission, he has no business here.” (SEC ED No. 215 A STAFF POST)


“We must come to orderly cause-point on every post. We must, we must, we must.
We’re playing for blood. The stake is Earth. If we don’t make it nobody will. We’re the sole agency in existence today that can forestall the erasure of all civilization or bring a new better one. If we aren’t willing to be hanged for our mistakes we’ll surely fry for them.” (HCO PL 22 May 1959 Issue II CENTRAL ORGANIZATION EFFICIENCY)


“Dilettante = One who interests himself in an art or science merely as a pastime and without serious study.


In an org, this manifests itself with ‘people should live a little.’ ‘One needs a rest from Scientology.’ ‘One should do something else, too’. All that kind of jazz.
Ask what they do the other nights. Bowling. Horse racing.


Boy, you better maul the case folders of staff. You have a suppressive aboard. Maybe six.
Scientology, that saves lives, is a modern miracle, is being compared to bowling. Get it?
That org or portion just isn’t serious. Scientology is an idle club to it, an old lady’s sewing circle.
(HCO PL 16 May 1965 Issue II INDICATORS OF ORGS)


(ARE YOU BREAKING FREE OF HIS CHARM YET, OR GETTING MORE INTO IT? REMEMBER THAT ALL CULT LEADERS HAVE USED THEIR CHARISMA AS THEIR PRIMARY WEAPON TO MAKE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE DO STUPID THINGS. SEE HIS WORDS FOR WHAT THEY ARE–LIES)


“Scientology is the only game in the universe where everybody wins.

We respect the other fellow whatever his status and give him his right to win the biggest prize of all, himself or herself. That prize is won by dedicated, exact application of Scientology and full support of our mission in our organization and the public.

Organized, we can each one win the biggest prize that can be offered – a full recovery of self.
There is no greater game in the universe than Scientology, for it is the only game in which everybody wins. And that places it far above all other games and makes it the game of games where everybody gets the ultimate prize of self . . .” (HCO PL 18 April 1965 Issue I CONTESTS AND PRIZES)


“I have to be, above all things, effective and cannot fall short of being effective or explain ineffectiveness away.

I never compromise with a situation to be agreeable.

This may seem to be a brutal way to go about doing things but remember this: We are a few and we have an enormous area to salvage that long ago went down for the third time. If we fail, it is improbable the job will ever again be done as, on evidence that the problem still exists, it has never before been solved in all the long past ages. So we really can’t take chances. Not with the whole human race. So we do our jobs and see that our jobs are done. We have a trust which, if we fail it, condemns ourselves, our friends, our future to continued oblivion. So we mustn’t fail. Or permit others to fail. And that is how and why we ARE getting the job done”. (HCO PL 12 September 1967 POST, HANDLING OF)


“If we’re determined we will make it, we will make it.” (HCO PL 23 April 1965 Issue III PROBLEMS)


“This goes directly back to man’s failure to solve the riddle of himself.
We must raise our sights as to what we expect from ourselves and each other.Only then can we arrest and then reverse the decline”. (HCO PL 24 October 1971 PERFORMANCE)


“The whole human race is about to start going up. They’ll move to the degree you deliver and no faster. So let’s get the show on the road”. (HCO PL 28 February 1965 Issue I DELIVER)


“We’re working to provide a safe environment for Scientology and Scientologists in orgs everywhere.

The dangerous environment of the wog world, of injustice, sudden dismissals, war, atomic bombs, will only persist and trouble us if we fail to spread our safe environment across the world.” (HCO PL 5 April 1965 Issue III SCIENTOLOGY MAKES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT)


“The being who is guilty knows with certainty that he is offending against the future of all, no matter what his surface manifestations or conduct. Further, while wog law at the worst can only cause him or her some pain and a body by execution or one’s lifetime loss of liberty, we threaten his eternity.


Even the fellow who could push the button on atomic war knows, really, it’s only one lifetime per person he is blowing up, only one phase in Earth’s existence he or she is destroying. That we exist here could actually restrain him. The mere destruction of a planet might not, as it’s temporary.


You are threatening somebody with oblivion for eternity by expulsion from Scientology.” (HCO PL 29 April 1965 Issue III ETHICS: REVIEW)


“GET RID OF DISTRACTIONS FROM SCIENTOLOGY in your org.

SOFT SELL means vaguely maundering about your product. Example: ‘Scientology sometimes makes people worry a bit less.’


Knock off the soft sell and flubbed delivery.
It’s a new civilization we’re after and we’ll do it.” (HCO PL 2 June 1965 ORG ETHICS AND TECH)


(“IF YOU TELL A LIE BIG ENOUGH AND KEEP REPEATING IT, PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO BELIEVE IT” –JOSEPH GOEBBELS, WHO WAS ADOLF HITLER’S NAZI MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA)


“We are not in the business of being good boys and girls. We’re in the business of going free and getting the org production roaring. Nothing else is of any interest then to Ethics but (a) getting tech in, getting it run and getting it run right and (b) getting production up and the org roaring along.

