I am curious -when I was leaving the church I remember there were used to be security or MAA staff almost 24/7 at the Tampa International Airport trying to catch people about to blow from the church. Any time we had upstat award and were taken out to an AMC theater to watch a movie there were disguised security guards all around the movie theater. Do they still have guards in areas like that? I remember they were about to cease taking us out to AMC and instead we were watching movies in thechurch....
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La La Lou Lou
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Why are they so effing crazy!!!!!
I suppose it's fun to play spies and feds when you're 12, but that's really bonkers.
I suppose if I was in and trying to leave I would walk into a police station and ask for their help, explaining how the cult had my passport and wanted to keep me in illegally against my wishes, go in with a cop and pick up the passport and get accompanied to the airport if necessary and be escorted to the departure check in. I might get my embassy involved too, just to make a big deal, oh why not call the international press! I would ensure that the police were informed at the other end too. I might even do it wearing sea org uniform, just to rub it in, promising to send it back to them when I had earned enough to buy some real clothes, if they insisted on getting their uniform I would strip down to my underwear, it's them who would look evil and get all the bad press. They would regret it if they tried that stuff on me. I am not owned or afraid of making them look bad.
Many Clearwater Police moonlight as security for Flag - I would want to make damn sure the police you approach are not bought and paid for by Scientology - there are several videos showing police doing the bidding of Scientology - also in another thread it discusses the number of 911 calls from Flag that go unanswered or are simply dismissed. 
La La Lou Lou
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Many Clearwater Police moonlight as security for Flag - I would want to make damn sure the police you approach are not bought and paid for by Scientology - there are several videos showing police doing the bidding of Scientology - also in another thread it discusses the number of 911 calls from Flag that go unanswered or are simply dismissed.
Then I would start by contacting my embassy, and the TV cameramen.
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
The one who would know about blows issues are
the Clearwater old timer taxi drivers
Over the decades they helped a tremendous amount of people in taking them to the bus station\airport while informing them about the blow drill ... they drive fast and check for CO$ goons in the mirrors...
I know...because I have been helped by a taxi driver to escape +- 1980..and the guy had been really of help to make me avoid the blow drill. He knew lot of stuff he told me on the way to the airport.
But.., unfortunately, my airplane had been late...so....
and fortunately I was defiant, dauntless and resolute...so
I am certain they have pretty much good figures on how many either SO or publics or ITO are presently blowing (weekly\monthy, and figures to compare with the 80's 90's 00'
the Clearwater old timer taxi drivers
Over the decades they helped a tremendous amount of people in taking them to the bus station\airport while informing them about the blow drill ... they drive fast and check for CO$ goons in the mirrors...
I know...because I have been helped by a taxi driver to escape +- 1980..and the guy had been really of help to make me avoid the blow drill. He knew lot of stuff he told me on the way to the airport.
But.., unfortunately, my airplane had been late...so....
and fortunately I was defiant, dauntless and resolute...so
I am certain they have pretty much good figures on how many either SO or publics or ITO are presently blowing (weekly\monthy, and figures to compare with the 80's 90's 00'
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lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Hey Leland,
Interested in an undercover mission to get a few taxi drivers to chat with you in a starbuck café ????
No 10,000$\week pay, no expenses reimbursed, no camera hat, no medal of valor
It's you eternity, your time track, a deadly serious activity and something can be done about it
Interested in an undercover mission to get a few taxi drivers to chat with you in a starbuck café ????
No 10,000$\week pay, no expenses reimbursed, no camera hat, no medal of valor
It's you eternity, your time track, a deadly serious activity and something can be done about it
eldritch cuckoo
brainslugged reptilian
Hey Leland,
Interested in an undercover mission to get a few taxi drivers to chat with you in a starbuck café ????
No 10,000$\week pay, no expenses reimbursed, no camera hat, no medal of valor
It's you eternity, your time track, a deadly serious activity and something can be done about it
I'd pay for that. Starbucks isn't cheap, after all.
