Scientology statement on the anti-Semitic remarks by its ally, Louis Farrakhan?

[JBWriter]

You have got to be kidding.

Certainly racism towards blacks is an American Scientologist thing.

But Scientologist's anti-Semitism is not just an American thing.

The anti-Semitism among Scientologists far exceeds what it is in America.

And I know three German Scientologists, all OTs, who tried to convince me that the SPs on the planet were the Jews.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Thanks, TAJ.

I'd no idea this line of thought existed within Co$. (Or is this thought true by Indie/FZers as well? :confused2

JB

 

[Gadfly]

You have got to be kidding.

Certainly racism towards blacks is an American Scientologist thing.

But Scientologist's anti-Semitism is not just an American thing.

The anti-Semitism among Scientologists far exceeds what it is in America.

And I know three German Scientologists, all OTs, who tried to convince me that the SPs on the planet were the Jews.

The Anabaptist Jacques

You are serious?

Back when I was involved these were a few of the key regges and FSMs:

Fred Schwartz - Flag Reg

Louis Schwartz - Flag Reg

Mike Fine - Flag Reg

Barry Klein - Flag FSM

I knew quite a few Jewish people on staff.

In terms of this idea that the Jews are the key SPs on the planet, this seems to stem from taking Hubbard's ideas on the international bankers being the key SPs on Earth, and mixing this up with other conspiracy notions, such as:

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Jewish plan for global domination)

If there is such an anti-Semitic tendency within some aspect of Scientology, I think it is NOT based directly on any Hubbard spew.

Note: There is a large body of material delineating the network of power and control that stems from international banking and central bankers. Hubbard STOLE these ideas and called it his own "research". For example, the John Birch Society (Gary Allen: None Dare Call It Conspiracy) had been moving in this direction for a long time. Ralph Epperson wrote in detail about such things (and it is not ALL hogwash):

The Unseen Hand: An Introduction Into the Conspiratorial View of History, 1982

But also, yes, racists and other assorted morons grab onto this information and spin it accordingly.

 

[JBWriter]

I wish the Jews here in USA would wake up about Scientology. Perhaps this will help.

Some American Jews, apparently, are aware of the connection between NOI & Co$... (Link: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...rs-Scientology&p=742147&viewfull=1#post742147 )...but I haven't seen anything in the MSM to suggest Co$ and/or scientology itself is anti-Semetic. Until TAJ's post above, I'd never thought it could be true, so IMO it's worth a bit more time/effort to research the issue.

JB

 

[Telepathetic]

Some American Jews, apparently, are aware of the connection between NOI & Co$... (Link: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...rs-Scientology&p=742147&viewfull=1#post742147 )...but I haven't seen anything in the MSM to suggest Co$ and/or scientology itself is anti-Semetic. Until TAJ's post above, I'd never thought it could be true, so IMO it's worth a bit more time/effort to research the issue.

JB

We would have never dared to express an anti-Semitic sentiment in our Org but only because our Reg was Jewish and we definitely didn't want to piss her off. :wink2:

TP

 

[Lone Star]

Its not the Jews who are at fault......its the Amish!!!

 

[The Anabaptist Jacques]

You are serious?

Back when I was involved these were a few of the key regges and FSMs:

Fred Schwartz - Flag Reg

Louis Schwartz - Flag Reg

Mike Fine - Flag Reg

Barry Klein - Flag FSM

I knew quite a few Jewish people on staff.

In terms of this idea that the Jews are the key SPs on the planet, this seems to stem from taking Hubbard's ideas on the international bankers being the key SPs on Earth, and mixing this up with other conspiracy notions, such as:

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Jewish plan for global domination)

If there is such an anti-Semitic tendency within some aspect of Scientology, I think it is NOT based directly on any Hubbard spew.

Note: There is a large body of material delineating the network of power and control that stems from international banking and central bankers. Hubbard STOLE these ideas and called it his own "research". For example, the John Birch Society (Gary Allen: None Dare Call It Conspiracy) had been moving in this direction for a long time. Ralph Epperson wrote in detail about such things (and it is not ALL hogwash):

The Unseen Hand: An Introduction Into the Conspiratorial View of History, 1982

But also, yes, racists and other assorted morons grab onto this information and spin it accordingly.

About six years ago I was talking with an OTIII who was a long time Scientologist.

He was praising Eustace Mullins.

I told him that Eustace Mullins was in all practice sense a Nazi.

I had a copy of Mullins' book "The Biological Jew."

This is the book where he forwards the Nazi's line that Jews are actually not human, that they are actually a subspecies of parasites that takes the form of humans so they can live off and among humans and causing decay among the hosts species (humans).

Two days later I saw him again. I thought for sure this would convince him.

He said to me that the book is very interesting and that Mullins has a good point.

I was shocked and I asked him if he was crazy.

He said, "I'm not saying that it is every single Jew."

Jump forward into the mid-1980s. OSA or the GO, I forget what it was called at the time, held an event at the home of a wealth local Scientologists in Clearwater.

At the event the GO or OSA spokesman told the crowd that the IRS was a private organization that collected money for a few Jewish families that run the world.

I shouted out "That's a bunch of bullshit" and was KR'ed by several people in the crowd.