In short, a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic is up and can’t sneeze without a chop if it’s down.” (HCO PL 1 September 1965 Issue VII ETHICS PROTECTION)

“The purpose of Ethics is:
TO REMOVE COUNTER-INTENTIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.
And having accomplished that the purpose becomes:
TO REMOVE OTHER-INTENTIONEDNESS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT
The person who enters a Scientology group to then sell other-answer is of course an enemy”. (HCO PL 18 June 1968 ETHICS)

“We’re not now in this for play. Our personal futures depend on keeping going and making no major flubs. It isn’t a question of is there something else. There isn’t. Nobody can be half in and half out of Scientology. Scientologists are Scientologists no matter what they do for a living.


The prize is regaining self and going free. The penalty for our failure is condemnation to an eternity of pain and amnesia for ourselves and for our friends and for this planet.
If we fail, we’ve had it. It’s not just a matter of getting killed. It’s a matter of getting killed and killed and killed life after life forever more.

Those guys up there mean business. We’ve got to match or better their energy level and dedication or we lose.

We’ve been given a priceless chance. We must make good. We haven’t any time for doubts or maunderings.

We’re the elite of Planet Earth, but that’s only saying we’re the not quite gone in the graveyard of the long gone.

Somehow, despite our condition and the degraded environment we’re in, we’ve got to keep the dedication and the guts to carry through no matter what comes.”
(HCO PL 30 July 1963 CURRENT PLANNING)

“And make nothing out of the enemies who have plagued us for 200,000,000,000 years. And who, if we do not this time succeed, will plague us for 200,000,000,000 more.
THIS is our chance.
Make something of it”. (Excerpt from HCO INFO LETTER, February 25, 1962 It Can be Done)


In this time and in this place – for possibly just a little while, we have a chance. To go free and to make it. Planets and cultures are frail things. They do not endure.
I strongly advise you work hard at it – don’t waste this brief breath in eternity.
For that is your future – eternity”. (LRH ED 342 From Clear to Eternity 9 May 1982)


In fifty thousand years of history on this planet alone, man never evolved a workable system. It is doubtful if, in foreseeable history, he will ever evolve another.
Man is caught in a huge and complex labyrinth. To get out of it requires that he follow the closely-taped path of Scientology.

Scientology, exactly and correctly followed, takes the person up and out of the mess.
Scientology is a new thing – it is a road out. There has not been one.
Scientology is the only workable system man has. It has already taken people toward higher IQ, better lives and all that. No other system has. So realize that it has no competition.
Don’t let your party down. By whatever means, keep them on the route. And they’ll be free. If you don’t, they won’t. (HCO PL 14 February 1965 Safeguarding Technology, Keeping Scientology Working Series 4)


“The Product of an org is well-taught students and thoroughly audited pcs. When the product vanishes, so does the org. The orgs must survive for the sake of this planet”. (HCOPL 17 June 1970B Issue I TECHNICAL DEGRADES)


“We have some time since passed the point of achieving uniformly workable technology. The only thing now is getting the technology applied.” (HCO PL 7 February 1965 KSW Series 1)

“Orgs are in the very new, for this universe, business of setting people free. So, just do it, man, do it!” (HCO PL 13 January 1983 THE BUSINESS OF ORGS)


“THE OBJECT IS TOTALLY FREED BEINGS.
You see, we are not dealing with “just another self-help subject” or a “make people feel better”.
For the first time ever – and this is confirmed with careful historical research – the tech exists to reverse the chaos. Where we are this instant in time is at the reverse point of the universe. You are the one who will make it happen.

You have the tech now; you have the policy. It is you who are applying it. And by applying it, you have the power to reverse the dwindling spiral that has gone on without pause for more years than you can get into an Earth calculator.

For the first time ever you have this chance. And it is you who, just by knowing and using relentlessly the policy and tech, will make it happen.

It may seem large and awesome but it is a fact. You are not engaged in anything superficial.
And no objective worth obtaining was ever achieved without some barriers arising or industrious dedication.

So: Make it happen! The stars wait!” (HCO PL 31 January 1983 THE REASON FOR ORGS)

(HE MAKES IT SOUND SO GLORIOUS, BUT IT WAS A @*#ING NIGHTMARE WHEN I WAS INVOLVED IN HIS CULT!)

“Only a Scientology Organization has an unlimited horizon”. (HCO PL4 December 1966 EXPANSION: THEORY OF POLICY)

“Auditors have since the first session of Scientology been the only individuals on this planet, in this universe capable of freeing man.” (HCO PL 31 May 1968 Issue II AUDITORS)


“Throughout the ages, man has struggled with the subjects of right and wrong and ethics and justice.

Unfortunately, until now, there has been no workable solution, as evidenced by the declining ethical level of society.

The breakthrough in Scientology is that we do have the basic technology of ethics.
This is a brand new discovery.; before Scientology it had never before seen the light of day, anywhere.” (HCO PL 12 July 1980R THE BASICS OF ETHICS)

“You are a clear. This state has not previously been attained in this universe and we must work towards getting more people – many more people – up to this level.