But I'd demand that he wears a head cam, to know of my money being well invested...
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_sGCG-L_cThe one who would know about blows issues are
the Clearwater old timer taxi drivers
Over the decades they helped a tremendous amount of people in taking them to the bus station\airport while informing them about the blow drill ... they drive fast and check for CO$ goons in the mirrors...
I know...because I have been helped by a taxi driver to escape +- 1980..and the guy had been really of help to make me avoid the blow drill. He knew lot of stuff he told me on the way to the airport.
But.., unfortunately, my airplane had been late...so....
and fortunately I was defiant, dauntless and resolute...so
I am certain they have pretty much good figures on how many either SO or publics or ITO are presently blowing (weekly\monthy, and figures to compare with the 80's 90's 00'
Leland
Crusader
Hey Leland,
Interested in an undercover mission to get a few taxi drivers to chat with you in a starbuck café ????
No 10,000$\week pay, no expenses reimbursed, no camera hat, no medal of valor
It's you eternity, your time track, a deadly serious activity and something can be done about it
It would be interesting....
If some could be found...and were willing to talk on video about it.
WoW.....that would be a black eye for the Cult.
But how do you know they stop at Star Bucks.....?
When I drove a cab....it was 7-11 coffee for me....
(ok, not always....I do like starbucks...)
On another note.....
Your idea reminds me of something i've never mentioned........
Quite a few hookers operate out of Clearwater too....
Perhaps they could know something also....?
(don't ask me how i know this....)
But not nearly as interesting as Taxi Drivers providing escape from the Cult help!!
Edited: Joking aside...this is a very serious topic....WoW....
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Enthetan
Master of Disaster
I know...because I have been helped by a taxi driver to escape +- 1980..and the guy had been really of help to make me avoid the blow drill. He knew lot of stuff he told me on the way to the airport.
But.., unfortunately, my airplane had been late...so....
and fortunately I was defiant, dauntless and resolute...so
I blew Flag around the same time. I had staff study after lunch, but often didn't go because of post. I blew at the beginning of lunch, and was in the air before anybody realized I was gone. I also hid in the mens room until boarding time, to minimize the chances of being spotted.
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Fascinating thread!
This would be great information for Gibney if he does a PART II, or for Mark Bunker's documentary--or anyone looking for some scary information about a very scary cult.
Particularly, the parts about disguised cult SECURITY GUARDS hiding at the airport 24/7 and/or surveilling a movie theater where staff have been taken like so many mental patients on a field trip from an insane asylum.
If you think about the recurring nightmares that blown SO members have, they typically are about
exactly the two things that would terrify any would-be Scientologist away from joining the cult:
1) Being trapped in the cult and not being able to escape.
2) Escaping the cult and having their zombie goons stalking you (fair game) to kidnap you and take you back.
Really, Scientology is a nightmare.
The only thing that lessens that at times is when a person simply just AGREES or PRETENDS TO AGREE with them. Scientology can be tricked that way pretty easily. LOL
Fascinating thread!
This would be great information for Gibney if he does a PART II, or for Mark Bunker's documentary--or anyone looking for some scary information about a very scary cult.
Particularly, the parts about disguised cult SECURITY GUARDS hiding at the airport 24/7 and/or surveilling a movie theater where staff have been taken like so many mental patients on a field trip from an insane asylum.
If you think about the recurring nightmares that blown SO members have, they typically are about
exactly the two things that would terrify any would-be Scientologist away from joining the cult:
1) Being trapped in the cult and not being able to escape.
2) Escaping the cult and having their zombie goons stalking you (fair game) to kidnap you and take you back.
Really, Scientology is a nightmare.
The only thing that lessens that at times is when a person simply just AGREES or PRETENDS TO AGREE with them. Scientology can be tricked that way pretty easily. LOL
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Recurring nightmare!
