Scientology vs. Psychiatry

[Intentionally Blank]

I truly admire your ability to maintain a relationship with someone who is in the cult. I can only imagine the conversations between someone who "thinks" they know vs. someone who has the half of the story such as yourself.

You're a brave person to be commended for your ability to grant your other half his/her lifestyle and make it work. My hat is off to you.

You are very kind, thank you. Mr/s Blanky is a good person who really is sincere about doing good in the world. Otherwise I'd be gone, believe me. There are days I just have to bite my tongue and walk away. I remind myself daily s/he is a victim and only hope that when s/he wakes up s/he'll have the strength to deal with the pain of peeling back the layers.

Blanky

 

[programmer_guy]

Schizophrenia Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCbf-pKtkhU

"His mind is filled with voices he can't control."
"He is deeply paranoid believing the gov't has mind rays to control his thoughts."
"Swan was not always a Schizophrenic living on the street."
"In the early 1970s John was a television news reporter."

"I was always so mad at him because I thought he could change".

"I couldn't figure out why he was breaking up the family".

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My comments:
The possibility of this happening is genetic in origin.
Yes, this can break up a family before they know what is really going on.
And I don't believe that SCN auditing can help this.

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Psychiatry is not all bad. But they're not all good, either. In my last lifetime I had a worst-case experience with them. Yes, it was that bad.

Helena

In your what?

In my LAST LIFETIME. As in REINCARNATION. What part of that don't you understand?

Helena

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Prozac ... I hated the side effects from the drug (the biggest one - you have no sex life )

There is a "chemical need" that sex fulfills. That's why we bother with it in the first place. Prozac (and similar) fills that need directly -- so it's not so much that something is missing, it's that you have what you need already.

Given the dismal state of my love life, that might be a good idea.

Helena Handbasket, called that for a reason

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Eventually he was diagnosed as having schizophrenia, lives in a group home, and is on psych drugs to suppress his symptoms. ... I mean, really, what else could anyone do with him?

The cure for schizophrenia is OT 3, NOTs, and especially Excalibur. End of story.

Helena

 

[JustSheila]

The [STRIKE]cure[/STRIKE] triggers for schizophrenia is OT 3, NOTs, and especially Excalibur. End of story.

Helena

FIFY

 

[FascinatedNeverIn]

In my LAST LIFETIME. As in REINCARNATION. What part of that don't you understand?

Helena

Is that to do with the Scientology thing, or have you got that from somewhere else?

From reading on here, it seems most exes who have rejected the Scientology thing usually reject the past lives stuff too.

Your comment stood out and I wanted to figure out if you really thought that, or you were referring to a past life as a period of your life: "I was an air stewardess in a past life", meaning it's so long ago it feels separate.

Thanks for replying.

 

[hummingbird]

In my LAST LIFETIME. As in REINCARNATION. What part of that don't you understand?

Helena

Defensive, much?

 

[MissWog]

The cure for schizophrenia is OT 3, NOTs, and especially Excalibur. End of story.

Helena

With all do respect, I hope you start seeking some professional help and reconsider taking those meds you were talking about a year or two ago. Considering how sad you are I don't see how it can possibly get any worse once the optimal dose is determined. If I was in your shoes I would take comfort in knowing I was trying to work towards a solution rather than muddling through life depressed and a tad paranoid. I wish you all the luck and strength in the world Helena! I mean that deeply! You write from a place of darkness and pain and I wish we could help take that away {{{{{hug}}}}}

 

[Helena Handbasket]

The cure for schizophrenia is OT 3, NOTs, and especially Excalibur. End of story.

Helena

I'm dismayed that so many people laughed at this. I admit it, I was a bit "schizy", as if there were others making demands of me. When I did OT 3, a lot of that went away. When I did Excalibur, it went away completely. And if you look at the materials, that is EXACTLY what they attempt to solve. I believe the "Wall Of Fire" story to be literally true; indeed, I was on Earth at the time and I remember what I was doing.

It's a shame, because this tech could literally empty the schizophrenia bins within a few months -- if it weren't for the fact that you have to do the lower levels FIRST which is a big commitment -- and that so many people ridicule the subject.

I suppose the more you need these levels, the more valuable they are to you. By contrast, I found both Study Tech and FPRD to be worthless. It was the latter that helped give me the final push out of the church.

Helena, never more serious than now

 

[Helena Handbasket]

Is that to do with the Scientology thing, or have you got that from somewhere else?

From reading on here, it seems most exes who have rejected the Scientology thing usually reject the past lives stuff too.