I expect and need your help to carry out the broad mission of de-contaminating this area of the universe”. (An Open Letter to all Clears by L. Ron Hubbard)

“In this minute particle of time we have the opportunity to reverse the downward spiral of life.
There is no longer any question if it is the right road.

It is no longer a question of whether standard ethics and policy work.
It is only a question of whether or not YOU apply them.” (LRH ED 347 INT 31 December 1982)
“. . . Dianetics and Scientology are the most valuable service on the planet . . .” (HCO PL 26 September 1979 Issue III COPYWRITING)


“If the Captain does not KNOW that Advanced Courses are the most valuable service on the planet he will not be able to understand HARD SELL. THEREFORE HE MUST REALIZE: That life insurance, houses, cars, stocks, bonds, college savings, are all transitory and impermanent and based on things not surviving, or on things that are in fact being destroyed.
Advanced Courses rehabilitate the Thetan to his OT abilities and last forever and give immortality.

‘Hard Sell’ is based on knowing and promoting in this line (TRUTH!) and not being reasonable about people who want ‘other things’ or ‘other practices’. There is nothing to compare with Advanced Courses. They are infinitely valuable and transcend time itself.” (Flag Mission Order 375, 14 August 1970)

“You see, despite inferences to the contrary, this tech has not been available before anywhere and was not even known.

It is the route, which if purely used, uncorrupted and unperverted, will bring you at last to the vast free vistas of freedom and truth and the glory of being really you.” (LRH ED 348 INT Ron’s Journal 37, 13 March 1983)

“The business of Scientology involves the future of this population and planet and only the very insane would tamper with that.

I have been researching upper OT levels and I can tell you this very plainly: If Scn doesn’t make it worldwide you’ve had it – yes, I mean YOU.
One is not working for just this life. He is working for any future life AT ALL”.(HCO PL 14 March 1982, FINANCIAL IRREGULARITIES)

“No such knowledge has ever existed and no such results have ever before been attainable by Man as those which can be reached by a study of this brief volume.

This book is a summation, if brief, of the results of 50,000 years of thinking men. Their materials, researched and capped by a quarter century of original search by L. Ron Hubbard, have brought the humanities, so long outdistanced by the “exact sciences”, into a state of equality, if not superiority, to physics, chemistry and mathematics.

What has been attempted by a thousand universities and foundations at a cost of billions has been completed quietly here.

This IS how life works.

The use or neglect of this material may well determine the use or neglect of the atomic bomb by Man.

To a Scientologist, the real barbarism of Earth is STUPIDITY.
There is not much Earth time. We must work.
The criminal is ignorant and stupid. Ignorance and stupidity may therefore be called criminal.
There is not much Earth time in which to distribute this knowledge. This is THE solution to our barbarism out of which we would lose all. Scientology works. WE must work, all of us.” (Fundamentals of Thought, 1975 printing, Introduction)


“With Scientology man can prevent insanity, criminality and war. It is for the betterment of man.
The only race that matters at this moment is the one being run between Scientology and the atomic bomb. The history of man, as has been said by well-known authorities, may well depend upon which one wins”.(Fundamentals of Thought, 1975 printing, Chapter 12 Exact Processes)


“Scientology is the most vital movement on Earth today”. (Fundamentals of Thought, 1975 printing, The Aims of Scientology)

(REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT. CAN ANYONE SAY “BRAINWASHING”?)


“If it isn’t in an HCOB or an HCO PL or recorded on a tape in my voice, it isn’t tech or policy. (HCO PL 16 April 1965 KSW Series 22 THE “HIDDEN DATA LINE”
”YOU CAN ONLY BE GIVEN A COURT OR COMM EV FOR THINGS THAT VIOLATE POLICY.
THEY CAN ONLY BE DISCIPLINED OR GIVEN COURTS OR COMM EVs FOR VIOLATIONS OF HCO BULLETINS, LRH TAPES OR ISSUES.
IF IT ISN’T WRITTEN IT ISN’T TRUE”. (HCO PL 13 JANUARY 1979 ORDERS, ILLEGAL AND CROSS)

“But ALL policy exists solely to get the job done . . .
Disagreement with policy is disagreement with getting the job done.”
(HCO PL 19 July 1965 Issue I POLICY, HOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE WHO QUOTE POLICY TO SHOW YOU THEY CAN’T FOLLOW IT)

“I am the source of Dianetics and Scientology tech, know-how and org form.” (LRH ED 67 INT HOW TO RAISE STATS)

“You’ll never clear the planet sitting around here worrying. Remember the old maxim? When all else fails, do what Ron said.” (LRH ED 49RA INT ORGANIZATION PROGRAM NO. 1)
THANK GOD THAT’S DONE WITH. NOW WE CAN ALL GET BACK TO THE REAL WORLD…" end quote Scientology 101
 

mockingbird

Silver Meritorious Patron
Some people might say hypnosis is not part of rhetoric but by the definitions of the terms hypnosis is a part of rhetoric.
 
Top