It's over 25 years since I left the cherch I dreamt last night of cops with guns pretending to be journalists, lots of disguise going on. It was very scary, I knew it was something to do with escaping but there was someone around with a gun too, and the bad boys were around too, more Mafia than the cult. Twenty five years later!
Don't worry, you're out and you're relatively safe, apart from some random shit life dishes out to random people at random times, but that's just the regular crap we all have to deal with, occasionally.
At least you have a much better chance for success and happiness out here.
"Better Out than In", I always say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxV-0QHxqEg
La La Lou Lou
Crusader
Don't worry, you're out and you're relatively safe, apart from some random shit life dishes out to random people at random times, but that's just the regular crap we all have to deal with, occasionally.
At least you have a much better chance for success and happiness out here.
"Better Out than In", I always say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxV-0QHxqEg
I'm very happy to be out, the nightmare last night came out of the blue, stirred up by some things quite unconnected, it did shock me though that escaping from the cult is there in my head's files ready to used.
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
Yes I know - I noticed with few of your posts - but didn't know you also escaped.
It seems you have been wiser that I and I shall have wait for your company
At that time, Mark Pope would have been your handler on the blow drill. He was not violent though, no physical coercion ''only'' mind and emotionnal 8C pressure...
(like what Marty did with Annie Tidman to make her collapse)
I planned the escape for one month and sent via the post office (still operating at the time) half of my belongings, packed in large boxes, one at the time, to not being spotted on Cleveland. AS you, I had an irregular schedule after lunch that I took opportunity.
My stoopid bad was I left a letter, saying to leave me alone, and being certain I would be in the air when they would discover it.
I took about 10 big boxes at the airport, thus was not possible to hide in the lady's room When I got in the cab, the driver said: Your are escaping girl ???? I said yes...How do you know? he said'' Well, there are many, we get used to it and you did the right thing... Then he gave me a few security tips to avoid the blow drill. He was about in his 50's - and had been so gentle and kind...I was terrified and he made me feel secured. I won't never forget.
If I'd be living around Clearwater now, and retired, I would put a sign on my car saying... S.O. you want to leave, get in this car NOW and you will be helped go back to life.
The only way out is to get in a car or a bus and leave, quietly without sorrow!
* planning an escape is a traumatic event - as you know if they get the idea, you will be lock somewhere or unver 24h watch. No one is prepared to this and no one thought he\she would have signed a billion year contract with a prison mind control camp infested with guards an watchers!
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Northern Shewolf
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Thanks for sharing that, PTSD is a real problem for all Exes, by sharing you expel residue of bad emotive tissue. I learn from post such as yours. Hugs from Shewolf
lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
When and if it happen that I put a foot downthere again, I'll find one or two for a private chat and take opportunity to grab all of what they know and an approximation of how many people they have drove to the ''road to freedom'' over the decades...
Leland
Crusader
I'd be glad to help you.
Your story of escaping...and Enthetan's story of escaping....and the info in this thread.....is amazing...
You are both so brave....and won.
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lotus
stubborn rebel sheep!
You are both so brave....and won.
Not in my case
I was so frightened to discover the RPF and the children abuse, I was too much a rebel and a disobedience case - I knew my time would come to be broken in the RPF ...
I couldn't stand anymore the retard exec constantly yelling like crazy, day after day, hour after hour at the staff of Source magazine, particularly the artists )
(I was a nobody, a pack of trouble they could dispose of without sorrow
)But tose who plan an almost impossible escape from int base......they truly jeopardize their life
and are in real danger - and in a real mess if they fail...This is beyond any imagination. Surreal.How about the Freewinds...this is probably the worst of the worst...impossible to escape if you are not sent on a mission
(A few SO talk about escaping the Freewinds - Valeska Paris and another Karen had intervew - can't recall his name)
Planning an escape from those SO prisons take years...or never happen
* apparently, the Soboda indians have helped many INT base escapees over the years
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