Your comment stood out and I wanted to figure out if you really thought that, or you were referring to a past life as a period of your life: "I was an air stewardess in a past life", meaning it's so long ago it feels separate.

Thanks for replying.

I admit it, I first got my ideas about reincarnation from the C of S. In my very second session, I followed a chain of incidents a little farther back than my auditor intended. I started describing my last death.

But let me be quick to add there are lots of people who literally believe in reincarnation who have never heard of the Church of Scientology. And plenty of sources for me to draw upon, outside the church, for me to further develop my viewpoint.

And lest there be any doubt about what I mean, let me make it quite clear what I've been up to these last few hundred years (dates are approximate):

5 LIFETIMES AGO (1732 - 1787): I was an American farmgirl. I fell in love with a British soldier but ultimately he received his orders to return to England, and he left. I never saw him again, and was heartbroken.

4 LIFETIMES AGO (1787 - 1836): I became a Thai prostitute.

3 LIFETIMES AGO (1836 - 1892): I became an executive for an American railroad -- very rich and powerful.

2 LIFETIMES AGO (1892 - 1926): I reincarnated into the British nobility with lots of money. The sex was fantastic, but I died in childbirth at the age of 34.

1 LIFETIME AGO (1926 - 1953): I became an American black. A white judge said I was insane and committed me to a psychiatric hospital, where I was repeatedly raped and made pregnant. They finally sent me home, where my husband, enraged at my condition, strangled me that night. (Now you know why I don't have much trust in psychiatrists and turned to the C of S when I needed help.)

Helena

 

[Helena Handbasket]

With all do respect, I hope you start seeking some professional help and reconsider taking those meds you were talking about a year or two ago. Considering how sad you are I don't see how it can possibly get any worse once the optimal dose is determined. If I was in your shoes I would take comfort in knowing I was trying to work towards a solution rather than muddling through life depressed and a tad paranoid. I wish you all the luck and strength in the world Helena! I mean that deeply! You write from a place of darkness and pain and I wish we could help take that away {{{{{hug}}}}}

While I shy away from psychiatry and psychiatrists (see previous post) I have to admit you're right -- it's time for a new direction. "A place of darkness and pain" is not a bad description for where I am.

Never one to be afraid to blaze a new trail, I made up a new term for my condition. I call it "status corperdere", meaning a permanent, painful, and incurable broken heart.

I'm seeing a doctor on Tuesday -- not a psychiatrist, but an endocrinologist who said he was concerned about my serontonin levels and started to test me for it. We'll see what happens.

May Astar forgive me!

Helena

 

[Udarnik]

Schizophrenia Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCbf-pKtkhU

"His mind is filled with voices he can't control."
"He is deeply paranoid believing the gov't has mind rays to control his thoughts."
"Swan was not always a Schizophrenic living on the street."
"In the early 1970s John was a television news reporter."

"I was always so mad at him because I thought he could change".

"I couldn't figure out why he was breaking up the family".

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My comments:
The possibility of this happening is genetic in origin.
Yes, this can break up a family before they know what is really going on.
And I don't believe that SCN auditing can help this.

While schizophrenics can be violent (just ask my in-law in the arranged marriage), most mass murderers don't fit the classic schizophrenic definition (relating this to the question in the OP). It's kinda tricky to lump all psych meds and all psych disorders into one in this context.

 

[Helena Handbasket]

With all do respect, I hope you start seeking some professional help and reconsider taking those meds you were talking about a year or two ago. Considering how sad you are I don't see how it can possibly get any worse once the optimal dose is determined. If I was in your shoes I would take comfort in knowing I was trying to work towards a solution rather than muddling through life depressed and a tad paranoid. I wish you all the luck and strength in the world Helena! I mean that deeply! You write from a place of darkness and pain and I wish we could help take that away {{{{{hug}}}}}

While I shy away from psychiatry and psychiatrists (see previous post) I have to admit you're right -- it's time for a new direction. "A place of darkness and pain" is not a bad description for where I am.

Never one to be afraid to blaze a new trail, I made up a new term for my condition. I call it "status corperdere", meaning a permanent, painful, and incurable broken heart.

I'm seeing a doctor on Tuesday -- not a psychiatrist, but an endocrinologist who said he was concerned about my serontonin levels and started to test me for it. We'll see what happens.

May Astar forgive me!

Helena

Well, I saw the doc. Turns out he is extremely cautious, and WOULD NOT give me the medications I want. ***** him. So I'll have to find a new doctor, maybe in Eastern Europe -- they're bound to be more cooperative there.

In the meantime, I'm starting sessions again with an auditor I've used before.

Helena