I found out about the KRs at my sec check (naturally, nobody sent me a copy)

And about two years before that in the house I was living in with other Scientologists, the 2D of one of the people living there was an OY and he showed me this booklet he wrote about how the Jews were responsible for the decline in civilization.

His 2D was an Israeli girl.

I have other stories, some even more recent, but I will pass on them.

I won't even get into the Holocaust deniers I've met among Scientologists

The ones I talked to said that the psyches were behind Hitler yet at the same time deny the Holocaust even happened.

There is enough cognitive dissonance within Scientology itself for these people to believe anything they are told.

Yes, much had to do with the conspiracy theories about international bankers and RJ 67---but they believe it and it is still prevalent in Scientology.

And I think the connection to Farrakhan will only bring it front and center again.

Heck, that may even been what made him appealing to Scientology in the first place.

I always hope that when I see a Scientologist spokesman on TV that the interviewer will ask him what he thinks about the Jews.

Then there will be hell to pay.

The Anabaptist Jacques

 

[Royal Prince Xenu]

You are serious?

Back when I was involved these were a few of the key regges and FSMs:
Fred Schwartz - Flag Reg
Louis Schwartz - Flag Reg
Mike Fine - Flag Reg
Barry Klein - Flag FSM

I knew quite a few Jewish people on staff.

In terms of this idea that the Jews are the key SPs on the planet, this seems to stem from taking Hubbard's ideas on the international bankers being the key SPs on Earth, and mixing this up with other conspiracy notions, such as:

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion ([STRIKE]Jewish[/STRIKE] Zionist plan for global domination)

If there is such an anti-Semitic tendency within some aspect of Scientology, I think it is NOT based directly on any Hubbard spew.

Note: There is a large body of material delineating the network of power and control that stems from international banking and central bankers. Hubbard STOLE these ideas and called it his own "research". For example, the John Birch Society (Gary Allen: None Dare Call It Conspiracy) had been moving in this direction for a long time. Ralph Epperson wrote in detail about such things (and it is not ALL hogwash):

The Unseen Hand: An Introduction Into the Conspiratorial View of History, 1982

But also, yes, racists and other assorted morons grab onto this information and spin it accordingly.

When you read up on the World Bank and NWO "thing", the Jews are as expendable as any other member of the human race, which is why they are caught up in an engineered Israeli war. "Partition" to create the artificial nation state of Israel was not to ensure peace, but to continue war.

I regularly argued this with my father that while the Big Wigs trying to make sure they run the world may be Jews, that does not condemn an entire race/culture by association. Being Anti-"The Two Big Rs" is not being anti-semitic.

Beyond apathy, how are 260 million Americans guilty for Bill Gates' world domination of the computer industry?

At least with Star Trek you had the first scripted interracial kiss and a crew that didn't smoke on the bridge - boom boom. Roddenberry was actually much more of a visionary than Hubbard. If Roddenberry had invented Scientology we might really have a better world.

Even in its earliest incarnation, Trek was notable for its lack of an "economy". When TNG was launched with Replicators it was made very clear that "trade" was a thing of the past.

 

[Churchill]

About six years ago I was talking with an OTIII who was a long time Scientologist.

He was praising Eustace Mullins.

I told him that Eustace Mullins was in all practice sense a Nazi.

I had a copy of Mullins' book "The Biological Jew."

This is the book where he forwards the Nazi's line that Jews are actually not human, that they are actually a subspecies of parasites that takes the form of humans so they can live off and among humans and causing decay among the hosts species (humans).

Two days later I saw him again. I thought for sure this would convince him.

He said to me that the book is very interesting and that Mullins has a good point.

I was shocked and I asked him if he was crazy.

He said, "I'm not saying that it is every single Jew."

Jump forward into the mid-1980s. OSA or the GO, I forget what it was called at the time, held an event at the home of a wealth local Scientologists in Clearwater.

At the event the GO or OSA spokesman told the crowd that the IRS was a private organization that collected money for a few Jewish families that run the world.

I shouted out "That's a bunch of bullshit" and was KR'ed by several people in the crowd.

I found out about the KRs at my sec check (naturally, nobody sent me a copy)

And about two years before that in the house I was living in with other Scientologists, the 2D of one of the people living there was an OY and he showed me this booklet he wrote about how the Jews were responsible for the decline in civilization.

His 2D was an Israeli girl.

I have other stories, some even more recent, but I will pass on them.

I won't even get into the Holocaust deniers I've met among Scientologists

The ones I talked to said that the psyches were behind Hitler yet at the same time deny the Holocaust even happened.

There is enough cognitive dissonance within Scientology itself for these people to believe anything they are told.

Yes, much had to do with the conspiracy theories about international bankers and RJ 67---but they believe it and it is still prevalent in Scientology.

And I think the connection to Farrakhan will only bring it front and center again.

Heck, that may even been what made him appealing to Scientology in the first place.

I always hope that when I see a Scientologist spokesman on TV that the interviewer will ask him what he thinks about the Jews.

Then there will be hell to pay.

The Anabaptist Jacques

Deborah Lipstadt, author of Denying the Holocaust, has characterized the CCHR's depiction of Psychiatry being responsible for it as "soft-core Holocaust Denial."

Also, I know from fist-hand experience that the G.O. and later OSA, have run numerous operations against Jewish organizations, Rabbis, and Synagogues, because of their opposition to cults.